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DaBrat

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Definitely get some nic. If it helps to know, the nic from the ecig is not absorbed as readily as the nic from regular cigs so you will still be fighting the addiction. This is on reason some get pacifier syndrome when first starting, trying to build levels up to that of analogs. That also means that there isn't the spike then sudden drop that makes you grab one again and again. I found out that starting at a higher level 18-24, allowed me to gradually cut back to what was more acceptable to me. Back to 24 after two weeks on analogs due to bad planning and absolutely no craving for an analog! Best of luck to you!
 
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I found that during rough moments I moved from 24mg to 36mg juice. (I was a pack to two pack a day Marl light smoker) In the morning with my coffee I went with a 36mg mint (from mist-stix on closeout) and it is a shame they no longer carry it. I find that in my toughest times I need a different flavor with a better kick. This also makes for a different habit. Instead of grabbing for the same old standard you make an effort to focus on something different. I do admit that I still smoke cigarettes, but I buy a pack...go to the bar...and finish them whenever. It's not like it used to be....where i felt like i was gonna kill someone if i didn't have one. I've also found that with cigarettes...out of site out of mind is more my thing. If I make it more of a pain to grab one or think about one I smoke them less whereas before I would just smoke to smoke.

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First reaction:
Zero nicotine?! Cartridges of factory flavor?! I coulda never quit with that. :p

Second reaction:
Three points.
1) You might need one or all three of the following for your ecig satisfaction: higher nicotine, better tasting juice, higher voltage vaporizer. I needed all three to successfully stop craving cigarettes. (Although my brain still didn't like leaving behind the other components of tobacco...see #2).

1a) Look up what people recommend as the better juices (try housemade ones rather than the imported Dekang stuff your carts came with). Buy juice and refill your cartridges instead of buying carts; it's an awful lot more economical and better tasting. Taste, throat hit and vapor make a huge difference in satisfying the desire for smokes.
1b) You need some nicotine to make the switch first. You can always taper off later. One way to do it: Try a low nicotine version of a flavor, and if you like it, buy the high nicotine as well, and trying mixing the two until you find satisfaction at the right level.
1c) Then consider trying 5 volt models like the Prodigy, the Xhaler, the GLV, etc. or 6 volt models like the Chuck, the Super-Six, the Adaptever, the Xhaler again, etc.


2) Nicotine is not the only psychoactive substance in tobacco. There are alkaloids and mild MAOIs that some people really miss when they switch to ecigs. (Others don't have a problem. It seems to be an issue of individual brain chemistry.)
This thread, while dang near epic in length, is one meeting of the minds on this issue, and on some tobacco alkaloid extraction concepts.
There are others in the Nicotine subforum you might find interesting to browse.

2a) If this is the case for you -- nicotine is not enough -- try Swedish snus or dissolvables or snuff. Check out the "Other Alternatives to Smoking" forum. People go to these not just because they're different in taste/usage than ecigs, but specifically because they have the alkaloids and "X-factors" we're missing in ecigs/pure nicotine. They're still a heck of a lot safer than inhaling all that burned tobacco.


3) You sound like I did for the first couple weeks of vaping in terms of satisfaction (and later in terms of missing the alkaloids' psychoactive properties). Something wasn't clicking. You have to be open to adapting your tactics, though, because all you know right now is that what you've been doing doesn't work.
My personal formula took research and a few trials but I found it: 12mg instead of 6mg, the Xhaler at 5 volts, Tasty Vapor part-VG (more vapor!) juices, and KR808d-1 cartomizers alternated with 510 atomizers.

Every person on this forum who has quit successfully can tell you their "formula" too. It took some of us longer than others. But it's worth the effort to find your individual solution.
 
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We must have missed something. You can't quit analogs and switch to no nic ecigs. This just won't work. Your body is telling you that it needs nicotine and you are craving cigarettes which has nicotine vs. using no nic ecigs. Try using ecigs with nicotine and use an amount that will stop your craving for ciagettes. Sometimes it is a gradual process where you start vaping and just cut down on cigarettes. As time goes by you will eventally quit craving cigarettes. Even after 9 months I occasionally think about smoking a cigarette but then I remembered how nasty they had become. I actually prefer ecigs to cigarettes now.
 

