Joye problems?

[LM1]

In about two months, I've had frustrating equipment problems. They mostly seem to do with high resistance shorts, opens, etc. They seem to be genuine joye parts, though I'm not real sure I'd detect fakes. The vendor has a very solid reputation on these forums anyway.

Two 1000 mAh ego batteries have gone bad now, possibly in related ways though they showed very different symptoms. On this latest one, the button has been flashing non-stop since the day before yesterday. Fortunately it's not heating up. I took a paper clip and poked at the contacts in case something was misaligned or something, and it didn't help.

The ego charger I have might be iffy and it doesn't seem to always charge a battery. I used a smaller ego battery all day yesterday, but the green light on the charger still says it's fully charged? Except that's also the same green light when nothing's attached. No difference between using the 120v adapter or USB.

I've melted three cartomizers now. The first two may have been related to using them on an auto battery, but this third was on a manual battery.

The vendor has quickly made things right before and I trust they'll do so again once I tell them. But I'm not going to intrude on their holiday in case they feel the need to work on thanksgiving, so I'm going to wait until at least tomorrow to write them about these latest problems. I've not quit analogs completely anyway.

Just I'm seeing a pattern here.... anyone else?

 

[Raynen]

If you want a genuine JOY 510 e-cig, you can find one at cignot.com or litecigusa.net

Don't give up, and I hope this helps!

 

[Automaton]

Hmm... What kind of cartos/atties were you using on them? If it's low resistance, they may be the cause of your problems.

The easiest to find signs of a fake are to look at the design. A genuine Joye eGo has silver accents around the button and on the bottom. If it's gold, it's a fake. The button is kind of see-through but dark on a genuine Joye.

There's other, tricker to find signs, but I'm not 100% sure how to identify them.

But, here's the thing. Joye is one of the better e-cig manufacturers around, but they sometimes send out bad shipments too. The e-cig industry is still relatively new, and these things happen, even with the better companies.

If you trust the supplier and they've treated you well, just shoot them another email when you feel it's appropriate and they should make things right for you. The occasional inconsistencies that are ubiquitous in the e-cig hardware industry are just the reality of a new market, unfortunately.

 

[warbdan]

I thought all Joye batteries had black buttons no matter what color the e-cig was. The atomizers are a little harder to tell. Except the fakes I got! The bridge is almost 1/4" wide in them, it's almost funny.

 

[danielwd]

In about two months, I've had frustrating equipment problems. They mostly seem to do with high resistance shorts, opens, etc. They seem to be genuine joye parts, though I'm not real sure I'd detect fakes. The vendor has a very solid reputation on these forums anyway.

Two 1000 mAh ego batteries have gone bad now, possibly in related ways though they showed very different symptoms. On this latest one, the button has been flashing non-stop since the day before yesterday. Fortunately it's not heating up. I took a paper clip and poked at the contacts in case something was misaligned or something, and it didn't help.

The ego charger I have might be iffy and it doesn't seem to always charge a battery. I used a smaller ego battery all day yesterday, but the green light on the charger still says it's fully charged? Except that's also the same green light when nothing's attached. No difference between using the 120v adapter or USB.

I've melted three cartomizers now. The first two may have been related to using them on an auto battery, but this third was on a manual battery.

The vendor has quickly made things right before and I trust they'll do so again once I tell them. But I'm not going to intrude on their holiday in case they feel the need to work on thanksgiving, so I'm going to wait until at least tomorrow to write them about these latest problems. I've not quit analogs completely anyway.

Just I'm seeing a pattern here.... anyone else?

This sounds very similar to issues I'm having. I'm not getting the vapor production I once did from this batch of batteries and atomizers I have. The batteries have gold contacts with what I would describe as a concave end, which other vendors I have purchased from, like Innovapor and others, have silver contacts on the batteries with no indention at all on the contact. The Innovapor merchandise always worked well, but I think their prices went up so I started searching for alternatives. Looks like I shouldn't of.

I'm suspicious about this latest shipment, but I'm not going to mention the vendor.

 

[Automaton]

I thought all Joye batteries had black buttons no matter what color the e-cig was. The atomizers are a little harder to tell. Except the fakes I got! The bridge is almost 1/4" wide in them, it's almost funny.

All the 510's have a black button, yes. eGo's have a dark grey-ish transparent button.

 

[Stosh]

The ego charger I have might be iffy and it doesn't seem to always charge a battery. I used a smaller ego battery all day yesterday, but the green light on the charger still says it's fully charged? Except that's also the same green light when nothing's attached. No difference between using the 120v adapter or USB.

I have standard 650 mAh eGo batteries, and have observed some interesting things.
The light on the USB charger wasn't always turning red when I know it needed to charge.

What I have found works for me, first take a slightly damp paper towel and clean the
battery contact. Then plug in the charger, light will turn green, THEN screw in the battery.
If you've been dripping or using a leaky carto this is a must IMHO.

