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Is there a Health Canada crackdown?

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It is available but the suppliers have asked me not to advertise the fact. Sorry but just respecting their wishes.

This is because they dont want to lose profit margin, or get new competitors. Imagine the burst of new suppliers if everyone would start making their own juice? Then there's also the fact that a few drops of 100mg nic juice is enough to kill a fully grown person. The worry of having a spill in the mail and legal implications are enough to warrant not wanting to share this information to irresponsible parties.

Personally, i find there's still plenty of room out there for a few new vendors ... but who cares what the customer thinks right? Why make it any easier for us?

Either way ... if i dont get it here in Canada, i'll just get it cheaper over the border. I only wanted to know so that i could possibly buy Canadian is all.
 

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This is because they dont want to lose profit margin, or get new competitors. Imagine the burst of new suppliers if everyone would start making their own juice?

Many supplier have a DIY sections with supplies and bases.

Most suppliers would be happy to supply you with a large/bulk order of DIY stock.

100mg presents a danger in many of our views. It’s not only us, it is against the rules of this very forum to openly promote juice of that strength due to safety concerns.

90% of vapers could probably handle the stuff. 9% are smart enough to know their limits and not try. Of that last 1%, 100% of them do not understand the danger.

It would be a more responsible choice for suppliers to provide 4X the volume in 25mg as they charge for 100mg. The extra shipping and the cost of PG is negligible, there isn’t a purpose for concentrate in the small volumes we use. Even as a supplier ordering a large volume, I do not order at a concentrated strength to save shipping or any other
nonexistent savings. It’s not worth it for the safety of myself, my staff nor anyone who comes in contact with it during shipping alone.

If you feel differently the stuff is out there if you so choose.
 
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Oh no... This one again.. Had a feeling we were going back there :(

Before my old comments get brought up again, my statement is as above.

I simply do not feel it's worth the risk, if someone feels differently they know where to get it.

It wasn't intended for you Rob but rather MattB. You just happened to post at the wrong time :)

I understand and support your position. OTOH It would also be irresponsible not to debunk the myth that has spread wrt 100mg.
 

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I agree that unless you know what you're doing and take ALL necessary precautions including safety gear it can be dangerous. I don't believe suppliers are "trying to make an extra buck" by not openly supplying 100 mg. They are just being responsible IMO. If I were a supplier I would NOT want the responsibility of selling without knowing the capabilities of the person involved. I even go the extra mile of testing, before and after, the nic content. When mixing the area kinda looks like a scene from Dexter LOL.
BTW I wish I had never mentioned the availability of Nic :oops:
 

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I agree, that a vendor does put himself at a terrible circumstance if one of those 100mg jugs ever had a lid open on a postie during delivery. He/she would have an awful amount of ppl knocking on his/her door. CP, postie union, lawmen, lawyers and then there's HC. We here in Canuckland sure wouldn't need any bad PR on vaping at this time or any.
 

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the customs duties are being performed by Canada Post.

That is absolutely 100% false.
Customs duties are preformed by CBSA (in case of CP mail).
Canada Post does not release mail due to backlog. They do not have the power to do that. I would love to see the link to that public warning you speak of.
 

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I don't even think I've ever had a package opened by customs. They tend to trust that declaration form, I guess because the alternative (opening every package) is a logistical nightmare. That said, would they really release all the mail without first checking that form?

For Canada Post to get involved with Customs inspections would be a huge and overwhelming mess especially since they are trying to become profitable. I'm sure that if something is suspect they put it aside for a later inspection but does Customs really have the manpower to handle all that. I would also imagine Ecigs are fairly low on Custom's Officer's list IMHO.
 

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That is absolutely 100% false.
Customs duties are preformed by CBSA (in case of CP mail).
Canada Post does not release mail due to backlog. They do not have the power to do that. I would love to see the link to that public warning you speak of.

I guess you missed the front page article in the Toronto Sun then I think the 15th. You can search for it always the first to say I'm wrong and really try to avoid being so.
 

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I guess you missed the front page article in the Toronto Sun then I think the 15th. You can search for it always the first to say I'm wrong and really try to avoid being so.

While no one can speak for what a journalist does or doesn't understand when writing a story -

Canada Post has no authority over customs or border control. They are simply a Canadian shipping agent. Customs is a Federal body who may take instructions from other federal bodies (such as HC) - but they work as agents of the law as it pertains to our borders, taxes and trade regulations.

Every shipment or set of goods that comes into Canada goes first through customs. Once cleared it's either handed to the person who is going through the border with those goods or its passed to a local shipping agent (Canada Post, FedEx, DHL, UPS, private shippers, corporate shippers, etc). No shipper or individual can clear something through customs on their own.

Not without a change in federal law.

If a journalist claimed otherwise - his report is simply incorrect.
 

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While no one can speak for what a journalist does or doesn't understand when writing a story -

Canada Post has no authority over customs or border control. They are simply a Canadian shipping agent. Customs is a Federal body who may take instructions from other federal bodies (such as HC) - but they work as agents of the law as it pertains to our borders, taxes and trade regulations.

Every shipment or set of goods that comes into Canada goes first through customs. Once cleared it's either handed to the person who is going through the border with those goods or its passed to a local shipping agent (Canada Post, FedEx, DHL, UPS, private shippers, corporate shippers, etc). No shipper or individual can clear something through customs on their own.

Not without a change in federal law.

If a journalist claimed otherwise - his report is simply incorrect.

Pretty much defeats the purpose of me replying.
So yea.... what she said hehe
 
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