Issues with the positive contact?

[BigCloudz]

Hey guys. This same problem happened to me with my first Reo, right about the same time. I have had this Grand for about 2 weeks, and it seems like the positive contact loses it's strength or something. When I push down the fire button, I am getting misfires like crazy. I then have to pull the battery out, push the fire button and then reach up and kind of pull/bend/flex down the positive contact. I put the battery back in and it fires good for a bit, then have to repeat soon after.

Does anyone else have this issue? The contact looks clean, so not sure what causes this. I thought it was just a weird coincidence since the exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks in with my first Grand.

TIA

Cloudz

 

[FACE MEAT]

Have you filed and noaloxed the firing pin?

 

[BigCloudz]

Have you filed and noaloxed the firing pin?

I haven not.. The delrin?? Or the actual long skinny piece of metal that makes the connection?

 

[Filthy-Beast]

From what I've read in other posts it sounds like you may be pressing to hard and deforming the firing pin over time.

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[FACE MEAT]

The flat metal piece that makes contact with the positive terminal of the battery.

File it with a nail file. Don't be shy about it, give it a good bit of pressure. After you've filed, put a dab of Noalox on the tip.

Over time, the Noalox that's applied to the firing pin by Rob at the factory wears off. This allows arcing to occur between the firing pin and the positive terminal of the battery. This will oxidize the firing pin and cause misfires. If you take the door off and press the fire button, you'll likely see the arcing occur.

Filing the firing pin removes the oxidation. Noalox delays its return.

 

[Raynman]

Or if you have bought a 4 oz bottle of Noalox I suggest putting a small dab on Noalox on the positive contact on the battery itself. Also are you using flat top batteries? The Reo was designed around AW 18650 button top batteries. It doesn't take a lot of pressure to fire the Reo ....Don't be a button masher.

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Can you give us more information?
What battery are you using?
What is the resistance of your coil?
A big concern here is the positive contact....there shouldn't ever be a reason to bend it. I'm almost wondering if you aren't mashing the button.
Keep us posted.

 

[MamaTried]

Or if you have bought a 4 oz bottle of Noalox I suggest putting a small dab on Noalox on the positive contact on the battery itself. Also are you using flat top batteries? The Reo was designed around AW 18650 button top batteries. It doesn't take a lot of pressure to fire the Reo ....Don't be a button masher.

Can you give us more information?
What battery are you using?
What is the resistance of your coil?
A big concern here is the positive contact....there shouldn't ever be a reason to bend it. I'm almost wondering if you aren't mashing the button.
Keep us posted.

The inaugural Button Mashers Anonymous meeting will be announced shortly...


that's just my way of saying that possible button-mashing was my first thought since i have been guilty of that...

 

[BigCloudz]

Nope, fully aware of the 'button mashing', and have been very careful about that.

I am using AW IMR 18650 button tops.

I guess ill pull the + contact out, file it, throw on some noalax and see how it does.


Just to be clear, I am just filing the piece that almost comes to a point (that's essentially bent downwards towards the battery), right? Do not see any reason to do the whole thing.

Thanks guys


edit: Also, I bought myself a little ohm reader but am a bit skeptical on it. I have a 5 wrap of 28g around a 1/32 micro, and it's reading .74. My guess would have been closer to .5, but idk, maybe my MM readings were way off before I bought this thing..

 

[FACE MEAT]

Just to be clear, I am just filing the piece that almost comes to a point (that's essentially bent downwards towards the battery), right?

Yep.

There's not really any reason to take it apart. I just remove the battery and depress the button. The firing pin will poke out the little hole.

 

[BigCloudz]

Yep.

There's not really any reason to take it apart. I just remove the battery and depress the button. The firing pin will poke out the little hole.

ok, ill give it a whirl.


The noalax seemed to help for a bit, but seems to be back to a half-... connection/fire.

Hopefully the filing helps.

 

[nerak]

ok, ill give it a whirl.


The noalax seemed to help for a bit, but seems to be back to a half-... connection/fire.

Hopefully the filing helps.

While running coils under 1 ohm I noticed the need for more frequent filing and noalox. With higher ohm coils the need is not present for longer periods of time.

While you state that you are not mashing the button, it is common to push harder if it is not firing. I know, I do it too. It is a conscious decision to keep from pushing too hard on the button. I have used only REO's for almost 3 years. So I do have some experience to back up my statements.

 

[redeyedancer]

Sounds like you have a oxidized contact . I dont recommend bending the contact a good cleaning is all that is needed . As Karen mentioned once you go below one ohm you will need to clean the contact more frequently . The new contacts should solve all these problems for the sub ohm vapers

 

[BigCloudz]

Awesome, thank you very much!


FWIW, I was hardly pulling the contact down, not to mention I am 99% sure it flexes right back within a minute or two, hence the resason for me needing to do it so often lol.

Gonna get to filing and adding some noalax. Appreciate the help

 

[pdib]

I feel compelled to add, in the face of all these "button mashing admonitions": when it comes to sparking, a hesitant, fluttery button push is just asking for it. Don't mash it, fine; but for god's sake, man! . . . . . . push it like you mean business.

 

[BigCloudz]

That did it! Firing like new again. Great to know, I was worried for a sec haha

Thanks, Rob and the crew!