I have already said that Ithaka works exactly as it has to work even with a ceramic like yours, so no worries at all Electra
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I asked karabas if I can translate this in English and post it here aleks. Thanks a lot for posting the link
Just make parallel coils buddy
I will try that thanks.
Update: I tried another juice with the same coils, torque56, and it is tasting normal. Too bad my favorite juices are not tasting good. I will try the parallel and report back.
I had this same problem when I first got my Ithaka and I discovered that my center post was not screwed in tight enough. When you take it apart can you move the center post from side to side at all? If so this is your problem. I don't know why but that was turning my joose dark, and thick immediately. I just make sure now to tighten that center post with needle nose pliers now and the problem is gone. Hope this helps.
Thats a review about Ithaka clones from karabas, a russian user and a good friend
If you want to see the pictures please follow the link
Ðопии Ithaka rebuildable atomizer Ð¾Ñ RainbowHeaven и Tobeco | TrueVaping.RU
Oh, dear readers, after completing a series of articles devoted to the review of Golden Greek Ithaka rebuildable atomizer ( again , two , three ), was going to take a break. However, tire out vusmert. For ten days to issue three kilograms bukof - is a tedious task ...
But now today I naplyuschilo by a terrible force, man. By morning a dream I was going to take him a second dog (in our family is found kobelek chihuahua named Jam). And, my dear mother, in this dream (or rather - in hallucinations) this is no ordinary dog, and the female pygmy elephant, the size of a large poodle. And, damn it, remove the parts are different, the details, they say, they are multi-format (similar to the African and Indian) ... Damn, and all this bredyatina (as happens in dreams) is quite real.
Kapets from a garbage woke up an hour earlier than the alarm clock, fed her and went to walk the animal. While wandering in the open air, this nonsense was slowly eroding from the mischievous little head. But came the realization that about "elephants" (clones) of Ithaca, one must also write times as much in this little thought has penetrated the subconscious.
Oh, that again does not hurt the fragile psyche is so amusing dreams, decided to give the same-assembled thoughts and observations on which are currently in the hands of the "clones» Ithaka rebuildable right now, without a break to rest.
Here we go!
On the example of reviews posted on this site are seen on the forums who met in his life served evaporators from manufacturers from China, it is easy to note an interesting pattern. What the Chinese are brothers nakreativyat themselves - that is the height of stupidity constructive and aesthetic misery.
But if you come across something decent (relatively decent, because the culture of production, still limping), you can fight for a mortgage, it is a copy (replica, "clone"), some claimed, a popular device designed and created by someone else.
Examples offhand: Rashn (clone Kayfuna 3.1), Siegel mehmod 20 (clone Roller), Chinese GGTS (clear clone that ) smokovsky RSST (clone AC9), mehmod K100 (clone Empire PV MOD), etc.
«Greek» (Golden Greek), the Chinese began to "copy" since not too well made device Nautilus / Terminator (clone Odysseus). Also, there is a "clone» UFS v.3. And now it is time to skommunizdil (for those who read through google-translate, explain: it's euphemism for an obscene word having to "steal") appearance and constructive GG Ithaka rebuildable atomizer. If I'm not mistaken, there are now there are four pieces, or even five.
I'm going to tell about the two creatures created RainbowHeaven Technology Shenzhen Co., Ltd . and Shenzhen Tobeco Technology Co., Ltd . Previously, we have already met with the products of these manufacturers. If interested, type in a search box on their site names: it will be possible to get acquainted with the fact that they were making before.
RainbowHeaven modestly calls his device «Hercules Rebuildable Atomizer». Tobeco same klichet their crafts «Tobeco atomizer Ithaka», or «Tobeco original Ithaka Rebuildable atomizer». Oh, LOL.
After a review of the original broadcast anything about the structural elements of clones, settings, and other things - like uzho and unnecessarily. What, then, to tell about clones?
Let's take the case. I'll try to answer all four questions :
How similar are clones of the original?
