Janty Kissbox Yentl

[jimmyjam358]

Hello all, new to e-smoking and have a couple of questions. I have been surfing the e-cig forums for some time on some advice of liquid. Janty has recently started selling liquid, which they state to only use their brand, anyhow I was wondering how long 10ml should last vs carts. I know there is no easy way to answer that question, but I would like some general ideas. Also my carts seem to work great for the first 1/3 of the cart and then seem to fizzle out if you will. I ordered the MLB "Marlboro" flavor, I think they missed the mark on that one, the RY4 is awesome and I want to go to the liquid, but not quite sure how to use it.

Thanks for the forum and hopefully on the way to being an e-smoker soley. As of now I mix e-smoking and real cigarettes. Though I am smoking less of the real ones. I think going with the high nic. from janty will help also with the RY4 flavor. The MLB seems too sweet when it shouldnt be. The wife however loves the apple and has ceased smoking real cigs altogether. Stronger will power I guess.

 

[Kate]

Hi Jimmy, welcome to the forum.

I don't know but would guess that the Yentl cartridges hold the same amount of liquid as a generic mini, that's 0.5 ml. A 10ml bottle of eliquid will give you 20 cartridge fills from dry. As I said, that's a guess.

You're best to not let your cartridges get too dry, at least a third of the liquid in them won't get vapourised anyway. Top them up with eliquid to keep them moist and you should have consistent vapour.

You can use a syringe with a needle to inject to the bottom of the filler and fill until the juice gets to the top of the cartridge. You can drip with an eye dropper onto the filler but it won't soak in as well, apparently if you use a needle to make holes in the filler it sinks in better. You can also put some eliquid in something small like an egg cup and put your cartridge filler side down until it soaks up enough liquid.

Good luck with the esmoking, I hope it helps you to get off the cigs.

 

[jimmyjam358]

Thanks for the reply, I think that liquid is going to be my best bet, it seems that that is what most of the experienced smokers use. So I will give it a go, and with the sale right now it is a great time to try the liquid.
It is amazing how many people wonder what you are smoking when they see you do it. I will soon be a full blown e-smoker.

 

[Kate]

Refilling cartridges with your own eliquid is probably the most economical thing to do and you have the benefit of being able to mix flavours. Janty eliquid has a good reputation and popular flavours. RY4 is well thought of. They have a new range of flavours coming, I'm looking forward to trying some myself.

 

[jimmyjam358]

You know I have been searching around the threads and I must say, Janty USA has really been on top of my orders and customer service, which I see can be an issue. I will say minus one bump (manual battery worked for like 8 min.) which was taken care of promptly and above my expectations, my experience with Janty have been very satisfying. The liquid was on sale, with a promo code, didnt work right, Ludo just changed the prices on the website within minutes. I just wanted some of the newbies to know that alot of these companies will take care of you and make sure you are happy. Thanks again for the great forum, I am very excited to recieve my e-liquid and get off burning cigs for good. Thanks to all who helped my wife find these things.

 

[electricity]

Hello,

I have alot of problems and frustration using my Janty Yentl which I got last friday.

- first of all, one of the batteries doesn't work at all, no matter that I charged it full.

- The cartridges seem to empty after just 5 - 10 puff's, after that no nicotine, very low vapor or no vapor at all. So i'll have to use something like 3 cartridges / day just to get my daily nicotine minimum satisfaction..

- half of the cartridges that I've already tried, blows some liquid to my mouth when I smoke the e-cig and it doesnt feel that awesome after the liquid is in my mouth..

- The atomizer overheats very easily

- the batteries that actually work, empty in like 1 - 2 hours..

I bought this from Janty europe, sent feedback already but no answer so far.
So my experience from Janty Yentl is: Waste of time and money.

 

[leaford]

5-10 puffs per cartridge? I don't buy that. Your second estimate of 3 cartridges per day is more like it. 4 or even 5 mini cartridges per day would be about what you can expect if you are a pack a day smoker or more. Mini cartridges, of any brand, do not hold much liquid, so you can't expect them to last all day.

Liquid in the mouth is a common problem for minis, especially when you pop in a fresh cartridge. It's the short mouthpieces, and the way the cartridge is sunken inside the mouthpiece. Liquid drops get shaken loose and get sucked through the airhole. One way to avoid this is to blow through the atomizer end of the cartridge HARD a few times before putting the cartridge onto the atomizer.

As for the rest, if you're interested in getting it to work, write Janty again. They do honor their guarantee and will replace faulty batteries and atomizers. If not, use their return policy. Again, they honor it, and you will get your money back.

Of course, that's assuming you're not just a troll. Just joined today, first post slags a reputable business with unlikely sounding claims. You fit the profile, so excuse me for being suspicous.

