Is there any mod available like this?

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I've been thinking of a mod like the one below:



Actually, I did see someone modding a device like this somewhere here on the forum but can't find that post/thread, think it was in the Setup Pics thread.

Is there any such a VV Dual 18650 mod available?
 

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the mod would be too long and heavy with dual 18650 and kick support. there is a sigelei mod similar to this. cant remember the name though

Of course it will be heavy :)

I have Rob's Throathit which is a VV dual 18650 mod and it is heavy with the steel casing but darn I love it so much! I would love to buy another dual 18650 VV mod, just like the one you see in that graphic I put together.

I am guessing the batteries are running in parallel?

I'm not sure about the parallel and series but as far as I think, it will be in series. Just like stacking one battery above the other. One battery goes with positive up and the other goes with negative up. Then a u-shaped iron plate can be used to connect the lower negative and positive of the batteries. The upper positive and negative will be attached to the 510 base thorough a kick or VV/VW circuit.

The base could be like this ....

 

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I wouldn't like the idea of it being in series. I know it is done in a lot of different things besides vaping tools but I have never liked it that much.

What is the advantage of doing in series or parallel? I know about lightbulbs in series or parallel. We use in parallel to give equal voltage to all light bulbs connected in parallel mode. Whereas, in series, the voltage will divide. However, in case of a mod, we just need to power one base/atomizer. I'm just trying to understand what difference does it make connecting in series or parallel in case of eCigs.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
 

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kinda sorta

Inside Altoids VV 18650 Mod - 40d-13421

There are several pictures in the slideshow.

That's a box mod. Here's the one I have ..

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I'm just trying to expand my collection. I have 3 telescopic mech mods and 1 VV Dual but I wish to buy another VV Dual like the one in my graphic :D

Actually, I'm communicating with a manufacturer, hoping they make one for me!
 

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They do have a 18350 gripper out...but not a double 18650, the problem with what you want is a kick is 15mm long, 18650 + kick would be 1880 long, maybe if it was sitting on top of a 18500 possibly

There is a mod that takes a Vamo tube, and with a top and bottom plate make it "shrinked"

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But it's still a stacked 18350 tube

That looks awesome! That's what I'm talking about! Can it be expanded to use dual 18650 or 18500? Well, if the kick is 15mm, we can use 18500s and it will be 18650 overall length :D
 

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To use a Kick you'd need the batteries to be set up in parallel. Too much voltage will fry the kick, so a series type set-up would not be good.

For batteries in a series, double the voltage. I.E. Stacked 3.7v IMR 18650 batteries would be 7.5 volts (Up to 8.4 right off the charger). There are quite a few VV or 5v regulated mods that use a voltage bucking circuit with stacked batteries. I.E. Buzz Pro, Saber.

One dual 18650 mod I know of is the Saber Touch Max but it's not set up with side-by-side cells like your drawing. Since Sir_Lawrence makes those by hand, it's possible you might email him and discuss having a custom design built. The primary purpose of a mod like the Saber Max, is for die hard High Voltage vaping fans.

For a Kicked mod...I'm not seeing much advantage to carrying two 18650 cells. The only benefit would be longer time between battery recharges. Just carry an extra battery (or possibly go with liPo type battery packs), and end up with a safer/lighter/more comfortable to handle mod :) If you did go with a double tube body for a Kicked mod...I'd personally opt for some kind of bottom feeding contraption over a second battery.
 
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To use a Kick you'd need the batteries to be set up in parallel. Too much voltage will fry the kick, so a series type set-up would not be good.

For batteries in a series, double the voltage. I.E. Stacked 3.7v IMR 18650 batteries would be 7.5 volts (Up to 8.4 right off the charger). There are quite a few VV or 5v regulated mods that use a voltage bucking circuit with stacked batteries. I.E. Buzz Pro, Saber.

One dual 18650 mod I know of is the Saber Touch Max but it's not set up with side-by-side cells like your drawing. Since Sir_Lawrence makes those by hand, it's possible you might email him and discuss having a custom design built. The primary purpose of a mod like the Saber Max, is for die hard High Voltage vaping fans.