My experience also has been that the USB on my PC will NOT always provide enough
power to properly charge, and a couple little A/C to USB adapter were not much better.
I invested in a 4 port USB hub rated at 2.1 amps and the charger works first time
every time. YMMV

I've had to charge my battery at least once a day and have not had problems but
I may have just been lucky.

 

[LM1]

These have the correct buttons described. Gold contacts on everything. but all the trim is silver. Inscribed on the bottom with the vendor's logo. The cartomizers I'm using are specific for ego (though they work well on 510 too - just they look funny). Far as I know, they are all the usual stock parts, no LR, etc.

Which apparently means that this joye equipment is running at a high failure rate on different items. My two 650 mAh batts are okay, so far as are two 510s that I hardly use. Fortunately, I'd already realized that I might need a second charger and had ordered it. It came right after I wrote that previous post. It's working, so far.

Yes I cleaned up contacts on the batts and charger, that made no difference. My 650 mAh that didn't work on the bad charger works fine on the new one. So far.

This is really discouraging. It's STILL flashing.

 

[mvtc33]

DO you get original one? If still facing problem then I will suggest you should contact to their customer service.

 

[Automaton]

Your eGo sounds like it is most likely genuine. Vendors that order high enough quantities can get their logo put on the bottom of an eGo by Joye. It's normal for the contacts in the threading to be copper/gold colored - as long as the aesthetic accents are silver, it sounds legit. Sounds like you just managed to get something out of a bad shipment that slipped past.

I had an eGo die the slow, weird death you mention (but that was my own fault - used an LR on it). Sounds like the switch might have gone bad. The mosfets on proprietary batteries in general are delicate creatures. Auto batteries are also not known for their reliability as a rule.

The switch is the most common weak point on any e-cig. There is now an increasing degree of consistency with good companies, but things do happen.

I hope your vendor continues to work with you. Sounds like you've had some bad luck, but try not to let it discourage you. E-cigs can be consistent. They have been for me (apart from the one I abused, heh), and many others.

 

[mistinthewoods]

. If it's gold, it's a fake.

I've had pretty good luck with my "fake", gold banded Rivas. The last two kits I bought I paid $30.00 each for. They're 901 native with two 750 mAh batts, Two atties, USB charger and wall adapter. I bought two because they were so cheap. Never even opened the second one.
I've found that in the ecig world the rule is not necessarily "you get what you pay for".
Hi again Cassie.

 

[LM1]

Mlle Nomad, thanks for the encouragement. I had no idea there were mosfets in there. It seems like overkill circuitry when a few diodes and capacitors should do it all, but now it makes more sense what's been happening. I should get my ground strap out when I use these maybe? LOL. Fortunately, the vendor has a stellar reputation and I should be fine working with them. I just didn't want to add to their workload on a holiday if I'm not desperate.

BTW, thanks ever so much for your newbie videos, they have been invaluable to me, and I'm sure many, many others.

Mistinthewoods, yes, it's like that a lot these days. You don't always get what you pay for, that's for sure!

 

[Automaton]

LM1 - Yup. On any given e-cig, the switch is the most likely Achilles Heel. I wonder if it's got something to do with cost, personally. Because I know the only reason a lot of manufacturers use noise-activated switches in auto batteries is because it's cheaper than vacuum-activated auto switches, which are better.

If your supplier has done right by you so far, I wouldn't worry. Faulty units happen, but it's the exception.

Thank you, I'm glad the videos helped.

Mist - Yeah, not all "fakes" are bad. I have a "fake" 510 atty (sold as Joye, but it clearly isn't) that works quite well and is now about 3 months old and still kickin'. But, other "fakes" are about as useful as a paperweight. It totally depends on who's making it.

I wouldn't worry too much about buying a "fake" made by a company with a decent reputation over a Joye due to price, as long as it's properly disclosed by the vendor as not being a Joye product, and who it is that actually made it. The only real issue is when vendors lie about it. Then you have no clue what you're getting.

And hi.

 

[LM1]

I had yet another cartomizer melt today. While I was showing it to my BFF, thinking it would be good for her husband. bad timing! Of the original 5 cartomizers I got, I only have one left. It's broken too, but that was my fault. I cracked the plastic accidentally stepping on it, but some first aid tape to seal the crack is keeping it useable.

Fortunately I had an atomizer and several filled cartridges with me, so I wasn't out of luck on a long drive in her car to go riding. Vaping on a nice horse on a pretty trail on gorgeous day is awesome! No fire danger either

Mlle Nomad, I just checked it and my ego auto seems to be vacuum, not sound. However I had stopped using it thinking that's how I was burning up cartomizers, that the auto battery was turning on by itself. But the last two melted cartomizers were on a manual ego battery. I know faulty units happen, just I seem to be getting more than my fair share in such a short time. That's why I was wondering if others were seeing this kind of failure rate. I really don't want to have to change systems, since this one works well for me when it's working, but if this keeps up, I'll have to.

 

[LM1]

p.s. this thing is STILL flashing, LOL. Since Wednesday night!

 

[Automaton]

Wow. That's a hell of a battery. Mine finally ran outta juice after a day and a half when it started flashing like that. I'm impressed.