is the only thing better about the ego over the 510 better battery life?

[AttyPops]

Hey Zen.... I'm forming an "eGo Haters Anonymous" group, want in?

Also, I'm not sure I digested this entire post correctly, but at least one user mentioned higher amperage draw/availability from the eGo vs standard 510 batteries. The LR fans love that. So you DO get a little more oomph.

I'm with you, that 3.7, 5.0 v or VV is better. But hey, the eGo type units are nice "turn key" solutions, readily available. I've gotten them for 2 friends/family and they work great for em.

The problem with the mod market is that it's usually a higher-priced buy-in without knowing what you are getting in advance (unless you are lucky enough to know someone and can "try it out" 1st.) Whereas the eGo type units are $18.00 - $25.00 batteries. Kinda like the "ghetto" box mods I use. I spend my $$ on a box mod, but I don't expect everyone to do that.

I'm still waiting for the new battery tech to leave the labs...... we'll see commercial compact 5v soon (within a few years) I hope.

 

[sera]

i am owner of an ego and i love that i can vape all day long. The batteries are a ++++

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

The problem with the mod market is that it's usually a higher-priced buy-in without knowing what you are getting in advance

But* here on ECF, and any other forum like it, with that higher-end market you get a ton of feedback and information on those higher-end units. People literally pick the hardware apart and describe every aspect of it. Anyone with decent reading and comprehension skills can get a good idea about what they're researching if they bother to put in the minimal time. Those who don't want to bother....sure, get an eGo I guess.

I'm still waiting for the new battery tech to leave the labs...... we'll see commercial compact 5v soon (within a few years) I hope.

This is what I'm excited about as well. It's only a matter of time before we have the opportunity to get back to a 'supermini' sized PV with the power of a 'big battery' mod.

 

[Nomoreash]

It's kinda pointless to me debating a Ego and Riva type kits. It's small, comes with 2 attys, carts, charger etc to get you on your way, that's why it's recommended and a much better choice for those making the transition than most of the PVs they come across. I still use mine some when I'm going out and want a small device with good battery life but other mods get the largest percentage of use now. If you have one and are happy with it, have one on the way or are researching to make the transition it's a great choice don't 2nd guess it.

This is the new members forum and for that application it's great. Most of the people here who are saying there are better choices have gone through a progression of PVs and yes...there are better choices, no doubt about that but I wouldn't recommend a Ferarri for someone learning to drive. The debate over it being a true 3.7 device is pointless, IT's NOT...but so what, it works and it works well.

 

[Zen~]

In a couple of years this will all be a moot point.

At the moment, it appears as though battery technology is the hold-up for the hyper performing super mini eCig... I contend that it's only a small part of the picture.

The atty/carto could be improved greatly with new technology... for example, when somebody designs an atty that draws less current while producing more vapor things will change quite dramatically. There's more than one way to produce vapor, and heating a coil of nichrome wire is probably the least efficient way to get the job done. Ultrasonc atomizers may prove to be the future of this... and what that will translate to is vapor production without excessive heat.

When the convergence of atty design and battery technology happens to occur, we will see the hyper mini come onto the market... and mark my words, it will happen.

In the mean time, the eGo is here to stay, as lackluster as it may very well be, and ECF will probably continue to be the best free marketing platform for this device... Joye and the cloners (a GREAT band name, BTW) will continue to read these posts with Glee... (not the TV show... the emotion) and smile all the way to the Bank of China.

Now regarding the forming of the "eGo Haters Anonymous" group... it's too late for me... I'm not in any way anonymous. I don't have any hidden agenda... I simply HATE bandwagons of any kind, and I'm not real big on jumping on board without first knowing where it's heading!

Interesting fact... If you ever do happen to encounter an actual band wagon in your life, and you choose to follow it, the odds are, you're going to follow it right into a circus... I'm not a big fan of Clowns, nor do I like the smell of Elephant dung...

Zens~ Vaping prediction... In less than a year the eGo as we know it will not be the "go to" PV. The Chinese VVs are coming and when they hit, which is probably 6 months out, this will all seem quite silly. Will there be an eGo vv? Probably... if there is, I will rethink my position. but if it has the user throwing away the voltage controller with the battery, I'll probably have the same opinion I have of the current eGo...

To me, throwing away a housing, switch, connector and controller because a really cheap battery or mosfet died inside is silly. That's like throwing away your Television because a fuse blew.

 

[mlinky]

Just think of the eGo as the Apple IIe...that's about where we are with the technology, and although immensely popular, it was widely regarded by real techies as an inferior device. Nonetheless, it got computers on every desktop without making people have to learn (much) programming language.

 

[Zen~]

Just think of the eGo as the Apple IIe...that's about where we are with the technology, and although immensely popular, it was widely regarded by real techies as an inferior device. Nonetheless, it got computers on every desktop without making people have to learn (much) programming language.

I think the VIC20 would have been a more accurate anaology...

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

Just think of the eGo as the Apple IIe...that's about where we are with the technology, and although immensely popular, it was widely regarded by real techies as an inferior device. Nonetheless, it got computers on every desktop without making people have to learn (much) programming language.

I miss 'Oregon Trail' and 'Lemonade Stand'.