If there are differences, what are they?
Operable whether clones?
Is it advisable to purchase clones? If so, in what way and for what purposes?
So, like a clone of the original ? Natural - like they train with him and "lapped". Outwardly (size, shape, shared line) and structurally as repeated with a certain accuracy the size and shape of the printer.
Next show a scattering of photos. As the assembly device, and the individual parts. In all the photos on the left is the original, in the middle of the clone RainbowHeaven, right - the creation Tobeco.
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 01 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 02 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 03 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 04 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 05 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 06 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 07 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 08 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 09 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 10
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 11
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 12
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 13
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 14 Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 15
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 16
As you can see, the device - very similar. Is that the shape and size of some of parts and a little bit different (for example, the hole trapping air in the GGTS-tion base, form the upper part of the mouth, etc.).
Moreover, parts of the device (and original clones) can be combined together. Checked almost all of the options ...
(Ups! already started to answer the question about the differences between the two devices )
Is that ... ceramic cup and internal dimensions of the case ceramic cups in a clone of RainbowHeaven a bit less than the others compare devices. Therefore from him cup suitable for other (albeit loose), but on the other - fixed cram into it.
When screwing GGTS-tion base Tobeco clone of the original 510-th base felt clear "podgryzanie" thread.
Nut tank cover from RainbowHeaven not screwed into the lid of the tank from Tobeco. And yet there was something - forgot to be honest.
Inner diameter of the upper part of the tank cover (wherein the mouthpiece extends) in all devices having a different resolution. Original 12.1 mm, a clone of RainbowHeaven between 11.8 and 11.9 mm, a clone of Tobeco 12,3 mm. And like a small difference, but it is noticeable even on the eye:
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 17
As a result, when removing the nuts of the tank RainbowHeaven clone of her all the time, pulled out of the ring. Both the mouthpiece rotates less comfortable.
In the photo, where stood side by side feed sleeve, it is clear that the Chinese are not clear with the hangover did not put the included to the original o-ring. And, damn it, the original can not do without it, because the threads fit perfectly. But in the clones - no, do not, threads so tightly fit together that building without that o-ring slime oozes out of the tank in the GGTS-ing base.
Several times (and the forums and in the comments here on the site) mentioned that the fundamental difference between Ithaka Golden Greek and its clones is in a simple indicator - in tolerances that are held by manufacturers in the production of parts. If you twist the original two parts, and they are kept on the threads is quite dense, the Chinese - they may well be "disturbed" (up / down, left / right). At first glance, it's okay if you do not take into account the fact that we are talking about the device, inside which is a slurry (liquid, damn it, and quite fluid.)
It's hard to imagine what impression on the readers have after viewing the above photos. I suppose that they would be radically opposed. From the "so there is no difference, why pay more?" To "Well, my dear, that's bull...., as it can be taken in hand? '.
When I got into the hands of a clone Tobeco, the first thought was: "It is horrible!". Poprivyknuv to it a little, a clone of RainbowHeaven already watched with less rejection (and, frankly, made it a little more carefully.)
But, most of all, such a subjective perception and evaluation of clones occurred against the background of what had already enjoyed the original. I suppose that if I first became acquainted with the creation Tobeko after ReynbovHevenovskim with creativity, and then the original - that it would be perceived less emotional. No wonder that during the booze "professionals" recommend degrees (Fortress of alcoholic beverages) to raise, not lower. Similarly, in veypinge: meet with the devices to be from worse to better, and not vice versa.
And here's something else ... Photos in any time will not give impression of holding the device in your hands and use it. And it is not even about blestyaschesti and external priglyadnosti. In another case. That's going to twist the two parts. In the original, it is "somehow" is the first attempt by the clones, a pancake, you have to "catch" the threads.
But in general, in comparison with many many other specimens of Chinese modostroeniya - these still tolerably well made. For the original - it would be a disgrace, and the clones - and you can forgive ...
