Israeli toddler drinks liquid nicotine and perished.

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the_vape_nerd

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Here we go...one kid...if we can save just ONE KID...from dying then all these regulations are worth it, aren't they? Are you for dead kids?

That's what our media will say, what the fda will say..and so on.

Kids die every year from eating comet cleanser, drinking bleach, riding bicycles. Nicotine is a poision but we've all got a ton of poision in our house already.
 

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CDC - Poisoning Factsheet - Home and Recreational Safety - Injury Center

In 2009, 31,758 (76 percent) of the 41,592 poisoning deaths in the United States were unintentional, ...

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Between 2004 and 2005, an estimated 71,000 children (<18 years of age) were seen in EDs each year because of medication poisonings (excluding abuse and recreational drug use). Over 80 percent were because an unsupervised child found and consumed medications.

Among children, ED [emergency department] visits for medication poisonings (excluding misuse or abuse) are twice as common as poisonings from other household products (such as cleaning solutions and personal care products).
 
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I posted the following comment to the article:

"Every child’s death saddens us, especially when it should have been preventable. And I applaud the sentiments and cautions expressed by the author.

But the headline is outrageous! An **Electronic cigarette** did not cause the child’s death. Inattentive and careless adults caused the child’s death. Whoever wrote that headline has needlessly vilified a new technology that is saving the health and very life of millions around the world.

Whoever wrote that headline should be ashamed."
 

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If the child did drink e-liquid (and not something else altogether), I am puzzled as to why she did not regurgitate the liquid. The only child poisoning fatality from nicotine in the US over the past 47 years was a child who had partly digested cigarettes in his stomach and Valium in his system. We can speculate that the Valium overcame the body's natural defense mechanism.
 

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I'm not sure what article you are reading. The one that is linked in the OP states, "According to local reports, a two-year-old toddler managed to suck out and ingest liquid nicotine, the kind found in electronic cigarettes made to help people bust the habit of ingested carcinogenic tobacco into their lungs." And the headline reads, "Electronic Cigarette Kills Toddler in Israel"
Here is another story:
http://www.bhol.co.il/Article_EN.aspx?id=55053
and another
http://www.timesofisrael.com/police-investigating-toddler-death-from-nicotine-overdose/
 
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"According to family members she found a bottle filled with Nicotine - used as a component of compound poured into the electronic cigarette. Naomi opened the vial and drank from it."

However, I have a problem with that too.. The stuff burns your tongue (feel, not actual) ... And I'm use to it.. and I almost automatically spit when I get some in my mouth... 2.5 yo toddlers do have a sense of taste and should have been crying as the 1st few drops hit the mouth..
 

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Yes, I see it now, must have been blind the first time I read it. The author of the piece just went on and on about cigarette butts. However, the article doesn't go into enough detail about the incident. We don't know if the toddler was home when it happened or with someone else.

One thing I know for sure as I have raised 3 children of my own is that you can't ever leave them unsupervised when they are younger than 12 years old, especially a 2 1/2 year toddler.

Are ecigs that commonly used in Israel? Can you freely buy them from local vendors? I've gotten to the point I don't believe everything I hear in the news any more. I need more data to accept she died from ingesting a bottle of nicotine left open for her to reach.
 

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Honestly child proof caps should be on every bottle of ejuice sold. I got some juice from a new vendor to me and was surprised to see no child proof caps on their bottle. Not going to call attention to them in this post. They all know who they are and will not order from them again because of it. Not just what happened in this thread, but I have grand kids myself and this sort of thing would devastate me to no end.
 

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At some point the toddler, an only child, went to her grandfather’s room and drank from a small bottle of liquid nicotine that he used to refill his electronic cigarette. This is absolutely horrible. I couldn't imagine losing a child. This is definitely in some way negligent and a horrible accident. I do have to wonder where this bottle was? Must have been on a night stand or something. I surmise a 2 1/2 year old child doesn't have that high of a reach.
 

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Honestly child proof caps should be on every bottle of ejuice sold. I got some juice from a new vendor to me and was surprised to see no child proof caps on their bottle. Not going to call attention to them in this post. They all know who they are and will not order from them again because of it. Not just what happened in this thread, but I have grand kids myself and this sort of thing would devastate me to no end.

It's not that simple, nice. It's been discussed here many, many times before. Please bear in mind that many older or motor impaired vapers (who don't have any children or pets in their homes) have trouble opening childproof caps. They always request to have at least an option to have regular twist-on caps on their bottles.

Besides, as a mother of two, I can tell you with certainty that you can't childproof the world--toddlers and young children need constant adult supervision as almost anything and everything in their surroundings can pose a danger to them--they put everything in their mouths, they fall down the stairs, they run with scissors, they chew on electrical cords, they fall out of their cribs and playpens... They can't be left out of sight even for a minute! They just can't!

The rest is just a matter of plain common sense. If you have poisons of any kind in your house, they have to be stored safely and out of reach of toddlers and pets. A box in a cupboad, on an upper shelf, preferably, is always a good idea. Even better if it has a safety lock.
 

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Hi guys, I live in Israel and have read about this on the local news. From what I understand the baby did drink a bottle of e-liquid. Let me clarify something though, the e-liquids you can buy here in local convenience stores are from an unknown source and look very shady and most likely don't have a child proof cap. It was negligence on the parents part to leave it lying around. It is a very sad story. I read the comments on the news page and the usual comments popped up, "E-cigarettes are worse than real cigarettes" "They should be banned" "I quit cold turkey so should everyone else". Also the author of the article pointed out that the FDA had found ethylene glycol in e-liquid as well as nicotine and other poisonous chemicals. So as someone else mentioned here, the e-cigarette didn't kill the baby but parental negligence did.
 
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