 

[electricity]

5-10 puffs per cartridge? I don't buy that. Your second estimate of 3 cartridges per day is more like it. 4 or even 5 mini cartridges per day would be about what you can expect if you are a pack a day smoker or more. Mini cartridges, of any brand, do not hold much liquid, so you can't expect them to last all day.

Liquid in the mouth is a common problem for minis, especially when you pop in a fresh cartridge. It's the short mouthpieces, and the way the cartridge is sunken inside the mouthpiece. Liquid drops get shaken loose and get sucked through the airhole. One way to avoid this is to blow through the atomizer end of the cartridge HARD a few times before putting the cartridge onto the atomizer.

As for the rest, if you're interested in getting it to work, write Janty again. They do honor their guarantee and will replace faulty batteries and atomizers. If not, use their return policy. Again, they honor it, and you will get your money back.

Of course, that's assuming you're not just a troll. Just joined today, first post slags a reputable business with unlikely sounding claims. You fit the profile, so excuse me for being suspicous.

I'm definitely not a troll. This is my first electronic cigarette and I joined this forum becouse I want to know if anyone else is having same issues or if there's a simple solution to it that I can fix at home without returning my product.

I've just had the feeling that 1 cartridge is equal to one pack of cigarettes so one cartridge should be enough for day.

so the main problem is that the cartridge and batteries empty too quickly in my opinion.

 

[leaford]

OK, sorry to be semi-paranoid.

The 1 cartridge = 1 pack claim is pure BS, and it's something just about ALL sellers are guilty of. It started with the penstyles, where it's still not true, but it's closer, and justifiable in theory since the penstyle cartridges hold 1ML of liquid, which should be enough to equal a pack of cigs.

But unfortunately you don't get all of the liquid out of the cartridges, so even the penstyles never actually equal a pack in use, more like a half pack, or 2/3s at best. From there the claim that one cartridge is equal to a pack seems to have been just copied and pasted over onto ads for minis, and then super-minis, with no consideration for the smaller size.

Most sellers have just blindly (and lazily IMO) copied the Chinese manufacturers text, so you can blame the Chinese if you want.

I don't think Janty says that on their site, though. You probably read that elsewhere.

Realistically, you should be able to expect a super-mini like the Yentyl to hold 1/3 ML or so, which will be about the same amount of puffs as 3 or 4 regular cigs.

Battery lifespan varies between super-mini brands, partly because the batteries themselves vary in size. The Yentyl are fairly long batteries, and I usually get around 100 puffs from mine, which would be about 10 cigs worth, or 2-3 cartridges.

 

[convert]

OK, sorry to be semi-paranoid.

The 1 cartridge = 1 pack claim is pure BS, and it's something just about ALL sellers are guilty of. It started with the penstyles, where it's still not true, but it's closer, and justifiable in theory since the penstyle cartridges hold 1ML of liquid, which should be enough to equal a pack of cigs.

But unfortunately you don't get all of the liquid out of the cartridges, so even the penstyles never actually equal a pack in use, more like a half pack, or 2/3s at best. From there the claim that one cartridge is equal to a pack seems to have been just copied and pasted over onto ads for minis, and then super-minis, with no consideration for the smaller size.

Realistically, you should be able to expect a super-mini like the Yentyl to hold 1/3 ML or so, which will be about the same amount of puffs as 3 or 4 regular cigs.

Battery lifespan varies between super-mini brands, partly because the batteries themselves vary in size. The Yentyl are fairly long batteries, and I usually get around 100 puffs from mine, which would be about 10 cigs worth, or 2-3 cartridges.

I'd go along with all the above. I posted this on another newbie thread - sorry can't remember which one but......

I've now got to the point that when I get a reduction in vapour I take out the old cart, take out the 'wool' and squeeze whatever's left into the atomoser. Then get a new cart, tease out the 'wool' about 1mm (1/16 inch) and insert. This gives blisssssssssss

I'm setting up a sig to my name

Joy is a new cart and new bat first thing in the morning

 

[Ludo]

100 % right Leaford! Whoever claims 1 cart equals 1 pack of cigarettes is a scam!

@ electricity: the yentl cartridges hold only 0.8 ml of liquid compaired to 1.2 ml for the classic cartridges

wait for Harry to respond, we jsut got a new stock arrival, he's busy organising things... but you WILL get an answer AND a solution.

The yentl really is a e-cig for pro-users. It takes time to learn how to handle it and get the most out of it. The classic on the eother hand, really is a work horse.

I do understand that new users want something that looks like a real cigarette, but keep in mind that the smaller the e-cig, the lesser power, the lesser battery life, the lesser liquid...

 

[electricity]

100 % right Leaford! Whoever claims 1 cart equals 1 pack of cigarettes is a scam!

@ electricity: the yentl cartridges hold only 0.8 ml of liquid compaired to 1.2 ml for the classic cartridges

wait for Harry to respond, we jsut got a new stock arrival, he's busy organising things... but you WILL get an answer AND a solution.

