It's 1 thing to claim ecigs are unhealthy but to lie to the public?

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rzil

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"Coming soon: Restrictions on e-cigarettes - Israel News, Ynetnews"


"The central material in any electronic cigarette is ethylene glycol, which is potentially harmful when inhaled into the lungs," says Dr. Yael Bar-Zeevi"

really Ethylene glycol ? please return your P.H.D , you are no doctor!

I have no problem with people saying "hey we don't know much about those , maybe they are dangerous but to lie like that to the public?"
 
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Hey Dave could you please give me what ANTZ stands for? I think it starts with Anti Nicotine but not sure and have no idea what the TZ means.

Yeah that Doctor, used very loosely, needs to go back to school.

:D Hi was payed so well hi doesn't care about his career anymore, easy:D
 

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So sick of beep People trying to ban e cigs. Suck it up princesses and stop worrying about things that don't concern you. Maybe those fatties should get out and exercise more of they are so worried about health.

People all like....Oh No the particles.... Yea...I'm sure you walked in to a McDonald's before.

I am a teacher and I'm allowed to vape in my elementary schools staff change room
 

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Hey Dave could you please give me what ANTZ stands for? I think it starts with Anti Nicotine but not sure and have no idea what the TZ means.

Yeah that Doctor, used very loosely, needs to go back to school.

See the underline on ANTZ? Mouse over it and you'll see the definition. ;)

Anti Nicotine and tobacco Zealots
 

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Brain damage from experimenting with ethylene glycol? :laugh:

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There has to be a special place in the nether world for people who deliberately lie for profit and/or power. Unfortunately today, having honor is not valued; and no one seems to experience shame or embarrassment. Excuses are offered instead, and that's suppose to make it alright. Few in authority or in the governments are punished. Too bad most of our elected officals and so called experts are in this catagory. It makes it pretty hard to believe anybody about anything.......:cry:
 

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Hey Dave could you please give me what ANTZ stands for? I think it starts with Anti Nicotine but not sure and have no idea what the TZ means.

Yeah that Doctor, used very loosely, needs to go back to school.

Anti Nicotine Tobacco Zealot (best I can find). Some say the NT is just shorthand for nicotine. It's a not so fond name for people who include ecigs in their hate regime for tobacco cigarettes. I guess if it looks like smoke ... it must be smoke.
 

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That is not such a bad thing. It would be much, much worse to [be] zealously in favor of nicotine and tobacco. Nicotine might be beneficial in some circumstances, and harmful in others. The jury is not still out on tobacco.

zeal·ot
ˈzelət/
noun
noun: zealot; plural noun: zealots

a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
synonyms: fanatic, enthusiast, extremist, radical, young Turk, diehard, true believer, activist, militant;

Sounds like a terrorist to me...
 

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zeal·ot
ˈzelət/
noun
noun: zealot; plural noun: zealots

a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
synonyms: fanatic, enthusiast, extremist, radical, young Turk, diehard, true believer, activist, militant;

Sounds like a terrorist to me...

Zealot - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
"a person who has very strong feelings about something (such as religion or politics) and who wants other people to have those feelings : a zealous person"

To me, being zealously in favor of tobacco sounds like insanity.
 

Nikkel

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Gee, most of us no longer use tobacco. Nicotine is not equal to tobacco, and has been found in studies to not be harmful or addicting.

It is a good thing that we no longer use tobacco. Most of us are happy that we don't. We know how harmful it is, to ourselves and those around us. Who, in his right mind, would be enthusiastically in favor of tobacco? Who, in his right mind, does not feel animosity toward tobacco companies?
The jury is still out on nicotine. Some studies have found it to be harmful and addicting. Inhalation of nicotine without the associated tobacco chemicals is a relatively new phenomena. Not enough time has elapsed for there to be long-term studies.
I don't think the pejorative term ANTZ necessarily means anti-ecig. I'm in favor of ecigs myself. I don't think I would say I am zealot. More like being cautiously optimistic.
Although I have been labeled an ANTZ by some in this forum, I think that is a mistake. I am neither ANTZ nor PANTZ (pro).
The term "ANTZ" was probably coined by the tobacco industry so they could claim to be the victims of unreasonable fanaticism. It is a shame that Big Ecig has adopted that term.
 
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