Wow. I took a break from ECF for a couple months. I come back and this Diacetyl talk is everywhere. And it's pretty much the same people in every thread nor does it seem to matter what the supplier says, they are still not happy. I think perhaps all of them should just turn to DIY juices so they can watch each ingredient go in. On second thought, they'd probably stand in front of a mirror and argue with themselves still.