 

[cuseguy]

My 2 primary setups are a standard eGo and a standard 510 with mega batteries. The 510mega batts are quite good and last me 3-4 hours. Of course my eGo lasts 6-8 hours even with very heavy vaping. But battery life alone is not the whole story. I am not an expert but for some reason, my vapes on the eGo seem fuller and richer than on my 510 Mega. I have gone through this in my head many times and don't know the reason, but have some simple theories; 1)The eGo cone which covers the atty is more than cosmetic. It captures the heat off the atty and possibly some errant vape and directs it to your mouth enhancing the vape. 2)The eGo battery being larger, allows it to maintain the intended output voltage (3.2v, I think?) for a much longer period of time than the 510 or the 510 mega, keeping the vape better and more consistent. These are not facts but simply my speculations and I have no technical training at all in these areas!

 

[Zen~]

My 2 primary setups are a standard eGo and a standard 510 with mega batteries. The 510mega batts are quite good and last me 3-4 hours. Of course my eGo lasts 6-8 hours even with very heavy vaping. But battery life alone is not the whole story. I am not an expert but for some reason, my vapes on the eGo seem fuller and richer than on my 510 Mega. I have gone through this in my head many times and don't know the reason, but have some simple theories; 1)The eGo cone which covers the atty is more than cosmetic. It captures the heat off the atty and possibly some errant vape and directs it to your mouth enhancing the vape. 2)The eGo battery being larger, allows it to maintain the intended output voltage (3.2v, I think?) for a much longer period of time than the 510 or the 510 mega, keeping the vape better and more consistent. These are not facts but simply my speculations and I have no technical training at all in these areas!

That's an accurate guess on both. Play along if you will, though... How much did you spend on your 510s and eGos, total?

 

[AttyPops]

...snip....
Now regarding the forming of the "eGo Haters Anonymous" group... it's too late for me... I'm not in any way anonymous. I don't have any hidden agenda... I simply HATE bandwagons of any kind, and I'm not real big on jumping on board without first knowing where it's heading!

Interesting fact... If you ever do happen to encounter an actual band wagon in your life, and you choose to follow it, the odds are, you're going to follow it right into a circus... I'm not a big fan of Clowns, nor do I like the smell of Elephant dung...

ROFL

...snip....
Zens~ Vaping prediction... In less than a year the eGo as we know it will not be the "go to" PV. The Chinese VVs are coming and when they hit, which is probably 6 months out, this will all seem quite silly. Will there be an eGo vv? Probably... if there is, I will rethink my position. but if it has the user throwing away the voltage controller with the battery, I'll probably have the same opinion I have of the current eGo...

To me, throwing away a housing, switch, connector and controller because a really cheap battery or mosfet died inside is silly. That's like throwing away your Television because a fuse blew.

Good points. That's why I use 14500's in mods. But, that's not for everyone I guess... Although, I think you are correct, that it COULD be made that way. I think the little PCB and switch and housing are simply considered "throw away" items, along with the battery. They sell more of them that way I guess. 14500's are about around $5.00 USD. lol.

Still, I guess the current eGo power-supply package is very fool-proof (if you will pardon the term) and it makes for an easy turn-key solution with enough amps for an LR (if they only make the PCB robust!). I do agree that it could be made better with replaceable batteries (and I would argue a better PCB/components/Button). But I guess that's where we get into the mods, and most of them sell in the $100 range since they are not mass-produced factory jobs, but one-off stuff.

I miss 'Oregon Trail' and 'Lemonade Stand'.

Wow. Crap, I remember those..... <turns a little more gray as he types> thanks for bringing that up ya trolling basted (jk)

 

[cuseguy]

Zen, don't get me wrong. I totally hear what you're saying. Sure I spent prolly $150 on 510 and eGo stuff. I know I could buy a nice mod for that cash, but just starting out I am still happy with it. I do see a Infinity VV in my near future but I think the 510/eGo/Riva have their place. Form factor/price/availability all are big factors for newb vapers, which I am. It is a nice little PV for around $50. Let's face it, the 510 platform is probably bringing in alot more new vapers than anything before it and that's not a bad thing. The industry grows and gets more powerful for that day when you know who wants to take our vapes away.

 

[cuseguy]

Totally right also.... A Chinese made VV will be in the eGo's position a year from now as the industry leading PV. As all of the new vapers of 2010 mature into seasoned vapes, we will demand more performance than an eGo gives and a midsize form factor VV is it. A VV roughly the the size of an eGo XL will rule later this year or by early next year.

 

[Big Hitter]

I don't know why anyone would get a ego over a riva.
Ego 3.2v
Riva 3.7v looks the same and better button. They charge to 4.2v. Just a much better unit all around IMO.

 

[mlinky]

I miss 'Oregon Trail' and 'Lemonade Stand'.

LOL!!! I am so old, I have the original Adventure on PDP 11 tape

 

[mlinky]

I think the VIC20 would have been a more accurate anaology...

I was cool...I had an Osbourne (as I sit here with my netbook).

 

[mlinky]

I don't know why anyone would get a ego over a riva.
Ego 3.2v
Riva 3.7v looks the same and better button. They charge to 4.2v. Just a much better unit all around IMO.

Actually, they both are about the same. Riva is overstated.

 

[cuseguy]

As said above, specs are misleading. The Riva and eGo are both 3.7v devices in theory. Real world voltage is 3.2 for both with a new, freshly charged battery. I have seen some Rivas with exceptional build quality and some that were junk. Same with eGos, although most of the legally licensed ones through Janty are pretty consistent.

 

[CardinalWinds]

I think I've decided to get the V3.1 from puresmoke with 6v.

A very well constructed, solid, quality device. You won't be disappointed.

 

[AttyPops]

LOL!!! I am so old, I have the original Adventure on PDP 11 tape

I think the Smithsonian is looking for that.........

On Topic:
Yeah, I agree, that vv (or at least higher v) is the future.