Is this Glycerin safe to make juice with?
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Well, I think the vote stands at 3 yes, 3 no, 6 maybe, and some ifs. I would very confidently find a use for that unrelated to vaping. After doing your homework you can give it a go with items that you are sure of.
I am not a chemist by trade, but the way I understand it, glycerin (or glycerine, or glycerol) is the same molecule, whether it's derived from animals, or vegetables, or produced synthetically in a laboratory. The important bit is whether or not it says "USP" on the label, which means the same thing as "pharmaceutical grade" and indicates that it contains less than what have been deemed certain acceptable levels of particular contaminants (on the order of a few tenths of a percent, and most of which is likely water) by the United States Pharmacopeia. If it says "Glycerin, USP" on the label (which, in this case, it does) and if it's not a counterfeit label (which you will have to decide for yourself), then it should be the same kind and quality of "vegetable glycerin" that the rest of us are using on a daily basis.
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Tell me the brand, and I'll find out if it's safe.
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I found a thread on another website that said the PharmaSave brand is made up of 90% vegetable glycerin, and the remaining 9% is from another source (for a total of 99% pure glycerin). Personally, I would use it. As someone else posted, the glycerol molecule is the same, no matter where it came from.
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I found a thread on another website that said the PharmaSave brand is made up of 90% vegetable glycerin, and the remaining 9% is from another source (for a total of 99% pure glycerin). Personally, I would use it. As someone else posted, the glycerol molecule is the same, no matter where it came from.
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I may be wrong on this, but once vegetable glycerin is going to put on the shelf at a drug store it has to gain the USP mark and it drops the vegetable part and is just called glycerin. I'm almost positive it's the same USP glycerin in our liquids.
I agree with this ^^^. I would vape that because it says 'USP' on it. If it is not actually USP grade, it is illegally marked such.
Here is a good post from Rolygate on the subject: PG - VG - PEG. Note the part about 'A note on MSDS warnings' and then just under that is section 2 on VG.
I would be leary of it since it said to keep away from mucous membranes... and also the other glycerin ( nitro) is one to avoid too....
You do know the msds for our VG has even worse warnings right?
It is what it is.
Its amusing how safety conscious everyone here is but very few actually check out the chemicals we use for themselves, and just assumes they are harmless.
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Funny thread. Why everybody so much inclined to use vegetable glycerine?
I remember a few threads here (a few month ago) which recommended to use only synthetic USP glycerin (unfortunately not available in retail) as the most clean one. Vegetable glycerin could be contaminated by toxic compounds (depending on vegetable it is made from).
Completely misleading thread.
My take: you can use any glycerin if it is labelled as USP. Period.
I remember a few threads here (a few month ago) which recommended to use only synthetic USP glycerin (unfortunately not available in retail) as the most clean one. Vegetable glycerin could be contaminated by toxic compounds (depending on vegetable it is made from).
Completely misleading thread.
My take: you can use any glycerin if it is labelled as USP. Period.
One of the cleanest USP glycerin is produced by Dow and it is synthetic one.
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Seriously... If you've studied chemistry, you know that a molecule by any particular name isn't different from another molecule of that same name, even if it was derived from a different source. Each part of the molecule's name describes a characteristic of the molecule. You can actually draw out a molecule and know what it looks like, just by looking at the name. I used to do it all the time with various household products, just for fun, when I was studying chemistry in college. If something were different about it, even slight, it couldn't be called the same thing. Its prefix and/or suffix would change. Therefore, glycerol (glycerin) is glycerol is glycerol... Whether or not it came from an animal, vegetable, or synthetic source, it's still the exact same molecule and will react with your body in the same way. So as long as the lable says USP, indicating the product has met the purity standard of the United States Pharmacopeia, it's just glycerin. For example, you're not going to get any traces of animal oils if it comes from an animal source. I hope this info eases some minds. Just find the USP stamp of approval and you're good to vape.
If something were different about it, even slight, it couldn't be called the same thing. Its prefix and/or suffix would change. Therefore, glycerol (glycerin) is glycerol is glycerol... Whether or not it came from an animal, vegetable, or synthetic source, it's still the exact same molecule and will react with your body in the same way. So as long as the lable says USP, indicating the product has met the purity standard of the United States Pharmacopeia, it's just glycerin. For example, you're not going to get any traces of animal oils if it comes from an animal source. I hope this info eases some minds. Just find the USP stamp of approval and you're good to vape.- Status