We now discuss the performance of clones .
Clear the degree that they work. With sufficient accuracy for repeat original design. Put the o-rings where they forgot to put, to change where they are too fat / thin / not appropriate diameter (but it's more of a question of aesthetics) ...
Ah, yes, on a clone of Tobeko pin tip dangles at the pins of the (well, no one told these guys that the threads on the details must match). When you operate the device it is possible to catch a fault (short circuit) connector on the tip of the 510-th base. Therefore, it seems reasonable to wrap this right Circuits (pin tip) a pair of layers of tape FUM (PTFE sealing material). Either find a suitable size fluoroplastic tube (not too common, but I have it ).
And after that use ...
The question of whether to buy clones , dear readers, everyone decides on their own. Further comments on the matter are glubokoIMHOvymi (my personal opinion).
In my opinion, the clones is to acquire, if any, do not know what the device. But that was before, as long as this site has appeared overview of the original GG Ithaka rebuildable atomizer. If after that the user has read it but do not understand what this device - shame on me as a columnist (go and ubyus broom).
The second reason for the acquisition of clones is a desire to use it as a "donor" (spare parts) for the original. You never know - no, let's say, the ability to quickly find clear glass, cigarette holder, or something else. Then took the clone unscrewed from it the necessary detail (this is the best option from Tobeco) - was perfectly acceptable temporary solution.
The third reason has managed before you buy a clone GGTS (because I happened ). Cross it with the original - poshlyatina work. But with a clone - so, like, and nothing they stand each other.
By the way, it looks like this:
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 18
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 19
May remember - somewhere in the review of the original Ithaca said: that took a photo with a clone GGTS, but too shy to show the gaming public. As part of this obzorchega - you can. See:
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 20
That is so defective combined with brilliant original Ithaca ubogonkim GGTSa clone (not yet acquainted with the products live GG, this clone me quite happy). But perhaps this is the only drawback of the original Ithaca - it is hard to reconcile with ugly battery packs. I suppose that with this "disadvantage" is quite possible to reconcile.
The fourth reason ... Life - it is large and complex. And there are people among veyperov very modest means. Which (as they wrongly think) simply can not afford the high-quality original products. They are, most likely, and will become clones of Ithaca.
Wrote "as they mistakenly think" because, if you look at this constantly complaining about the lack of money to users within a year they would still buy whole scattering of cheap and low-quality devices. And if I did not do it, then we could use something quite decent.
If the above reasons can be somehow attributed to the rational, the following personally difficult for me to understand and accept. The fifth reason: there are people who, although they can not afford to buy quality things are normal, but the peculiarities of his character prefer to take only the cheapest (ie, the apologists' fkussnogo and cheap "veypinga). These also occur. Let them be all right, and they do not ikaetsya. Nothing more to say.
Another situation where somehow we can understand the purchase of "clone". If the original is physically impossible to buy, and that's it enjoy it (or very similar) device is very desirable. For other devices from the Golden Greek - it is applicable (there are not any on the market, and to take from baryg selling two jackpot - so this is beyond good and evil comes out). Awesomeness of the present situation is that at the time of writing this post Golden Greek Ithaka rebuildable atomizer - it's the only device on the Imeo, which is commercially available (specifically checked in official stores).
And the last. It is not even a reason, and "rotten excuse," but all the same and about her worth mentioning. There are times when the use of a good device carries a risk of ruin it (dropped, lost, forgotten ...) - cottage, garden, have a drink, a bite to eat ... I guess for the purpose clones will also work. I guess ...
And one more thing I want to tell in this review is not so much how long meditation aloud (in the sense - in writing ). It's about as simple, ordinary, yet important things, like respect. Respect for his person and respect for the people doing something good and useful.
Personally Imeo (Thanasis Raptis) can be treated in different ways, but it is difficult not to respect. In a review of the clone GGTS wrote another, but, having become acquainted with the devices closer GG, agree that this is a talented register. And this respect - is reason enough to buy the original.
