It seems like it's all the same!!!
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I don't know much about them but I heard the Diva and Omni atomizers and carts are penstyles....but the atomizers are supposed to be better than generic ones. Hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong....don't want to provide incorrect information.
If you go to the EU site, there is an English flag to click on at the top of the page, along with a currency converter. It still comes up with some foreign language so if you really need it:
Google Translate#
Hope that helped.
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They had a 20 or 30% (can't remember which) discount sale a couple of weeks ago. Too bad you didn't catch it then 
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I'm betting all the liquid from Puresmoker, Janty, and Litecig comes from here (centraltrade): All Liquid for Electronic Cigarette Electronic Cigarette Portal Liquid
In case that helps.
In case that helps.
My bet is that they come from the supplier of Central trade.
Even Central trade is trading but i guess they buy in monster quantity from the real manufacturers so their price is the same as a usual supplier would get from manufacturers.
You could be right. Everything is just so cheap there I'm not sure how much better you could do going to the manufacturer.
I'm saying centraltrade based on the commonality of products available there versus the websites. Puresmoker offers a lot of DSE models, Litecig has DSE's and M401s, both common to centraltrade, and both plus Janty carry liquid flavors and strengths common to centraltrade too. We already know Janty makes its own cigs.
It's possible all the hardware comes directly from Shenzhen though, as they seem to be the manufacturer of all the DSE, CT-M, plus the RN products which centraltrade actually doesn't seem to offer. I'm not sure what manufacturer the liquid is coming from though (yet).
If/when this all gets figured out we should compile it into a nice table for easy reference.
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I thought there was consensus on that... must've misread...
Confused.
Farsee Technology (Electronic Cigarette¦òCigar¦òMini E-cig¦òManufacturer)
Shenzhen First Union Technology Co Ltd (Shenzhen First Union Technology Co.,Ltd)
Shenzhen Sunny Industry Co., Ltd. (Shenzhen Sunny Industry Co., Ltd)
All seem to claim to make all the DSE and RN models. Except the last one which seems to only make 3 products, the RN4072 among them, which the other two companies also claim to make. Farsee is also located in Shenzhen China, like the other two.
Is this how it works in China? Multiple companies make the same products using the same model numbers? Is one of these the "parent" company and the others subsidiaries?
...sucks thumb in corner.
Farsee Technology (Electronic Cigarette¦òCigar¦òMini E-cig¦òManufacturer)
Shenzhen First Union Technology Co Ltd (Shenzhen First Union Technology Co.,Ltd)
Shenzhen Sunny Industry Co., Ltd. (Shenzhen Sunny Industry Co., Ltd)
All seem to claim to make all the DSE and RN models. Except the last one which seems to only make 3 products, the RN4072 among them, which the other two companies also claim to make. Farsee is also located in Shenzhen China, like the other two.
Is this how it works in China? Multiple companies make the same products using the same model numbers? Is one of these the "parent" company and the others subsidiaries?
...sucks thumb in corner.
This is the same bottle steve's pure liquid comes in
electronic cigarette,cartridge liquid refills, made in Shenzhen First Union Co
This looks like the same bottle steves CASH liquid comes in
cartridge liquid
This is the same package Steves DSE901 comes in
DSE901 black e cigarette
So I am going to say its a safe bet that Steve gets his stuff from Shenzhen China (hope I didnt give anything away Steve? I was wondering where this stuff comes from thats how i found it)
electronic cigarette,cartridge liquid refills, made in Shenzhen First Union Co
This looks like the same bottle steves CASH liquid comes in
cartridge liquid
This is the same package Steves DSE901 comes in
DSE901 black e cigarette
So I am going to say its a safe bet that Steve gets his stuff from Shenzhen China (hope I didnt give anything away Steve? I was wondering where this stuff comes from thats how i found it)
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I ordered from litecig usa and puresmoker both the 901's and the penstyle from puresmoker were better more so the penstyles. the penstyle's from litecigusa draw was way too light so much so I got new atomizers from puresmoker and I am not talking about one penstyle multiple two from puresmoker and many from litecig usa But I see on his website he's not selling penstyle's any more at the moment. litecig usa's 901's are not too bad but still not as good as puresmoker's the charger's aren't as good and batt life not as good atiomizer's not to bad seeing he just lowered his already low price by $5.00 it's hard to shoot down the 901's from litecig also I am talking about multiple 901's I ordered also. I got two bad 901 battsfrom litecig not to bad because all the other one's were good. only got one 901 from steve but many atomizers all good . I believe steven's stuff from puresmoker's is model's DSE not so with litecig usa.
Yesterday I ordered 20 901's from them and a few other things. Shemi was VERY helpful! (there alibaba sales rep)
Maybe the same guy translates all the Chinese sites to English and thinks the Chinese word for "distributor" actually means "manufacturer".
