Journalist Looking to Get Acquainted with the Vaping Community

[WillyZee]

he might just be a teenager with a twitter account ... we won't know, unless he comes back and contributes some substance to his thread

 

[retired1]

well lets not go too hard on Simon just yet, he did after all use the words "Aquainted with the vaping Community" and Aquainted means meet once or only a few times, so he probably is a journalist.

This.

Folks, we're not about being mean or nasty to anyone who signs up at ECF. Let's keep the negativity out of this please. I don't want to lock the thread, but I have no qualms at all about wading through and doing some massive deleting and editing of my own.

 

[jdrewry]

To the OP:

How much do you know about e-cigs?
What's your initial thoughts on e-cigs, and vaping?
How did you come to find out about ecf?
And, what kind of information are you looking to find here?

 

[fiddleshe]

Sorry I wasn't trying to be negative.

 

[airframer]

Today is day six with no cigarettes.

I have saved some cash and my breathing and energy rate has substantially improved.

I support my local busineses (vape shop and Zombie Juice) by purchasing many of the required consumables through them, as well.

 

[MiamiMom63]

I think you should write about all the great research and testing that has been done that shows the positive side of vaping and that there is no second hand vapor or harm to others, and try to refrain from that one rather biased and unscientific research report they did way back in 2009 that they keep referring to because there aren't any other tests that they have done since. You will find we are a community of people from all different walks of life and religious, sexual and political backgrounds, that have come together and become one for the main sheer fact that most all of us were addicted to cigarettes that were killing us, and now we have something that has saved our lives and makes us feel so much better. It's really been an amazing community to me both here in ECF, and locally in the vendors and vapers I've met at our local vape meets. People from all walks of life gathering together with one HUGE interest in common and getting along great together. For alot of us it has also become a hobby somewhat. I love to get with friends and discuss great e-liquid recipes we are working on, etc. It's alot of fun and it disgusts me when the government and officials try to tell us that we are only using flavors to try to entice teenagers to vape. I know most all the vendors in this area and no one would ever allow someone underage to buy an ecig or eliquid. If anything, vendors are even more careful than someone in your typical 7-11 setup because we are all super paranoid about the government attacking us for any little wrong thing.

 

[airframer]

Oh, and most all of us ARE in favor of prohibiting sales of nicotine to minors.

 

[MiamiMom63]

I haven't had a chance to read the entire thread, but be sure to contact CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association for pertinent unbiased and in-depth information!

 

[computertech83]

I think we scared this person away. And its all yall vapor's fault. J/K
Vape On my peeps!

ps. dont pick on my cause of the way i spelled yall, its a good day for me i got all the letters in the right position,

 

[crxess]

Okay............. WHO scared off the Journalist?

I almost had the trap and cage ready! We need a good reporter on our side.............one way or another.

 

[Laced713]

Interesting thread. I"d love to see him return and a positive article emerge. The fear mongering big tobacco companies really need someone to give them a run for their money. BTW Wishbone dressing contains propylene glycol and that's advertised as one of the healthiest dressings sooooo...... make informed decisions don't be a sheeple because it is safer then cancer sticks/coffin nails by far.

 

[patkin]

Now I can't be 100% positive on this, but I'm fairly sure Benjamin Franklin never said that.

Well.... Did you know a tree falling in the forest when no one is there DOES make a sound?

 

[tj99959]

The majority of my post was directed at the thread in general, not just at you.

Prove you're not a 6 pack a day smoker or an alien!



My point is, it doesn't matter who any of us really are - what matters is what we decide to share in the face of that anonymity. Why call someone out who claims to be a journalist, and not someone who claims to be a grandfather?

Wanna see my grandson?

 

[DC2]

Welcome to the forum.

If you hang around and get to know us, you will learn many things you never would have imagined learning.
You may laugh, you may cry, you may be inspired, and you may become angry about what they are trying to do to us.

Vaping is a story about many things, not just vaping.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I hope that you'll also understand that we are not a rude or obnoxious bunch, but rather, are frustrated that most (not all) coverage of vaping tends to gravitate towards the usual negative talking points regarding vaping.

I would only ask that you do your own research prior to going to print.

Vapers do not expect a "fluff" peice, but we do expect a thoughtful and balanced approach.

Vapers are not deluded individuals who have some sort of "death wish" by participating in a practice that is obviously unsafe. While the long term risks of vaping have yet to be determined, the long term harm from smoking has been clearly demonstrated. Early studies have show vaping to be thousands of times more safer than smoking. We practice in Risk Reduction. While none of us know what 50 years of vaping may do, we have seen first hand the destructive effects of 50 years of smoking and are willing to take that risk.

Many of us have smoked for years, and see e-cigarettes as potentially one of the most significant life saving developments in the last 100 years. The number of smokers who have been able to curtail or quit smoking entirely has been astounding. Here's a few myths I'd like to help dispel.