If this is not enough, consider, please, that's what ... Most active participants veyperskogo community (as well as readers of this site) - men. Look around at the sides, if it does not know - ask. For most women, regardless of their financial situation, the best of their personal belongings is underwear. Even if they do it to anyone and do not show too much. A woman can not wear the best clothes and shoes, cosmetics enjoy mediocre, but try to buy clothes - the best of what can afford. As a sign of respect for the personal ...
Guys! Really, panties and bra - is more important than the evaporator, which every day and every hour brings to my mind, and even in the mouth We thrust?
Okay, jokes aside, but should respect themselves. And, perhaps, at some point, there comes a time to stop using the trash and move on to something good. If only out of a desire to honor himself.
I think that now it is the right moment.
What do you personally choose, dear reader?
Mark, thank you for your attention . "Elephants" from the subconscious expelled. Now, certainly you can rest.
Regards, Vladislav Karabas
PS: More on the hands is a clone UFS v.3. And, frankly, I do not know what to do ... a curious device (the original, of course), worthy of detailed review. But spend the effort to clone (in his secret bunkers Tobeko tailored) - frankly pathetic. Fick know what to do.
PPS: Incidentally, the Chinese general kopipaster nafik lost the scent. Enjoying a message:http://www.ecigtalk.ru/forum/f36/t25894-p18.html # post2076146and quietly Shiz borzosti of these Pokémon. To the delight of users who want to deceive themselves and others, they say, they also have a normal device, the creators of ReynbovHeven renamed his clone, made a brilliant middle of painting "Wings." Well, the age-old problem of choice "to be, or to appear" - it's true, eternal ...
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Ðопии Ithaka rebuildable atomizer Ð¾Ñ RainbowHeaven и Tobeco | TrueVaping.RU
Oh, dear readers, after completing a series of articles devoted to the review of Golden Greek Ithaka rebuildable atomizer ( again , two , three ), was going to take a break. However, tire out vusmert. For ten days to issue three kilograms bukof - is a tedious task ...
But now today I naplyuschilo by a terrible force, man. By morning a dream I was going to take him a second dog (in our family is found kobelek chihuahua named Jam). And, my dear mother, in this dream (or rather - in hallucinations) this is no ordinary dog, and the female pygmy elephant, the size of a large poodle. And, damn it, remove the parts are different, the details, they say, they are multi-format (similar to the African and Indian) ... Damn, and all this bredyatina (as happens in dreams) is quite real.
Kapets from a garbage woke up an hour earlier than the alarm clock, fed her and went to walk the animal. While wandering in the open air, this nonsense was slowly eroding from the mischievous little head. But came the realization that about "elephants" (clones) of Ithaca, one must also write times as much in this little thought has penetrated the subconscious.
Oh, that again does not hurt the fragile psyche is so amusing dreams, decided to give the same-assembled thoughts and observations on which are currently in the hands of the "clones» Ithaka rebuildable right now, without a break to rest.
Here we go!
On the example of reviews posted on this site are seen on the forums who met in his life served evaporators from manufacturers from China, it is easy to note an interesting pattern. What the Chinese are brothers nakreativyat themselves - that is the height of stupidity constructive and aesthetic misery.
But if you come across something decent (relatively decent, because the culture of production, still limping), you can fight for a mortgage, it is a copy (replica, "clone"), some claimed, a popular device designed and created by someone else.
Examples offhand: Rashn (clone Kayfuna 3.1), Siegel mehmod 20 (clone Roller), Chinese GGTS (clear clone that
) smokovsky RSST (clone AC9), mehmod K100 (clone Empire PV MOD), etc.«Greek» (Golden Greek), the Chinese began to "copy" since not too well made device Nautilus / Terminator (clone Odysseus). Also, there is a "clone» UFS v.3. And now it is time to skommunizdil (for those who read through google-translate, explain: it's euphemism for an obscene word having to "steal") appearance and constructive GG Ithaka rebuildable atomizer. If I'm not mistaken, there are now there are four pieces, or even five.