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In addition to all the really accurate details others have listed concerning the nic and chemical part of switching from analogs to PV's, there is the psychological one of sitting in the belief that you are GIVING UP something that has been "your friend" for years.
Once I let go of this and decided "my friend" was just using my body and head and wallet for it's own gain, I found I could embrace the possibility that I enjoyed the process and not the icky stuff.
Now I have gifted myself the best of all worlds...I get to enjoy the process and as a bonus, lots of different flavors including menthol which I really like a lot and let go of years ago when I switched from Kools to Virginia Slims and then to American Spirit Ultralights in an attempt to eliminate some of the bad chemicals.
Stay present to your courage and determination to create a different way of being yourself in the world, one that is much healthier for you and much more pleasant for those around you. Be patient...it does take time...I didn't quit all analogs instantly...and some did.
Vape On! It gets better and better!
 

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I think you're right 'zero (none) cartridge' I was thinking he had a kit that had high, med, low, zero cartridges and then got some juice... but you're right. My suggestions still applies though ;-)

Wow!, Thanks all for the replies, Kent you're right I got the kit, with all the different cartridges, and I'm using the empty cart, & dripping the atty. with "slow cured" (18mg nicotine I believe), forgot who I got it from? it was 10 assorted flavors for $5 I think? "Vanilla" was intersting but no nico hit! tried the "Kamel" too harsh. The flavor isn't too bad with the "slow cured", and I can tell there's nicotine there, strong drags make me cough,,,lol, but I can't seem to make the transition.
 

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Wow!, Thanks all for the replies, Kent you're right I got the kit, with all the different cartridges, and I'm using the empty cart, & dripping the atty. with "slow cured" (18mg nicotine I believe), forgot who I got it from? it was 10 assorted flavors for $5 I think? "Vanilla" was intersting but no nico hit! tried the "Kamel" too harsh. The flavor isn't too bad with the "slow cured", and I can tell there's nicotine there, strong drags make me cough,,,lol, but I can't seem to make the transition.
Try going to 26mg of nic.
 

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Okay, I looked in my saved mail folder, and it was besteciggy.com that I got the 10 juice sampler ($10) from, all the flavors I got, including the fruit flavors are 18mg. The nicotine seems strong enough, because my Merit ultralites are only 6mg of tar, & 6mg of nicotine (I don't know how that relates to the 18mg juice?) it's just the flavor I can't get used to.
 

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You definately need to order some sample packs from different vendors...Try out different flavorings...Sometimes you will love something you wouldnt even think of. I hate some of the flavors that i thought i would love.

Dont beat yourself up about not quitting..just give it another go, with some different juice.

Good luck to you..wishing you all the best. Lots of information here about different eliquid. And, there's plenty of people here to help you.
 

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Okay, I looked in my saved mail folder, and it was besteciggy.com that I got the 10 juice sampler ($10) from, all the flavors I got, including the fruit flavors are 18mg. The nicotine seems strong enough, because my Merit ultralites are only 6mg of tar, & 6mg of nicotine (I don't know how that relates to the 18mg juice?) it's just the flavor I can't get used to.

Ah yes... besteciggy, not stricklyejuice. I get the two mixed up - both had 'sample sales' around the same time. In fact, Hellen... I meant besteciggy ;-)

The one flavor that I liked from there was their 'extra smokey'. I ordered more of that. Nice by itself but also good for adding to a tobacco flavor to cut sweetness or give a bit of a boost in... well, smokiness. The smokey menthol wasn't bad. Didn't really care for much else there, though.

Haven't read through the other posts yet but you really can't go by what your cigarettes are rated vs. ejuice. I was a 3 pack/day smoker of menthol lights that I made myself and before that Salems and other menthols - newports, kools. And some of those were ultralights. I max out at 24mg and usually vape now around 12 but was at 18 pretty steady for the first few months and it did it for me. Hopefully you'll find the right combination of nic level and flavors - but start getting more samplers.

Highly suggest Nhalers samplers and you should get the 24mg and the 12mg and perhaps even blend them together, but it sounds like you need higher nic. What I was able to do was to vape at 12-18mg and then when I really needed a hit - just top off a cartridge with some 24mg. That way I wasn't vaping it constantly (which would tend to reinforce the need for more) but only when needed. Only within the last month have I been able to put the mod down - in the same manner I smoked, rather than have at it constantly, but that will take a while.
 
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