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Plumes.91

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well there are some great cases for your mods, so people do anticipate the almost inevitable drop.

Build quality issues I've found with the evic: Its NOT a badly built device and its not going to break EASILY.
But, the threads are very small and the rocker wheel on the control head does (at 1st) feel a bit fragile.
After having used my eVic for 2 days now, I am much more confident when dealing with the rocker wheel.
I like it. It feels great. I find myself putting the wattage up and down just to play with the wheel honestly...
Uhhh, as far as the screen? Its a vulnerable to drops design. The screen + wheel are vulnerabilities for sure.

I definitely wouldn't want to drop it at all.
It'd be the last of my mods I'd want to drop with the wheel+screen the way they are.
But I really do like the look AND feel of it as it appeals to my senses. A really neat mod for the senses.
As far as vape quality? NO complaints just yet. Although I've only used low resistances on it so far.
Higher resisted coils are not going to work great with the eVic because it limits how much voltage you may use.
Go with low to medium resistances/ohms if your eVic is going to be your only mod, and you'll be really happy with it.
GrimmGreen just put out a video where he seems pretty angry that he can't go to his preferred voltage to ohms.

Would I recommend this to a new vapor looking for first mod? Yes, I think so. I think its a great mod. A+
Would I recommend this to a more seasoned vapor looking for a VW device? Yep. Like I said, very cool mod. B
Would I recommend this to someone looking to push the limits of vaping all together? No. D
Would I recommend this to a veteran that would be angry if it didn't hit above 11watts? Obviously not. F

Looks great. A real treat for the sense of touch/feel/sight/hearing. Love the feel + clicks of the button + wheel.
Vapes great! Love the vape. I don't have to touch the wattage too often, though I still do when my coils flood.
 

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I agree 100 percent! At last someone talks some sense, you drop it and it breaks your fault pure and simple, come on guys for example if I can dropped my Nexus 7 tablet I'm writing this post on right now and it breaks, and do I complain about build quality, of course I don't, instead I would say something like butter fingers that's going to cost you to get it fixed! Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

With new HDD-shock resistance technologies or physical design qualities coming out all of the time, wouldn't you be angry if Samsung neglected that technology when manufacturing your nexus tablet? That is just a different point of view. Of course there is no shock resistance technology for vape gear at this time, but a mod that was built to be rugged enough to not break when dropped would be preferred to a mod that is known to break when dropped, correct? If a mod has vulnerabilities, people should know about it & include it in their reviews or comments of said mod imo. If a technology fringe exists, people expect the more expensive products in the tech world to incorp them.
 
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With new HDD-shock resistance technologies or physical design qualities coming out all of the time, wouldn't you be angry if Samsung neglected that technology when manufacturing your nexus tablet? That is just a different point of view. Of course there is no shock resistance technology for vape gear at this time, but a mod that was built to be rugged enough to not break when dropped would be preferred to a mod that is known to break when dropped, correct? If a mod has vulnerabilities, people should know about it & include it in their reviews or comments of said mod imo. If a technology fringe exists, people expect the more expensive products in the tech world to incorp them.

I see what you're saying, however you as the consumer need to look at a product and honestly evaluate if it meets your needs. Right tool for the right job and all.

If you're going to be constantly looking to push a unit beyond the known operating parameters and abilities of the eVic, buy a Provari. If you're going to be looking for a unit that is going to be more likely to survive multiple drops, knocks, etc, buy a Provari. From a pure durability and performance standpoint, anyone who buys an eVic because they convinced themselves that it's as durable or as high performance oriented as a Provari has no one to blame but themselves. It isn't and it isn't going to be. It is also 1/2 the price of the Provari. If someone is looking for a device that performs well, is well built, is on the edge of vaping technology with options for God knows what from firmware updates, and doesn't require the "tail cap tap dance" just to adjust voltage or wattage, go with the eVic. It's like buying an Acura then complaining that it doesn't off road well or you can't haul dirt with it.
 

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Angry no why should I be, before I buy any product I look over the specification, and look at the price, decide if I can live with any limitations the device may have, dose what the device have to offer me far out way any negatives, I find out as much as I can before I part with my money.