I'm going to tell about the two creatures created RainbowHeaven Technology Shenzhen Co., Ltd . and Shenzhen Tobeco Technology Co., Ltd . Previously, we have already met with the products of these manufacturers. If interested, type in a search box on their site names: it will be possible to get acquainted with the fact that they were making before.
RainbowHeaven modestly calls his device «Hercules Rebuildable Atomizer». Tobeco same klichet their crafts «Tobeco atomizer Ithaka», or «Tobeco original Ithaka Rebuildable atomizer». Oh, LOL
.After a review of the original broadcast anything about the structural elements of clones, settings, and other things - like uzho and unnecessarily. What, then, to tell about clones?
Let's take the case. I'll try to answer all four questions :
How similar are clones of the original?
If there are differences, what are they?
Operable whether clones?
Is it advisable to purchase clones? If so, in what way and for what purposes?
So, like a clone of the original ? Natural - like they train with him and "lapped". Outwardly (size, shape, shared line) and structurally as repeated with a certain accuracy the size and shape of the printer.
Next show a scattering of photos. As the assembly device, and the individual parts. In all the photos on the left is the original, in the middle of the clone RainbowHeaven, right - the creation Tobeco.
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 01 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 02 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 03 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 04 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 05 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 06 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 07 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 08 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). 09 Photos
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 10
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 11
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 12
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 13
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 14 Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 15
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 16
As you can see, the device - very similar. Is that the shape and size of some of parts and a little bit different (for example, the hole trapping air in the GGTS-tion base, form the upper part of the mouth, etc.).
Moreover, parts of the device (and original clones) can be combined together. Checked almost all of the options ...
(Ups! already started to answer the question about the differences between the two devices )
Is that ... ceramic cup and internal dimensions of the case ceramic cups in a clone of RainbowHeaven a bit less than the others compare devices. Therefore from him cup suitable for other (albeit loose), but on the other - fixed cram into it.
When screwing GGTS-tion base Tobeco clone of the original 510-th base felt clear "podgryzanie" thread.
Nut tank cover from RainbowHeaven not screwed into the lid of the tank from Tobeco. And yet there was something - forgot to be honest.
Inner diameter of the upper part of the tank cover (wherein the mouthpiece extends) in all devices having a different resolution. Original 12.1 mm, a clone of RainbowHeaven between 11.8 and 11.9 mm, a clone of Tobeco 12,3 mm. And like a small difference, but it is noticeable even on the eye:
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 17
As a result, when removing the nuts of the tank RainbowHeaven clone of her all the time, pulled out of the ring. Both the mouthpiece rotates less comfortable.
In the photo, where stood side by side feed sleeve, it is clear that the Chinese are not clear with the hangover did not put the included to the original o-ring. And, damn it, the original can not do without it, because the threads fit perfectly. But in the clones - no, do not, threads so tightly fit together that building without that o-ring slime oozes out of the tank in the GGTS-ing base.
Several times (and the forums and in the comments here on the site) mentioned that the fundamental difference between Ithaka Golden Greek and its clones is in a simple indicator - in tolerances that are held by manufacturers in the production of parts. If you twist the original two parts, and they are kept on the threads is quite dense, the Chinese - they may well be "disturbed" (up / down, left / right). At first glance, it's okay if you do not take into account the fact that we are talking about the device, inside which is a slurry (liquid, damn it, and quite fluid.)
It's hard to imagine what impression on the readers have after viewing the above photos. I suppose that they would be radically opposed. From the "so there is no difference, why pay more?" To "Well, my dear, that's bull...., as it can be taken in hand? '.
When I got into the hands of a clone Tobeco, the first thought was: "It is horrible!". Poprivyknuv to it a little, a clone of RainbowHeaven already watched with less rejection (and, frankly, made it a little more carefully.)
