Is there a category for Fighting for E-Cigs?

[Desert Rose]

Not sure where to post this since I'm still kind of new but here goes. I am in a heated debate on a health site about the health hazards or benefits of e-cigs. Being a lover of e-cigs, of course you know what side I'm on. Every time I reply though, I end up writing what looks like a novel to get all my points covered.

My question is: What would be a great yet short come-back to someone who just wants to say 'e-cigs are just as harmful as real cigs' when they don't have anything to back it up with? I back up what I say about e-cigs with facts, links and personal experience, but like I said, it turns into a much too-long post and I want a quick effective reply.

Any suggestions?

 

[jtpjc]

Cigarettes contain 4000+ chemicals, of which about 60 are carcinogenic. E-cigs contain about four to six chemicals, all considered to be safe by the FDA. So, you were saying?

 

[jtpjc]

"You don't know what's in them!"
Well actually, I do. PG and/or VG, nicotine and flavoring. All GRAS (Generally Regarded As Safe). Now tell me again, what's inside those cigarettes of yours?

 

[jtpjc]

"They contain antifreeze!"
No they don't.

 

[jtpjc]

"They can explode!"
Like your cell phone and laptop. Same batteries.

 

[jtpjc]

"They aren't regulated!"
Right. But cigarettes are. Stick to those, way better for you.

 

[jtpjc]

"They will get children hooked!"
Only children with credit cards.

 

[jtpjc]

"They're a gateway to real cigarettes!"
Yes, real cigarettes taste way better and are way cheaper. You would be an idiot not to switch.

 

[jtpjc]

"You're still addicted."
Yes, and loving it. You want another coffee?

 

[jtpjc]

"Nicotine causes cancer!"
No, it doesn't, sorry to disappoint you.

 

[Uncle Willie]

Not sure where to post this since I'm still kind of new but here goes. I am in a heated debate on a health site about the health hazards or benefits of e-cigs. Being a lover of e-cigs, of course you know what side I'm on. Every time I reply though, I end up writing what looks like a novel to get all my points covered.

My question is: What would be a great yet short come-back to someone who just wants to say 'e-cigs are just as harmful as real cigs' when they don't have anything to back it up with? I back up what I say about e-cigs with facts, links and personal experience, but like I said, it turns into a much too-long post and I want a quick effective reply.

Any suggestions?

Generally, these type of on-line debates cannot be won .. it honestly becomes a waste of time if dealing with close minded individuals and thus time is best spent where it can actually make a difference ..

 

[jtpjc]

"When will you quit that thing?"
When you sell your coffee machine.

 

[jtpjc]

Generally, these type of on-line debates cannot be won .. it honestly becomes a waste of time if dealing with close minded individuals and thus time is best spent where it can actually make a difference ..

Blunt minds require a sharp shisel. That's what I am trying to demonstrate here. Besides, I don't need to win, Desert Rose and I have already won. They just don't know that yet.

 

[Uncle Willie]

Blunt minds require a sharp shisel. That's what I am trying to demonstrate here. Besides, I don't need to win, Desert Rose and I have already won. They just don't know that yet.

fo shizzle ..

 

[Desert Rose]

"You're still addicted."
Yes, and loving it. You want another coffee?

Thanks jtpjc, all good ones but this one made me laugh the loudest. And you're right...we have already won

 

[Desert Rose]

Generally, these type of on-line debates cannot be won .. it honestly becomes a waste of time if dealing with close minded individuals and thus time is best spent where it can actually make a difference ..

I know what you mean Uncle Willie and have learned the hard way that you're right, but I get drawn in pretty easily until it eventually dawns on me that it's useless and I go away. Since I can't resist the urge to fight back at least for a few rounds, and am prone to going over-board when my defenses are up, I needed some quick sharp-witted replies and jtpjc helped very well in that department.

I appreciate the replies from you both! Thanks

 

[Uncle Willie]

I know what you mean Uncle Willie and have learned the hard way that you're right, but I get drawn in pretty easily until it eventually dawns on me that it's useless and I go away. Since I can't resist the urge to fight back at least for a few rounds, and am prone to going over-board when my defenses are up, I needed some quick sharp-witted replies and jtpjc helped very well in that department.

I appreciate the replies from you both! Thanks

Most of the individuals that take a counter-productive stance do so in the hope they will get to you somehow .. caving to that agenda by playing into it is what they want .. and it will ruin your fung shui ..

 

[jtpjc]

Praise them until they put themselves six feet under.
"You are absolutely right. Those darned ecigs keep you hooked to the nicodemon! Now they even say that nicotine doesn't cause cancer! You and I know better of course. Why don't you just show the medical studies that prove them wrong! That will teach them!"

 

[MickeyRat]

"You're still addicted."
Yes, and loving it. You want another coffee?

That's a ex-smoker for sure. My usual answer is, "That's not what bothered me about smoking."

 

[Petrodus]

A member posted on another thread ...
Most that want to argue about e-cigs and the juice are
non-smokers...A few may be smokers with no intentions of quitting.

I found this to be true (4 years of experience doing the show-n-tell thing)
Smokers looking to quit or an alternative ... No big deal

Those wishing to argue ... Don't waste your time
If they are really interested in the truth .... They will Google for it