1. We do not vape anti-freeze. Yes, Propylene Glygol (PG) is an ingredient in anti-freeze, but it is an ingredient that is in the "pet-safe" anti-freeze. Diethylene Glygol is the highly poisonous substance that kills pets and is hazardous to your health It is NOT an ingredient in e-juice. Propylene Glygol, however, has been classified by the FDA as generally safe, and is a common ingredient in food stuffs and prescription drugs. Vegetable Glycerin is another common ingredient in vaping juice or "e-juice". It is also classified as safe by the FDA and is also a common ingredient in food stuffs. It is these ingredients or a combination thereof that produces the "vapor" one exhales when vaping.

2. Most e-juice does contain nicotine, but many of us also vape zero nicotine e-juice. We have found that vaping has not only helped us quit smoking, but the nicotine alone in e-cigarettes is far less addictive than the ingredients found in traditional cigarettes. Many vapers have found it VERY EASY to cut back or eliminate our Nicotine use through vaping. Something we were unable to do while smoking or attempting to use smoking cessation products such as gum, patches, etc.

3. Vapers do NOT promote the use of e-cigarettes to minors. The myriad of flavors available to vapers is not an attempt to attract children to vaping, but is simply a way for us to vary the experience we have vaping. Not once have I seen or heard a vaper promote the use of our products to children under 18. This includes the many vendors I have dealt with.

4. A Free and Open Market is vital to promote quality and safety standards of this industry. Many improvements on performance and quality of both equipment and e-juice have been achieved due to the self regulatory nature of a free and open market. Vapers reject poor product and that product does not sell. The 2009 FDA review of e-cigarettes and their ingredients is woefully outdated and many of the products evaluated were first generation products that had none of the quality controls that are required for success in today's market. Excessive FDA regulation of this industry would simply serve to hand over this industry to Big Tobacco, which historically has had a terrible track record regarding the safety of their products. There are literally reams of evidence from the Tobacco companies themselves on how Big Tobacco has continued to modify their product to be even more addictive and harmful than it originally was. I do not wish to see Tobacco companies manipulate the ingredients of e-cigarettes in a similar manner.

5. Please don't call us "smokers" if we no longer smoke. Businesses should have the right to have separate rules regarding smoking and vaping. I do not appreciate being labeled a tobacco user when I am not using tobacco.

6. Please don't promote the irrational fear of "second hand vape". There has been numerous studies on the health effects of second hand vapor and not ONE has mentioned any risk to bystanders.

I could go on, but I'll leave it at this.

I am 47 years old. I was a pack a day smoker for most of my adult life. I have tried on various occasions to try and quit smoking to no avail.

On October 14, 2013, I purchased an electronic cigarette starter pack in lieu of a carton of cigarettes. I have not smoked a traditional cigarette since. Because of e-cigarettes, I have avoided over 1200 cigarettes to date. I have noticed much better lung function and I no longer lose my breath climbing stairs or wake up with a morning cough. My sense of taste and smell has returned. In two months I have cut my nicotine usage by 1/3 and plan on being completely nicotine free in the next 4 months.

I urge you to do your own research. I urge you to look at the many people here and read their banners on how long they have been cigarette free. Compare the number of ex-smokers here and how long they have remained ex-smokers and compare that to the effectiveness of traditional Nicotine Replacement Therapy. Look at the side effects of the commonly available prescription smoking cessation drugs. Compare those to the risks of vaping.

Vapers are not trying to make "smoking" cool again, or peddle nicotine addiction to America's youth. We are simply using something that we have found as an incredibly effective way to give up tobacco use. Keep that in mind when you look at some of the restrictions trying to be placed on this industry, and how many people will be forced to smoke again because the only effective alternative has been legislated out of their reach.

Thank you for your time and welcome to ECF.

Holy smokes this is one excellent post!

The antifreeze thing is getting old. As p.opus said, it’s one of the ingredients in SAFE antifreeze, the stuff little birds and puppies can drink without so much as getting a zit.

I smoked over 43 years. It wasn't easy for me to switch over to vaping. It took me months. And then more months to get over all the wonderful withdrawl symptoms, some of which I still have. I have not had a cigarette for nine months today, saved over $3,300, and not smoked 11,000+ cigarettes. Tried everything to quit including gum, pills, patch, inhaler hypnosis, etc. It’s a little embarrassing but my current favorite flavor is vanilla cupcake. Bite me. My husband has been very supportive and our badass dog is a lush for the smell of coffee vape.

I believe our oldest member is in his 90s. We are not a bunch of kids trying out a new fad in here. These forums are filled with folks trying to quit an addictive, deadly habit chemically engineered by BT over the course of decades. We're beating them and BP with their useless NRTs.

 

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[dot1]

As long as it is a positive write up, To many people and companies jump on the bandwagon to try and ban E-cigs and juice. When they should be on the special interests groups in Washington that belong to the big tobacco co, Paying congressmen to get ride of us.

 

[smitighe]

I hope that you'll also understand that we are not a rude or obnoxious bunch, but rather, are frustrated that most (not all) coverage of vaping tends to gravitate towards the usual negative talking points regarding vaping.