But, most of all, such a subjective perception and evaluation of clones occurred against the background of what had already enjoyed the original. I suppose that if I first became acquainted with the creation Tobeko after ReynbovHevenovskim with creativity, and then the original - that it would be perceived less emotional. No wonder that during the booze "professionals" recommend degrees (Fortress of alcoholic beverages) to raise, not lower. Similarly, in veypinge: meet with the devices to be from worse to better, and not vice versa
.And here's something else ... Photos in any time will not give impression of holding the device in your hands and use it. And it is not even about blestyaschesti and external priglyadnosti. In another case. That's going to twist the two parts. In the original, it is "somehow" is the first attempt by the clones, a pancake, you have to "catch" the threads.
But in general, in comparison with many many other specimens of Chinese modostroeniya - these still tolerably well made. For the original - it would be a disgrace, and the clones - and you can forgive ...
We now discuss the performance of clones .
Clear the degree that they work. With sufficient accuracy for repeat original design. Put the o-rings where they forgot to put, to change where they are too fat / thin / not appropriate diameter (but it's more of a question of aesthetics) ...
Ah, yes, on a clone of Tobeko pin tip dangles at the pins of the (well, no one told these guys that the threads on the details must match). When you operate the device it is possible to catch a fault (short circuit) connector on the tip of the 510-th base. Therefore, it seems reasonable to wrap this right Circuits (pin tip) a pair of layers of tape FUM (PTFE sealing material). Either find a suitable size fluoroplastic tube (not too common, but I have it
).And after that use ...
The question of whether to buy clones , dear readers, everyone decides on their own. Further comments on the matter are glubokoIMHOvymi (my personal opinion).
In my opinion, the clones is to acquire, if any, do not know what the device. But that was before, as long as this site has appeared overview of the original GG Ithaka rebuildable atomizer. If after that the user has read it but do not understand what this device - shame on me as a columnist (go and ubyus broom).
The second reason for the acquisition of clones is a desire to use it as a "donor" (spare parts) for the original. You never know - no, let's say, the ability to quickly find clear glass, cigarette holder, or something else. Then took the clone unscrewed from it the necessary detail (this is the best option from Tobeco) - was perfectly acceptable temporary solution.
The third reason has managed before you buy a clone GGTS (because I happened
). Cross it with the original - poshlyatina work. But with a clone - so, like, and nothing they stand each other.By the way, it looks like this:
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 18
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 19
May remember - somewhere in the review of the original Ithaca said: that took a photo with a clone GGTS, but too shy to show the gaming public. As part of this obzorchega - you can. See:
Copies of Ithaka rebuildable atomizer from RainbowHeaven and Tobeco. Comparison with the original (pictured - left). Photo 20
That is so defective combined with brilliant original Ithaca ubogonkim GGTSa clone (not yet acquainted with the products live GG, this clone me quite happy). But perhaps this is the only drawback of the original Ithaca - it is hard to reconcile with ugly battery packs. I suppose that with this "disadvantage" is quite possible to reconcile.
The fourth reason ... Life - it is large and complex. And there are people among veyperov very modest means. Which (as they wrongly think) simply can not afford the high-quality original products. They are, most likely, and will become clones of Ithaca.
Wrote "as they mistakenly think" because, if you look at this constantly complaining about the lack of money to users within a year they would still buy whole scattering of cheap and low-quality devices. And if I did not do it, then we could use something quite decent.
If the above reasons can be somehow attributed to the rational, the following personally difficult for me to understand and accept. The fifth reason: there are people who, although they can not afford to buy quality things are normal, but the peculiarities of his character prefer to take only the cheapest (ie, the apologists' fkussnogo and cheap "veypinga). These also occur. Let them be all right, and they do not ikaetsya. Nothing more to say.
