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Discussion in 'Vandy Vape' started by Gérard Toulouse, Apr 28, 2019.

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  1. Gérard Toulouse

    Gérard Toulouse Full Member

    Apr 27, 2019
    Hello,
    I am French, I did not find an information in France and I come to get it here.
    I would have liked to know the weight of the Jackaroo box. I found 3 different answers. So if anyone could weigh it. (the box only without battery)
    If it is too heavy I would take the aegis solo, but I would prefer the Jackaroo because I'm hiking and a 21700 will recharge much faster when I cross villages (xtar over4 slim 4.1 amps)

    And a member of the forum (Punk in drublic) says that Jackaroo has bug?

    Thank you








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  2. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    According to DJLsb, who is know for taking objective measures of devices under test, the Jackaroo does not output at the same power level that has been assigned. This might be corrected with a firmware update but I do not see one on the Vandy Vape website.

    DJLsb also mentioned the device weighs 227 grams.

     
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  3. Gérard Toulouse

    Gérard Toulouse Full Member

    Apr 27, 2019
    thank you for your quick reply . The power is not good. Always the same way?
    Just put stronger or weaker? or is it more random than that?
    I am unable to understand the video in English (sory)








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    Merci pour votre réponse rapide . Le pouvoir n'est pas bon. Toujours de la même manière?
    Il suffit de mettre plus fort ou plus faible? ou est-ce plus aléatoire que ça?
    Je suis incapable de comprendre la vidéo en anglais (sory)








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  4. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    It is not consistent, meaning off by the same amount through out it’s range. Here’s a screen shot of his measurements.

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  5. Gérard Toulouse

    Gérard Toulouse Full Member

    Apr 27, 2019
    According to you if I always vape at the same power (10 w). I would always have the same mistake, or no?








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  6. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    Looking at the chart it seems that the device reads the resistance wrong, then assigns the incorrect voltage resulting in an incorrect wattage. Instead of setting it at your preferred wattage, 10 watts, you could adjust the out put until you find a setting you like.

    Perhaps send Vandy Vape an email addressing your concerns. They might be working on a firmware update and just have not released it yet.
     
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  7. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Hi,
    If you look at the chart:
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    It is fairly consistent with a .5Ω to 1Ω coil.
    The Ω reading is not accurate, but not bad and the watts delivered are consistent, but low.
    If you vape at 10 watts with a 1Ω coil, you may need to use 11 watts with the Jack.

    HTH
    Cheers
    I
     
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  8. Gérard Toulouse

    Gérard Toulouse Full Member

    Apr 27, 2019
    Thank you very much for your cooperation . I will contact Vandy vape
     
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  9. Gérard Toulouse

    Gérard Toulouse Full Member

    Apr 27, 2019
    Hello Izan, thank you for your answer.
    I vape with Zenith 1.6 resistance.


















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  10. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    :thumbs::thumbs:
    I stopped looking at the screen a few years ago...
    If the vape is too cool, I turn it up; if the vape is too hot, I turn it down.


    Cheers
    I
     
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  11. Gérard Toulouse

    Gérard Toulouse Full Member

    Apr 27, 2019
    Je suis totalement d'accord avec toi Izan. C'est pourquoi j'ai demandé si l'erreur était aléatoire. Changer de courant n'est pas un problème, mais le changer toutes les 5 minutes est différent.
     
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  12. Gérard Toulouse

    Gérard Toulouse Full Member

    Apr 27, 2019
    I totally agree with you Izan. That's why I asked if the error was random. Changing power is not a problem, but changing it every 5 minutes is different.








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  13. Janishewskiy

    Janishewskiy Full Member

    Apr 9, 2016
    I will now write a review on Jackaroo, it will test the voltage for the power range and resistance, the data I bring to the table.
    Unfortunately I don’t really trust the DJLsb reviews, because I caught it on incorrect data several times. In addition, it is necessary to focus only on the resistance determined by the device, and not on some kind of reference.
     
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  14. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    Would be very interested in your measurements. What equipment are you using?

    At the time of this post DJLsb was the only reviewer to provide objective measurements that I knew of - and my above comments was based on the information I had at the time. Pbusardo also reviewed the Jackaroo ~1.5 months later (just less than a month after this thread) and his measurements seem to display a higher level of accuracy. So the question now becomes did Vandy Vape use DJLsb as reference and correct the discrepancies prior to final release? It wouldn’t be the first time. There is also the possibilities that DJLsb received a faulty device. Regardless, I do feel DJLsb measurements are accurate to the device he is reviewing. But that obviously does not void him of error which is also a possibility. That said, as a consumer, I find value in his reviews for we do not know if a poorly measured device will be corrected or not and we can use such objective measurements to make a purchasing decision.
     
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  15. Janishewskiy

    Janishewskiy Full Member

    Apr 9, 2016
    Let me explain a few things about this table.
    First of all, there are a lot of numbers, they are first dictated to the recorder, then transferred to the computer, so there may be errors. Secondly, the principle: "What I saw, I wrote it down", the voltage constantly floats, for various reasons.
    I reckon that, due to the large amount of data, it will be possible to understand the dynamics, and not specific figures.
    The first column in the group is the calculated voltage, they are calculated on the basis of a certain resistance (read by the device) and the power that I put on it (the leftmost column). The second column in the group, the voltage shown on the device screen. The 3rd column is the power calculated based on the resistance. The 4th column, the voltage read by the oscilloscope in the voltage measurement mode (RMS over one frame of the oscilloscope), the 4th column is the calculated power.
    The oscilloscope is connected between the device and the RDA base on which there is a spiral.
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  16. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
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  17. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    IDK the weight but honestly I'd be more inclined to go with the solo or even the original Ages Geekvape is a lot more tried and true when it comes to the unbreakable and/or submergible market. Also I'm not sure that a few grams are gonna make THAT much difference although I know that's not true for hikers but if I wasted a few grams anywhere I'd probably do it for a really consistent vape I KNOW if not going to fry out in the middle of nowhere.

    It's just a thought,

    Anna
     
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  18. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    The one thing I hear the jack jack is better at is screen durability. The link I posted mentioned that his aegis testing broke several from a 10' fall.
    The same guy couldn't figure out TC on the topside dual, or how to load firmware on the single though.
    The OG aegis is impossible to find though. Do it's solo or legend. No ,20700 support from geekvape.
     
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  19. Janishewskiy

    Janishewskiy Full Member

    Apr 9, 2016
    It surprises me that the interface very much reminded VOOPOO with its ill-conceived interface.
    TC "thanks for working like this" is impossible to use.
    And heaviness. This brick weighs 230 grams.
    From Aegis Solo, I had a completely different opinion, although prior to writing a review I was expecting about the same as from VOOPOO VMATE. The interface is extremely thought out, I have not seen this in Chinese devices for a long time. The only thing I didn’t like was the lid.
     
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  20. Ace80s

    Ace80s Senior Member

    Jul 24, 2019
    I just picked one up. Most of my mods are on the heavy side. I am outside a lot so I have been going for tough mods lately but that translates over to weight. Once I have had it longer I will know if the added weight really means added durability. The waterproof feature is nice. I can't figure the menu system out to save my life though. The screen is a little small for my liking but its manageable. The owners manual is even smaller.
     
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