The yentl really is a e-cig for pro-users. It takes time to learn how to handle it and get the most out of it. The classic on the eother hand, really is a work horse.

I do understand that new users want something that looks like a real cigarette, but keep in mind that the smaller the e-cig, the lesser power, the lesser battery life, the lesser liquid...

alright thank you for your answers. this gives some answers for most of my questions. There's just not that much information or tutorials (at least I couldn't find any by googleing) of janty yentl, only the janty classic so that also made me a bit frustrated plus the fact that my last real smoke was almost one week ago

But I still think there's something wrong in the atomizer as it does not create that much vapor even with full cartridge. but i'll wait for reply from Harry

thx

 

[NEKine]

I had da same problem with my new KB Yentl. Super little bit vapor or none at all no matter what I tried. My supermini put out at least 5x more vapor. Thought dat couldn't be right so I ask for replacement. Had da same problem wid da replacement though. So either da Yentl is suppose to put out very little vapor, or I got two bad ones in a row. Bad luck I guess. I never like keep getting replacements, so I just when trade em in for da Classic model. Hope dat one going be good. Never did try a Classic model. Should get em by tomorrow.

 

[leaford]

Well, it's up to you, but neither Ludo nor Jeff have ever had any problem replacing my parts as often as I've needed, so don't hesitate out of shyness, is all I'm saying. But the Classic is better than the Yentyl for regular use anyway, IMO. Penstyles just work better for your main e-cig because the carttridges and batteries last longer. Superminis for me are a second e-cig, to use for a change from the strength or flavor of the pen, or as a backup just in case the pen runs out of liquid or power.

So, if you're trying to quit smoking completely, you're probably better off with the Classic anyway.

 

[NEKine]

How long is da replacement warranty for Janty anyway? And yeah, I been meaning to try out da Classic penstyle models. Thought dat since my Yentl acting up anyway, might as well take da chance for trade em in now. I got da regular one though not da Kissbox. Save money little bit. Hopefully still good. Should be pretty much same ting ah?

And yeah, I trying for quit real stoges for good. So far not too bad. 4 real stoges in 3 weeks.

 

[leaford]

They're warranteed for six months. I haven't had a non-kISSbox Janty Classic, so I'm not 100% sure, but I think the atomizer performance should be the same as the KISSbox. Battery life would be shorter than the KISSbox batteries, but ought to be as good as Njoy or a generic penstyle.

And, Pomaika`i.

 

[electricity]

hmm.. there definitely is something wrong with this. I'd llove to know which part it is.

Fully charged battery plus new cartridge generates no vapor and no nicotine. Actually all the liquid is coming straight to my mouth (tried few cartridges, same thing with all)

Is it the atomizer? Cartridges? Battery?

well anyway janty is sending me new battery and atomizer (thank you for that!)
let's hope those work better

 

[jimmyjam358]

Hello,

I have alot of problems and frustration using my Janty Yentl which I got last friday.

- first of all, one of the batteries doesn't work at all, no matter that I charged it full.

- The cartridges seem to empty after just 5 - 10 puff's, after that no nicotine, very low vapor or no vapor at all. So i'll have to use something like 3 cartridges / day just to get my daily nicotine minimum satisfaction..

- half of the cartridges that I've already tried, blows some liquid to my mouth when I smoke the e-cig and it doesnt feel that awesome after the liquid is in my mouth..

- The atomizer overheats very easily

- the batteries that actually work, empty in like 1 - 2 hours..

I bought this from Janty europe, sent feedback already but no answer so far.
So my experience from Janty Yentl is: Waste of time and money.

Well if I were you I would talk with the Janty people, like I said I had a battery issue and they went over and above to make it right, I will say that the liquid in the mouth does seem to be a problem, but I have to say I have learned how to "puff" a little easier than I do on burning cigs. It definatly takes getting used too. The other suggestion I have, I will let you know how this works, is to get the liquid. It seems that the liquid gives you the ability to always smoke a full cart, which in my opinion, is the best hits by far. Give it a minute and learn to use it the best for you. It is frustrating at first, but there is alot of useful information on these forums.

 

[Mr.Darcy]

if its fully loaded and it isnt producing any vapor,then its simply a faulty unit...
unlucky mate,these things happen to all of us from time to time...hopefully youll have the spares soon...

its hard to know if its atomiser or battery...youll be able to tell when you get your replacement parts,and juggle them about...
have you got a backup?

 

[electricity]

if its fully loaded and it isnt producing any vapor,then its simply a faulty unit...
unlucky mate,these things happen to all of us from time to time...hopefully youll have the spares soon...

its hard to know if its atomiser or battery...youll be able to tell when you get your replacement parts,and juggle them about...
have you got a backup?

nope, no backup.. that's the problem. makes me want normal cig untill I get the replacement parts..