For a Kicked mod...I'm not seeing much advantage to carrying two 18650 cells. The only benefit would be longer time between battery recharges. Just carry an extra battery (or possibly go with liPo type battery packs), and end up with a safer/lighter/more comfortable to handle mod :) If you did go with a double tube body for a Kicked mod...I'd personally opt for some kind of bottom feeding contraption over a second battery.

Thanks for explaining the series/parallel modes. I understand what you are saying. I believe, parallel would be better. But then will it be a VV device at all? I'm not sure of that.

I did contact these guys (Saber Touch guys, forgot gentleman's name there) on one of their Youtube videos and asked if they can make a mod with tubes side-by-side but got no response :(
I did not care to contact them through their website for the simple reason, a custom mod will cost too much.

"The only benefit would be longer time between battery recharges"

That's exactly what I want :D I hate recharging batteries .. Rob's TH doesn't need a recharge for 4 days and I can go endless vaping lol. I'm a lazy man!
 

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Thanks for explaining the series/parallel modes. I understand what you are saying. I believe, parallel would be better. But then will it be a VV device at all? I'm not sure of that.

I did contact these guys (Saber Touch guys, forgot gentleman's name there) on one of their Youtube videos and asked if they can make a mod with tubes side-by-side but got no response :(
I did not care to contact them through their website for the simple reason, a custom mod will cost too much.

"The only benefit would be longer time between battery recharges"

That's exactly what I want :D I hate recharging batteries .. Rob's TH doesn't need a recharge for 4 days and I can go endless vaping lol. I'm a lazy man!

Yes, it would be possible to put a Kick, or DNA circuit in if you had a 'parallel' battery setup. These use digital pulse width modulation (PWM) to 'boost' 3.7ish volt signals up to 6ish volts.

Mods that use analog 'bucking' circuits do just the opposite. You stack batteries and end up with something in the 6 - 7v range and buck the voltage 'down' to your preferred level. A 5v regulated mod is generally a similar circuit, but instead of using an adjustable 'pot' for VV, it will have a single resistor hard wired in to maintain a steady 5v.

Not so long ago, HV was quite popular because there were few if any batteries on the market that could handle more than 5 amps of current. The answer to this was to use more voltage and higher resistance coils...thus allowing slower current draws from the batteries.

Today, there is some better battery tech out there that will let you go with lower resistance coils and draw more amps...currently however, a sub-ohm 3.7v rig is NOT what you'd want for long battery life between charges.

On contact from Saber Moon...Sir Lawrance did have some things going on (medical/family) and had to close down the mod shop for a spell, but as far as I know he's back at it now...and with updated equipment. Try emailing him again? Last time I emailed him I got a reply within a few hours...ordered a Saber Kicked about a week ago and as far as I know it's on schedule. If you don't get a quick response, your stuff might be going into his spam folder for some accidental reason...try messaging him here?
Sir Lawrance

If you're really into stuff with intense battery life....you might like something that uses LiPo batteries? LiPo cells are really light and can pack alot of energy into a small space.

An example of off the shelf stuff using LiPo:
iTaste MVP V2.0, Long-Lasting 2600 mAh Variable Voltage VV Box Mod - Best Electronic Cigarette | E Cigarette Manufacturer| Innokin

http://shop.nhaler.com/The-Opus-D_c167.htm

http://shop.nhaler.com/The-Opus_c124.htm
 
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Good info, thanks! So with batteries in series, you have to regulate the voltage down and with batteries in parallel, you regulate the voltage up.

The merchant/manufacturer I'm communicating with is actually interested in batteries in series to create a high voltage mod. Oh well, they needed some ideas, I guess, I gave them some :)

Hopefully, they can come up with a dual tube mod soon.

I will contact Sir Lawrence and get a rough price quote. If it is any costlier than $150, I'll perhaps chicken out :( Can't afford a costly mod. In fact, with all of the vapemail coming, I'm a little low on budget for something I do not need instantly. Maybe it won't hurt to get a price quote. Who knows, Mod Gods shower their blessings on me :D

By the way, there's one 6000 MAH box mod .. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/366025-dna20-wood-metal-box-5.html

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Looks badass! But there's no update from the modder since February 2013. So no idea about the development. Its an awesome looking mod though... 6000 MAH .. Wow!!
 
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