I would only ask that you do your own research prior to going to print.

Vapers do not expect a "fluff" peice, but we do expect a thoughtful and balanced approach.

Vapers are not deluded individuals who have some sort of "death wish" by participating in a practice that is obviously unsafe. While the long term risks of vaping have yet to be determined, the long term harm from smoking has been clearly demonstrated. Early studies have show vaping to be thousands of times more safer than smoking. We practice in Risk Reduction. While none of us know what 50 years of vaping may do, we have seen first hand the destructive effects of 50 years of smoking and are willing to take that risk.

Many of us have smoked for years, and see e-cigarettes as potentially one of the most significant life saving developments in the last 100 years. The number of smokers who have been able to curtail or quit smoking entirely has been astounding. Here's a few myths I'd like to help dispel.

1. We do not vape anti-freeze. Yes, Propylene Glygol (PG) is an ingredient in anti-freeze, but it is an ingredient that is in the "pet-safe" anti-freeze. Diethylene Glygol is the highly poisonous substance that kills pets and is hazardous to your health It is NOT an ingredient in e-juice. Propylene Glygol, however, has been classified by the FDA as generally safe, and is a common ingredient in food stuffs and prescription drugs. Vegetable Glycerin is another common ingredient in vaping juice or "e-juice". It is also classified as safe by the FDA and is also a common ingredient in food stuffs. It is these ingredients or a combination thereof that produces the "vapor" one exhales when vaping.

2. Most e-juice does contain nicotine, but many of us also vape zero nicotine e-juice. We have found that vaping has not only helped us quit smoking, but the nicotine alone in e-cigarettes is far less addictive than the ingredients found in traditional cigarettes. Many vapers have found it VERY EASY to cut back or eliminate our Nicotine use through vaping. Something we were unable to do while smoking or attempting to use smoking cessation products such as gum, patches, etc.

3. Vapers do NOT promote the use of e-cigarettes to minors. The myriad of flavors available to vapers is not an attempt to attract children to vaping, but is simply a way for us to vary the experience we have vaping. Not once have I seen or heard a vaper promote the use of our products to children under 18. This includes the many vendors I have dealt with.

4. A Free and Open Market is vital to promote quality and safety standards of this industry. Many improvements on performance and quality of both equipment and e-juice have been achieved due to the self regulatory nature of a free and open market. Vapers reject poor product and that product does not sell. The 2009 FDA review of e-cigarettes and their ingredients is woefully outdated and many of the products evaluated were first generation products that had none of the quality controls that are required for success in today's market. Excessive FDA regulation of this industry would simply serve to hand over this industry to Big Tobacco, which historically has had a terrible track record regarding the safety of their products. There are literally reams of evidence from the Tobacco companies themselves on how Big Tobacco has continued to modify their product to be even more addictive and harmful than it originally was. I do not wish to see Tobacco companies manipulate the ingredients of e-cigarettes in a similar manner.

5. Please don't call us "smokers" if we no longer smoke. Businesses should have the right to have separate rules regarding smoking and vaping. I do not appreciate being labeled a tobacco user when I am not using tobacco.

6. Please don't promote the irrational fear of "second hand vape". There has been numerous studies on the health effects of second hand vapor and not ONE has mentioned any risk to bystanders.

I could go on, but I'll leave it at this.

I am 47 years old. I was a pack a day smoker for most of my adult life. I have tried on various occasions to try and quit smoking to no avail.

On October 14, 2013, I purchased an electronic cigarette starter pack in lieu of a carton of cigarettes. I have not smoked a traditional cigarette since. Because of e-cigarettes, I have avoided over 1200 cigarettes to date. I have noticed much better lung function and I no longer lose my breath climbing stairs or wake up with a morning cough. My sense of taste and smell has returned. In two months I have cut my nicotine usage by 1/3 and plan on being completely nicotine free in the next 4 months.

I urge you to do your own research. I urge you to look at the many people here and read their banners on how long they have been cigarette free. Compare the number of ex-smokers here and how long they have remained ex-smokers and compare that to the effectiveness of traditional Nicotine Replacement Therapy. Look at the side effects of the commonly available prescription smoking cessation drugs. Compare those to the risks of vaping.

Vapers are not trying to make "smoking" cool again, or peddle nicotine addiction to America's youth. We are simply using something that we have found as an incredibly effective way to give up tobacco use. Keep that in mind when you look at some of the restrictions trying to be placed on this industry, and how many people will be forced to smoke again because the only effective alternative has been legislated out of their reach.

Thank you for your time and welcome to ECF.

Very well put! And did this individual ever return to follow up? I enjoyed very much reading this.

 

[sistercreepy]

Welcome!! House of Leaves is a bizzare book. If it's the one I'm thinking of you have to turn it upside down, sideways and whichever way to read it. lol

 

[damthisisfun]

We at ECF are.................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbiWK_LqrcM