iTaste SVD or MVP 2?

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Had SVD, returned it because it misfired from day one. It has a horrible design flaw - cheap micro tact switch on the PCB, worse than any VV/VW mod. Expected switch failure is very high, it can even be dent on the PCB from simply using it. Now I ordered an MVP 2.0 because from all the research I've done, it's one of the best buy mods on the market with amazing battery life. If you don't need to go above 5V, I'd suggest MVP 2.0.



Careful, there is one particularly juvenile SVD owner here who gets his panties all knotted up everytime you say the SVD has flaws. He'll even start sending you PM's whining and complaining and trying to suggest you're the only one in the world who got a bad one. Apparently his works, and that's enough to convince him it's the greatest, most reliable, well built mod on the planet.

You and I both know the SVD has numerous flaws and shouldn't be on the market at all, but he's certainly going to chime in at any moment to say everyone is lying and it's a great device.
 

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Interesting...I like my SVD due to the quality/cost no issues with mine.
What is wrong with your SVD that sways you to say it is "a cheap, poorly designed, poorly assembled mess at a high price."

Well, unlike you I don't call a product "quality" just because mine works. More than a hundred thousand Ford Pinto's were on the road at one time, but that didn't make the Ford Pinto a quality product.

As for why I say it's cheap, poorly designed, and poorly assembled mess, it's because I've taken one apart and seen how it's built. I'm far from a novice when it comes to wiring and electronics, I'm a systems and network administrator by career now and I used to work in automotive electronics at an Infiniti dealership.


Allow me to show you why I say the SVD is bad.

Start by taking the battery out of your SVD and then look into the tube. You'll see a little black cap with a metal battery terminal in the middle.
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Using a long, thin pair of pliers, pull that cap straight up and out of the tube. It's not held in with anything more than friction, so it comes out easily.
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Just under the cap you'll find the first problem. I took this picture after having already repaired my SVD once, so you can see the thick taping I used as a wrap around the heat shrink I added when I repaired it. What you will find in yours is quite different. The positive battery wire is spliced together instead of being a single wire. The spliced wires are simply finger-twisted together and held in place by a tiny little piece of tape barely 3mm wide.
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If you tug on the wire at all you'll find it easily separates since nothing is holding the connection together other than that one piece of tape.
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This is a HUGE safety problem. If those wires come loose inside the tube and the positive battery wire comes into contact with the body it creates a very dangerous short. It would be like taking that wire and running it straight from the positive to the negative battery terminal and allowing the battery to discharge uncontrolled. I can tell you from personal experience that it's enough to heat the body of the SVD and get the battery hot enough to burn skin if you touch it. Left alone it could potentially cause the battery to catch fire or explode.


At the other end of the tube you'll find another design flaw. This o ring insulating the top electrical terminal comes apart really easily. Sometimes it's crushed or torn in assembly. When it tears it creates another short at the top of the SVD which must be repaired to make it work.
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How to fix the Innokin, iTaste SVD E-Cig from the 5 second Red Button, 0.0 amp ground fault - YouTube



Then there are the problems with the micro tact switch that Mouth talked about. I had one of those switches fail as well, which renders the SVD totally useless and unrepairable.


I have never seen an electronics device as poorly built as the SVD. In my experience the wiring would be considered unacceptable, failing to meet the electronics industry standards that are found in common children's toys. It should be virtually indestructible, being nothing more than a metal tube with a tiny PCB mounted inside, but instead it is incredibly fragile and puts you at risk of extremely dangerous battery shorts and fires.

I would never rely on a twisted wire splice and tape for a low voltage speaker wire, much less a power wire that could cause a fire. It shouldn't be allowed to be sold the way it is.
 
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It's not chain vaping turning mine off. It can be picked up from my desk, not been touched for an hour, push the button to fire, and bam... three blinks and off. Could be firing, and in the middle of a drag, and bam... just shuts off. I just got a bad one, that's all. I could have returned it for a refund or an exchange, but I didn't feel like wasting more money on return shipping. My Vamo and my VTR work flawlessly, so I just put on the desk as backup. No Biggie to me really.

ahhh okay... yours could be faulty I find mine turning off with the rapid button pushing during excessive vape sessions... also when the battery hits 3.3V and I do a long draw...
 

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My 2¢, which is now only worth about 1.125¢, is to go with the MVP. It is "all in one", meaning you don't have to fiddle with batteries, separate charger and possible design flaws in the SVD. The MVP also gets you started with vv/vw. I started with the iTaste vv/vw as a move up from evod batteries. The MVP lasts me 3 days before charge. My only issue is that it is a bit heavy for slipping into a shirt pocket, so I carry the iTaste V3. I'm a bit new to vape world, so I'm sticking to less expensive and techinical devices.
 

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Well, unlike you I don't call a product "quality" just because mine works. More than a hundred thousand Ford Pinto's were on the road at one time, but that didn't make the Ford Pinto a quality product.

As for why I say it's cheap, poorly designed, and poorly assembled mess, it's because I've taken one apart and seen how it's built. I'm far from a novice when it comes to wiring and electronics, I'm a systems and network administrator by career now and I used to work in automotive electronics at an Infiniti dealership.


Allow me to show you why I say the SVD is bad.

