"It makes me so cross that I may very well give up giving up"

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Shirtbloke

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Alexander Chancellor, former editor of the Spectator and current editor of the Oldie has a good article in favour of vaping.
The final paragraph.......

There is not even now any consensus about the effects of ‘passive smoking’; yet untested fears that e-cigarette vapour could contain some pollutants have already led the WHO to demand a ban on ‘vaping’ indoors. Such a ban, it says, should remain in force ‘until exhaled vapour is proven to be not harmful to bystanders and reasonable evidence exists that smoke-free policy enforcement is not undermined’. You would think that the WHO had enough real health problems to deal with without needing to protect the world against imaginary dangers that may not even exist. And in this case, by banning ‘vaping’ indoors, it would also undermine the efforts of millions of people to give up smoking with the help of e-cigarettes. It makes me so cross that I may very well give up giving up.

Read the full article.....
The war on e-cigarettes is enough to make me give up giving up » The Spectator
 

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He points out, albeit obliquely, an important truth: the anti-vaping campaign being waged by WHO and its cohorts has its basis not in any concern for improving public health, but in imposing a certain group's vision of proper social decorum. People who enjoy inhaled nicotine must be made lepers and pariahs. If they're improving their own health in the process of doing so, while posing no material threat to anyone around them, that doesn't matter. This is about preventing people from engaging in an activity simply because other people find it aesthetically distasteful and don't want to look at it.
 

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From my own personal observations, I now see kids (teenagers 15-17 mostly) using eCigs, eHookahs, etc most, if not all, with 0 nic in them. These kids want to look cool by smoking so I actually feel this is a good thing! They want to appear to be "smoking" for the sheer coolness factor but they are picking up something that is not addictive at all. Isn't it better they pick up a 0mg eCig than an unfiltered Camel?
No one is going to stop kids from doing what they want to do. Did anyone stop you when you were a kid? People may have tried (Parents, teachers, etc) but in the end if you wanted to do something chances are you did it regardless and you felt cool and your friends thought you were cool and everyone was cool!
 

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From my own personal observations, I now see kids (teenagers 15-17 mostly) using eCigs, eHookahs, etc most, if not all, with 0 nic in them. These kids want to look cool by smoking so I actually feel this is a good thing! They want to appear to be "smoking" for the sheer coolness factor but they are picking up something that is not addictive at all. Isn't it better they pick up a 0mg eCig than an unfiltered Camel?
No one is going to stop kids from doing what they want to do. Did anyone stop you when you were a kid? People may have tried (Parents, teachers, etc) but in the end if you wanted to do something chances are you did it regardless and you felt cool and your friends thought you were cool and everyone was cool!

My older daughter (who's nearly 16) says she has about half a dozen friends who vape, but she doesn't know a single person who smokes cigarettes. This seems to me like something that should be celebrated, not made into a moral panic.

It's also ironic that high school kids appear to be so much smarter and more pragmatic than the elected officials and public health authorities who are trying so hard to save them from themselves.
 
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