In response to the flavor question, most juices (quality) are naturally flavored so can't be harmful for you. And generally its just extracted oils or sometimes alcohol based, either way it sure is better for me than tobacco ask my lungs.
Is the vapour harmful?
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I'm not going to say its safe. Long term effects of inhaling this much PG and VG are not yet known. Long term effects of smoking are known however and are very bad. Even if there are problems that come out in the future, I can't imagine its going to be as bad a cigarettes.
I find this discussion very interesting. I know it'll be mostly anecdotal, but for those of you who have been vaping for awhile, do you find you can in general breathe easier? I have read the sticky about how vaping is inhaled differently than cigarettes, and am curious if those that don't find it easier to breathe have not chnaged how they inhale for the e-cigs.
My over-all Health, including Cardio, has Vastly Improved.
My physician will not go so far as to recommend to her patients that smoke that they should switch to e-Cigarettes, she is a Hard Liner believing that Nothing should be Inhaled. But she does admit that for Me, the results have been Very Good.
The closest thing to anything unhealthy in E-cig vapors is nicotine, which just speeds up your heart rate with no long-term effects.
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'Cause they look neat. People like neat lookin' stuff - ya? IMHO - it's for the marketing. Now, when I was in my B&M shop, I noticed the bright green liquid one of the staff had & asked about it. He told me that he does it so he can remember which flavor is which easily - in his own stockpile - he added that I could make any of my fluids green if I wished. The shop is also walking distance from the university.....
Green would probably get me questioned by the authorities. I have a biker look anyway.
How many tests have been conducted on cake mixes for their "long-term" health impact? None. You throw a bunch of ingredients together that everyone considers safe and you blast it through enough heat to bake a small chicken or to kill any reasonably-sized living thing, and then you eat it. The texture, flavor, smell, density, and mouth-feel of the resulting cake all depend on the complex chemical reactions of the ingredients -- eggs, flour, sodium bicarbonate, salt, sugar, animal and vegetable oils, chocolate, artificial flavorings, artificial colorings, preservatives, gums & gels.
How about flavored vitamin water?
What's the long-term impact of Slurpees?
How many tests have been conducts on people who have consumed non-dairy creamer for decades?
What about those "apple pie" things they sell at McDonalds?
How many tests have been performed measuring the long-term impact of the textured vegetable protein (TVP) consumed by so many vegans and vegetarians?
Look, I'm not knocking any of these things. I'm just saying that all of this focus on coming up with a 100% certified long-term proof of safety for vaping is a crock, plain and simple; we must lose no opportunity to say so.
Vaping ingredients have been used in foods, beverages, cosmetics, and pharmaceutical products for decades. Millions of people have been vaping them for years, and the best thing that the news can come up with is a story about an idiot with a poorly designed, homemade battery that exploded.
When people complain that, "We don't know the long term health impact," they're either (a) falling prey to the pseudo-scientific belief that there's some measure of safety for everything that we do, or (b) they're trying to fuel paranoia among vapers and anti-vapers.
Look, there may be legitimate health questions about vaping, but "we don't know the long term health impact" answers a question that isn't even worth answering. Reject the basic assumption of the question and get on with things.
(And I get tired of the stupid canard that there was a time when people generally considered tobacco to be good for you. O'Henry used the term "coffin nail" to refer to cigarettes in a short story in 1906. John Quincy Adams wrote the preface to an anti-smoking book in which he referred to people being "addicted" to "smoking mania" in 1845. It's been common knowledge for centuries that tobacco is bad for you. So can we drop the pretense that there are these hidden dangers in common, every-day things that "science" has yet to uncover?)
How about flavored vitamin water?
What's the long-term impact of Slurpees?
How many tests have been conducts on people who have consumed non-dairy creamer for decades?
What about those "apple pie" things they sell at McDonalds?
How many tests have been performed measuring the long-term impact of the textured vegetable protein (TVP) consumed by so many vegans and vegetarians?
Look, I'm not knocking any of these things. I'm just saying that all of this focus on coming up with a 100% certified long-term proof of safety for vaping is a crock, plain and simple; we must lose no opportunity to say so.
Vaping ingredients have been used in foods, beverages, cosmetics, and pharmaceutical products for decades. Millions of people have been vaping them for years, and the best thing that the news can come up with is a story about an idiot with a poorly designed, homemade battery that exploded.
When people complain that, "We don't know the long term health impact," they're either (a) falling prey to the pseudo-scientific belief that there's some measure of safety for everything that we do, or (b) they're trying to fuel paranoia among vapers and anti-vapers.
Look, there may be legitimate health questions about vaping, but "we don't know the long term health impact" answers a question that isn't even worth answering. Reject the basic assumption of the question and get on with things.
(And I get tired of the stupid canard that there was a time when people generally considered tobacco to be good for you. O'Henry used the term "coffin nail" to refer to cigarettes in a short story in 1906. John Quincy Adams wrote the preface to an anti-smoking book in which he referred to people being "addicted" to "smoking mania" in 1845. It's been common knowledge for centuries that tobacco is bad for you. So can we drop the pretense that there are these hidden dangers in common, every-day things that "science" has yet to uncover?)
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This seems to be the Prevailing consensus of most people.
I think in many ways it is going to be Much harder for them to Except the coming Changes to the e-Cigarette landscape than those who choose to Ask and Discuss some of the Core Questions.
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