Start by taking the battery out of your SVD and then look into the tube. You'll see a little black cap with a metal battery terminal in the middle.
IMG_1026.jpg


Using a long, thin pair of pliers, pull that cap straight up and out of the tube. It's not held in with anything more than friction, so it comes out easily.
IMG_1027.jpg


Just under the cap you'll find the first problem. I took this picture after having already repaired my SVD once, so you can see the thick taping I used as a wrap around the heat shrink I added when I repaired it. What you will find in yours is quite different. The positive battery wire is spliced together instead of being a single wire. The spliced wires are simply finger-twisted together and held in place by a tiny little piece of tape barely 3mm wide.
IMG_1028.jpg


If you tug on the wire at all you'll find it easily separates since nothing is holding the connection together other than that one piece of tape.
IMG_1029.jpg



This is a HUGE safety problem. If those wires come loose inside the tube and the positive battery wire comes into contact with the body it creates a very dangerous short. It would be like taking that wire and running it straight from the positive to the negative battery terminal and allowing the battery to discharge uncontrolled. I can tell you from personal experience that it's enough to heat the body of the SVD and get the battery hot enough to burn skin if you touch it. Left alone it could potentially cause the battery to catch fire or explode.


At the other end of the tube you'll find another design flaw. This o ring insulating the top electrical terminal comes apart really easily. Sometimes it's crushed or torn in assembly. When it tears it creates another short at the top of the SVD which must be repaired to make it work.
maxresdefault.jpg


How to fix the Innokin, iTaste SVD E-Cig from the 5 second Red Button, 0.0 amp ground fault - YouTube



Then there are the problems with the micro tact switch that Mouth talked about. I had one of those switches fail as well, which renders the SVD totally useless and unrepairable.


I have never seen an electronics device as poorly built as the SVD. In my experience the wiring would be considered unacceptable, failing to meet the electronics industry standards that are found in common children's toys. It should be virtually indestructible, being nothing more than a metal tube with a tiny PCB mounted inside, but instead it is incredibly fragile and puts you at risk of extremely dangerous battery shorts and fires.

I would never rely on a twisted wire splice and tape for a low voltage speaker wire, much less a power wire that could cause a fire. It shouldn't be allowed to be sold the way it is.

just pulled mine apart from the bottom as in the picture.... no wire splice... wire extended about 3/4" from bottom of tube with black cap attached... the top insulator is in great condition no juice deteioration happening there either...
looks like you got the lemon .... happens, I got 2 lemon Vamo3's both died from falling only a couple of feet.
 

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just pulled mine apart from the bottom as in the picture.... no wire splice... wire extended about 3/4" from bottom of tube with black cap attached... the top insulator is in great condition no juice deteioration happening there either...
looks like you got the lemon .... happens, I got 2 lemon Vamo3's both died from falling only a couple of feet.

Even if the wiring is ok, the button design is still a huge flaw.
 

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just pulled mine apart from the bottom as in the picture.... no wire splice... wire extended about 3/4" from bottom of tube with black cap attached... the top insulator is in great condition no juice deteioration happening there either...
looks like you got the lemon .... happens, I got 2 lemon Vamo3's both died from falling only a couple of feet.

Thanks for doing that you just saved me from opening mine. It looks like innokin has fixed a few things, button design may be included
 

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Got my svd from tropical vapors on Thursday. I like the feel of it better than the vamo. I've heard good things about the MVP. But other than reos, not too curious about box mods. Rather than ordering a new vv/vw mod I'm thing of just picking up a provari next month to see if it's the best thing since sliced bread....I'd just miss the vw. It makes life so easy when I'm in lazy mode.
 

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Got my svd from tropical vapors on Thursday. I like the feel of it better than the vamo. I've heard good things about the MVP. But other than reos, not too curious about box mods. Rather than ordering a new vv/vw mod I'm thing of just picking up a provari next month to see if it's the best thing since sliced bread....I'd just miss the vw. It makes life so easy when I'm in lazy mode.

I will end up with a Provari one day, not today, and tomorrows not looking good either. lol. I am having a very very hard time justifying that kind of money for a VV only device with a 3 amp limit. Just seems to out of date for me. Would the amp limit hinder my style of vaping? No, probably not. Would I get used to VV instead of using VW all the time? Probably. I am leaning more towards the Spire myself.
 
You should also consider the form factor...if you just like the way one looks more than the other, take that into account. I personally don't care for the MVP's boxy shape, but a lot of people love it. My SVD has been rock solid for three months now, although now I'm scared after reading the previous posts that it might not last much longer.
 

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I don't think you can go wrong with the SVD or the MVP. I have the SVD and although I really haven't had for that long it is working flawlessly. I like it very much and it is a nice upgrade from my other mods.

A friend just picked up the MVP and that is a very nice unit in itself. Since I vape more at work I'm going to pick up an MVP for the long battery life.

As far as mod quality just about every mod I have own I had to fix in one way or another. I know that I'm not easy on my units, but I don't go out of my way to tear them up either. Accidental drops have prove to be instant repair on my previous mod. Such is life though.
 

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lol, when they start soldering the connection i might consider one.

other than that, the button sucks, I say stay away from the SVD, allow them to fix their mistakes.

Careful, there is one particularly juvenile SVD owner here who gets his panties all knotted up everytime you say the SVD has flaws. He'll even start sending you PM's whining and complaining and trying to suggest you're the only one in the world who got a bad one. Apparently his works, and that's enough to convince him it's the greatest, most reliable, well built mod on the planet.

You and I both know the SVD has numerous flaws and shouldn't be on the market at all, but he's certainly going to chime in at any moment to say everyone is lying and it's a great device.
 
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