Another situation where somehow we can understand the purchase of "clone". If the original is physically impossible to buy, and that's it enjoy it (or very similar) device is very desirable. For other devices from the Golden Greek - it is applicable (there are not any on the market, and to take from baryg selling two jackpot - so this is beyond good and evil comes out). Awesomeness of the present situation is that at the time of writing this post Golden Greek Ithaka rebuildable atomizer - it's the only device on the Imeo, which is commercially available (specifically checked in official stores).
And the last. It is not even a reason, and "rotten excuse," but all the same and about her worth mentioning. There are times when the use of a good device carries a risk of ruin it (dropped, lost, forgotten ...) - cottage, garden, have a drink, a bite to eat ... I guess for the purpose clones will also work. I guess ...
And one more thing I want to tell in this review is not so much how long meditation aloud (in the sense - in writing
). It's about as simple, ordinary, yet important things, like respect. Respect for his person and respect for the people doing something good and useful.Personally Imeo (Thanasis Raptis) can be treated in different ways, but it is difficult not to respect. In a review of the clone GGTS wrote another, but, having become acquainted with the devices closer GG, agree that this is a talented register. And this respect - is reason enough to buy the original.
If this is not enough, consider, please, that's what ... Most active participants veyperskogo community (as well as readers of this site) - men. Look around at the sides, if it does not know - ask. For most women, regardless of their financial situation, the best of their personal belongings is underwear. Even if they do it to anyone and do not show too much. A woman can not wear the best clothes and shoes, cosmetics enjoy mediocre, but try to buy clothes - the best of what can afford. As a sign of respect for the personal ...
Guys! Really, panties and bra - is more important than the evaporator, which every day and every hour brings to my mind, and even in the mouth We thrust?
Okay, jokes aside, but should respect themselves. And, perhaps, at some point, there comes a time to stop using the trash and move on to something good. If only out of a desire to honor himself.
I think that now it is the right moment.
What do you personally choose, dear reader?
Mark, thank you for your attention . "Elephants" from the subconscious expelled. Now, certainly you can rest.
Regards, Vladislav Karabas
PS: More on the hands is a clone UFS v.3. And, frankly, I do not know what to do ... a curious device (the original, of course), worthy of detailed review. But spend the effort to clone (in his secret bunkers Tobeko tailored) - frankly pathetic. Fick know what to do.
PPS: Incidentally, the Chinese general kopipaster nafik lost the scent. Enjoying a message:http://www.ecigtalk.ru/forum/f36/t25894-p18.html # post2076146and quietly Shiz borzosti of these Pokémon. To the delight of users who want to deceive themselves and others, they say, they also have a normal device, the creators of ReynbovHeven renamed his clone, made a brilliant middle of painting "Wings." Well, the age-old problem of choice "to be, or to appear" - it's true, eternal ...
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I'd rather my money go straight to the brilliant folks who designed these things in the first place instead of someone who just copied their idea. The love and dedication they put to these is worth that much to me. Not to mention the unrivaled quality and craftsmanship.
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Yes you are right...moving to a new house,so times are tight ya know. Soon as i can the Real one is mine for sure. Clone works but its made so cheap if i drop it it would break i think. GG ALL THE WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello GG!
Imeo I've got to give credit where credit is do my friend. I just got done building my first coil on the Ithaka, and omg what have I been missing! Truly a freaking Amazing Vape! I set it up similar to igetcha69, dual coil about 1ohm, X with 2mm silica. My apple wood has never tasted so good. I can't get over the throat hit and the adjustable draw is amazingly perfect.
I dab'd with some mesh RBAs when they first cropped up a couple years ago but wen't back to 306/carto's shortly after as they were just to troublesome for me, this is amazing man. No leaks, no gurgling, no dry burns, i'm blown away. I don't use this board much but I had to jump on here and just say thank you. Your innovations are brilliant, and I can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Edit - I just want to add, these people buying the ithaka clone and other GG clone products should be ashamed. I think the Ithaka is worth every penny I paid for it, and the innovations and craftsmanship is worth much more than I paid.