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yeah the mod makers aren't at fault for not making it more durable but we would ultimately like to see more durable mods on the market, especially for 100+ dollars. I got my entire evic kit for under 100 dollars and I am very pleased with it. But we've all seen the movies where the big time executive CEO president of a company decides to put out a product without this or without that, and obviously picturing that in your mind is going to make you angry. They had the ability to do this, or design it with that, and they don't to save money. If they could have made it more durable, you hope that they would. Obviously its up to the consumer to make the decision if it is worth the market price. We just don't want to see manufacturers cutting any corners to save money. No one really wants to see that. Just like, if provape could sell us the provari for a cheaper price tag, ultimately, we'd like that. We'd like a cheaper provari without sacrificing its quality.

Just for fun: Ice cream has an 80 to 90% markup in retail settings. Ice cream parlors enjoy one of the widest margins of profit in the entire US economic system. I would hope that joyetech would not cut corners, and I would hope their design structure stability and price of manufacturign corresponds to the price of their products. That is ultimately up to the customer to decide. If a Mcdonnalds ice cream cone costs 10 cents to make, and costs 1 dollar... great! We are willing to pay that markup because ice cream is fantastic. lol. But if Burger King sold 3 scoops for 1 dollar, and also sold those 3 scoops of ice cream in a drop proof waffle cone BOWL, I would rather go with Burger King than Mcdonnalds. :p A competitive market where consumers are educated and provided options is much better than a product monopoly where the company has all the power. This is why the 2nd, 3rd, etc.. versions of the lavatube clones were progressively more durable. We let them know that their first versions were horrible. lol. But what we would like to see is the 1st versions as close to perfect as possible.
 

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I think we're essentially saying the same thing. What I'm getting at is a few things.....

1. "I dropped my eVic and the top fell off" is the user's fault. The eVic is made to vape, not fall on the floor.
2. "I was vaping using my eVic and the top fell off" is Joyetech's fault.

As far as mark ups, etc, agreed, to a point. Provari puts their effort and money into build quality and overall vape performance. Joyetech/eVic puts their effort into technology, and puts quite a bit into it for 1/2 the price of the Provari. Anyone who says that the UI of a Provari is as good as or better than an eVic is either lying or completely clueless. Anyone who says an eVic is built as well or better than a Provari is in the same boat. Percentages of cost, profit margin, etc aside, we are comparing two devices that ultimately are made to do the same thing and both do it well within their design parameters, but those design parameters are VERY different, and I think both have done a rather good job in meeting their goals.

Now all we need is a Provari build quality and overall performance with an eVic interface and technology........for less than $300 :)
 

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I think we're essentially saying the same thing. What I'm getting at is a few things.....


1. "I dropped my eVic and the top fell off" is the user's fault. The eVic is made to vape, not fall on the floor.
2. "I was vaping using my eVic and the top fell off" is Joyetech's fault.


As far as mark ups, etc, agreed, to a point. Provari puts their effort and money into build quality and overall vape performance. Joyetech/eVic puts their effort into technology, and puts quite a bit into it for 1/2 the price of the Provari. Anyone who says that the UI of a Provari is as good as or better than an eVic is either lying or completely clueless. Anyone who says an eVic is built as well or better than a Provari is in the same boat. Percentages of cost, profit margin, etc aside, we are comparing two devices that ultimately are made to do the same thing and both do it well within their design parameters, but those design parameters are VERY different, and I think both have done a rather good job in meeting their goals.


Now all we need is a Provari build quality and overall performance with an eVic interface and technology........for less than $300 :)


the Darwin?

anyways I dont think the eVic is designed to be dropped. same goes to iPhones. people complain about shuttering glasses duh. even an tank if you hit a wall gonna bend something.
 
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They could of designed it to not have a fragile wheel is all I'm saying. They know its not a disposable cigarette. We don't take out a new one when one burns out. They know we lift it up to our faces 3 thousand times per day. Even I know that now, because the evic TOLD ME SO. lol.

3K a day? And I thought I was a heavy vaper. Highest I ever hit was 1331 in a day.
 

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Somewhere between 3 and 5.

He means volts. With watts, it will tell you what volts your at in the watts setting.
Sooo you just adjust the volts to what your used to and then it'll adjust them for you after that.
With wattage, you just adjust it to your preferences and then your basically good.
Though Ive been changing my watts as much as I change my volts bcuz I have different strengths of juice.
But theoretically, you set the watts to your preference once, and your pretty much good.

I started at 11 watts with my eVic but I'm now down to 8.5 for whatever reason. IDK. still figuring them out.
 
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