I have bought a 901 and some liquid from Jane at e-cig sales, replacement parts and USB charger from Katy at the Smokeless shop, eliquid and a few USB passthrough batteries from Steve at Puresmoker, and a David Yang penstyle from Gashin. All of these have been quality parts and good liquid. Customer service has been phenomenal, shipping reasonable, and no communication problems. All of these are suppliers listed in the Suppliers list.
Buying from the suppliers who post on this forum, you will probably not find a strong difference in quality. They pretty much all supply the highest quality product they could find, perhaps many from the same wholesaler. It does not matter to me, really, if they come from the same wholesaler or different ones. I really just care about the above stated things - quality, price, communication, service, and timeliness.
If you want to see quality differences, try ordering from suppliers who don't post here. Two were mentioned earlier in this thread. You can get product cheaper from them, but have fun trying to get any service when you get your low quality stuff. Our suppliers are really the guys who sort out all those details for us. They figure out which wholesalers have good product for good price. They search and find the best stuff out there. They warranty the product, thus saving us the hassle of trying to get any service from the wholesalers who speak only a very broken English and that is only if you somehow manage to find a raw nerve that gets them to answer their emails or their telephones.
Buying from the suppliers who post on this forum, you will probably not find a strong difference in quality. They pretty much all supply the highest quality product they could find, perhaps many from the same wholesaler. It does not matter to me, really, if they come from the same wholesaler or different ones. I really just care about the above stated things - quality, price, communication, service, and timeliness.
If you want to see quality differences, try ordering from suppliers who don't post here. Two were mentioned earlier in this thread. You can get product cheaper from them, but have fun trying to get any service when you get your low quality stuff. Our suppliers are really the guys who sort out all those details for us. They figure out which wholesalers have good product for good price. They search and find the best stuff out there. They warranty the product, thus saving us the hassle of trying to get any service from the wholesalers who speak only a very broken English and that is only if you somehow manage to find a raw nerve that gets them to answer their emails or their telephones.
A lot of the people on alibaba are not actually from the company they claim. They represent those companies and act as traders.
There are only a handful of manufacturers but hundreds if not thousands will claim that they are manufacturers. It is very rare that you get to contact a "real" manufacturer.
Some of these companies might be manufacturing/ trading some fake mp5 players, iphones and other gadgets and decides to do trading for e-cigarettes as well. Don't be fooled by the CE and ROHS certs cos those can be bought at a few thousand RMB in Shenzhen.
Once you find something wrong and question them, their story will change from being a manufacturer to being that they only manufacture certain parts(i.e the battery) and source other components elsewhere. After more probing and if you're really smart to find loopholes, they will come up with another story that they are actually a shareholder of the actual manufacturer. The manufacturer will back them up cos there's business to be made. But they will most certainly always trade with another company name or personal name, citing some **** and bull story.
Theres really nothing too wrong about this cos manufacturers might not be interested to deal with small purchases so these middlemen fills in the void.
This is from my previous work experience in China and also numerous complaints from friends who do business in China. If you don't agree and find this offensive, i apologise in advance...
There are only a handful of manufacturers but hundreds if not thousands will claim that they are manufacturers. It is very rare that you get to contact a "real" manufacturer.
Some of these companies might be manufacturing/ trading some fake mp5 players, iphones and other gadgets and decides to do trading for e-cigarettes as well. Don't be fooled by the CE and ROHS certs cos those can be bought at a few thousand RMB in Shenzhen.
Once you find something wrong and question them, their story will change from being a manufacturer to being that they only manufacture certain parts(i.e the battery) and source other components elsewhere. After more probing and if you're really smart to find loopholes, they will come up with another story that they are actually a shareholder of the actual manufacturer. The manufacturer will back them up cos there's business to be made. But they will most certainly always trade with another company name or personal name, citing some **** and bull story.
Theres really nothing too wrong about this cos manufacturers might not be interested to deal with small purchases so these middlemen fills in the void.
This is from my previous work experience in China and also numerous complaints from friends who do business in China. If you don't agree and find this offensive, i apologise in advance...
I just received a KR808 Black from china, and hum ... its nearly the same as the Janty Fogger, same size, same throat hit, same atomizer ... the two differences ae : the price, and the blue sign which is specific to the janty fogger battery ...
Concerning the liquid, i will be receiving a sample centrale trade (Royalsmoker) liquid and will keep you posted on the difference with the janty one. Many members did try the Royalsmokers, whats your point of view ?
Concerning the liquid, i will be receiving a sample centrale trade (Royalsmoker) liquid and will keep you posted on the difference with the janty one. Many members did try the Royalsmokers, whats your point of view ?
These are the big three lol Best I can figure is that Desan however licenses them to make their products Hence the DSE bit , pretty much every "manufacturer " resells from these companies.
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