Imeo I've got to give credit where credit is do my friend. I just got done building my first coil on the Ithaka, and omg what have I been missing! Truly a freaking Amazing Vape! I set it up similar to igetcha69, dual coil about 1ohm, X with 2mm silica. My apple wood has never tasted so good. I can't get over the throat hit and the adjustable draw is amazingly perfect.
I dab'd with some mesh RBAs when they first cropped up a couple years ago but wen't back to 306/carto's shortly after as they were just to troublesome for me, this is amazing man. No leaks, no gurgling, no dry burns, i'm blown away. I don't use this board much but I had to jump on here and just say thank you. Your innovations are brilliant, and I can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Edit - I just want to add, these people buying the ithaka clone and other GG clone products should be ashamed. I think the Ithaka is worth every penny I paid for it, and the innovations and craftsmanship is worth much more than I paid.
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I am having trouble with what seems to be wicking issueswith the ithaka. At first it seemed to be a strong TH. But now I think it's wicking of the ekowool. I have used 1.5 and 2mm with the same bad results. I'm using the criss cross on the ceramic. I can drip some juice thru the mp to the coils and it's great for a few hits then it's back to the hard throat hit. I'm using 12mg DKTab .8ohms. I'm thinking about going back to using just silica and see if that helps. When I first started vaping with this I had no problems. Any suggestions are welcome.
If you're already opening the bottom feed and the top juice control then ya I'd say go back to silica. Or a combo. Mine did good using a mix of ekowool and silica.
Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Both juice controls are open. My first builds were silica and it worked great. Thanks, a mix might work.
I believe the solution is in your post.
In my opinion ekowool has no enough absorbability, so when i used it I had either gurgling or dry taste
In my opinion ekowool has no enough absorbability, so when i used it I had either gurgling or dry taste
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Ok so I had to try. Micro coil on silica in the ithaka. Wow. Hits like a freakin vapor engine. Using 7mm 30 awg for however many wraps that gave me. On 3 1mm strands of silica. Single coil diagonally placed. 2.0ohms. Definitely gonna fine tune this. Only issue so far is it runs through juice like mad.
Possibly try a smaller diameter wick. Even if the wick is slightly loose when dry in the channels it could be swelling when wet and causing bad wicking.
Hi fowgdawg a buddy of mine was having problems with either flooding or dry hits. I sent him some of the ekowool 1.5 solid braided wick and it has been great for him now. Again, this is just a suggestion, as I dont know his resistance or thickness of his juice. I have noticed that with the ekowool, I do have to open my juice control a bit more. The ekowool is very absorbent so maybe it just needs a bit more soaking.
Ekowool is great, but as far as weather its better than good silica ist about the same for me, performance or taste wise. Ekowool just lasts longer and doesnt fray as much.
I hope you get it, but heck, if not , you had it working great for you so why mess with a good thing
Ekowool is great, but as far as weather its better than good silica ist about the same for me, performance or taste wise. Ekowool just lasts longer and doesnt fray as much.
I hope you get it, but heck, if not , you had it working great for you so why mess with a good thing
thank you arh and Dant. I never thought that copies will be a problem because I never thought that people will buy them. But some people do that and makes me wonder why they do it and throw their money to something that has problems. Also I am wondering why people give their money to someone that steals designs of other people
Thank you diesel, I am very glad that you are totally satisfied with your Ithaka
Thank you diesel, I am very glad that you are totally satisfied with your Ithaka
Onlyu 1 wick Dante and it works ok? No flooding ?
Ok so I had to try. Micro coil on silica in the ithaka. Wow. Hits like a freakin vapor engine. Using 7mm 30 awg for however many wraps that gave me. On 3 1mm strands of silica. Single coil diagonally placed. 2.0ohms. Definitely gonna fine tune this. Only issue so far is it runs through juice like mad.
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