Juice and Oxidizing

[LongDraw]

Hello,

I wanted to see whether it would be more cost effective to order straight PG or VG from a DIY website like Wizard Labs (I think about 3 dollars for 60 ml), rather then using my flavored/vendor juices when I oxidize mesh wicks.

Does anyone know whether it would make a difference? I wasn't sure whether the flavorings is what adds to the oxidization process or if straight pg/vg would be just as effective.

 

[cricque]

I think straight PG/VG would just work fine, since thats the main compound. Flavor is based on PG/alcohol anyway. I never oxidized with a flavored juice so far and have been using plain PG/VG mix with a tad of wodka in it. That way I am sure there is no flavor at all that might get stuck

 

[LongDraw]

I think straight PG/VG would just work fine, since thats the main compound. Flavor is based on PG/alcohol anyway. I never oxidized with a flavored juice so far and have been using plain PG/VG mix with a tad of wodka in it. That way I am sure there is no flavor at all that might get stuck

Thank you, that's what I was thinking but good to get some additional thoughts. Now just gotta decide whether to order some or look for it locally.

 

[ninfreak]

i don't use anything but the torch to oxidize. no quenching, no dripping juice, it is not needed at all. people really overthink this. been using genesis for a long time now......all you need is a torch, if you think you need more you are all wrong

 

[ZooKansas]

Just got some #400 SS mesh and want to use it for making a wick in my Phoenix RBA and vivi-nova tank. Have NO idea on how to properly oxidize it. I don't have a torch, just a trusty Bic lighter. Can someone please point me in the right direction on how to properly oxidize the mesh? Do I need to get a special lighter (torch), and if so, is there a cheap option? Any and all advice greatly appreciated!

 

[ninfreak]

you can use a lighter but wouldn't recommend it. harborfreight sells a nice cheap onehttp://www.harborfreight.com/micro-torch-42099.html as far as oxizing the wick....there is a full forum section here on ecf about it. it is amazingly simple and people like to overcomplicate it.

i cut a piece of mesh(i don't even measure anymore) while unrolled torch the end(i do about 1/4 inch) that will be in contact with the coils and the whole length of the wick. roll wick up tightly, torch the entire wick again, shove in tank. if you do a search for frost wick method that is where i learned it from. it is the easiest and best way to do it.

 

[LongDraw]

Just got some #400 SS mesh and want to use it for making a wick in my Phoenix RBA and vivi-nova tank. Have NO idea on how to properly oxidize it. I don't have a torch, just a trusty Bic lighter. Can someone please point me in the right direction on how to properly oxidize the mesh? Do I need to get a special lighter (torch), and if so, is there a cheap option? Any and all advice greatly appreciated!

As the above poster mentions everyone has their one ways. Recently I got a cobra rebuildable atomizer. After making several wicks what I have found works for me is a 42mm long by 45 mm wide piece of 400 mesh. The side that will be laying on top I fold over slightly and flat, then I start rolling from the other end. Once I get this tight enough to fit in the wick hole for the cobra I use my gas stove. The last wick I made the top half with the coil I oxidized, quenched in water, oxidized, quenced in water then oxidized again. Then I would put some juice on that end and light on fire and let burn out, doing that 2 or 3 times. I made the decision to then heat the other end once over the stove and not quench. I then put this into the cobra wick hole and build a coil.

I flatten the one end to reduice any lose wires shorting out my coil. I follow the above based on you tube vids and many threads here. A great thread to read is http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/330407-500-ss-mesh-104.html

By no means is the above, or anyone elses the only way, find what works for you. The above is what worked for me.

The point of oxidizing is to build a layer so the metal mesh does not come into contact with the metal coil, otherwise this will cause a short. Thats why even after doing the above you have to play with the coil some and move it around if it is touching an unoxidized part of the wick (also if to close to other coils and such.)

Hope this all makes sense and good luck. I have had a lot of fun building mesh wicks for the cobra and u shaped ones for the vivi novas.

 

[ZooKansas]

Thanks ninfreak and Jacob! Really appreciate the insight. I'm going be doing some experimenting with it over the weekend. I tried doing a vertical coil SS wick earlier today with a regular lighter and ended up with a really black, charred wick that was not working so well in the Phoenix; low vapor, low flavor, etc. Think there was just too much carbon build up on it.

 

[ninfreak]

ill stop before i get myself banned lol, but the whole quenching thing annoys me, it is not needed at all. another of the "overthinking" crowd.

 

[Turbo]

ill stop before i get myself banned lol, but the whole quenching thing annoys me, it is not needed at all. another of the "overthinking" crowd.

I've also been using a Genisis for a long time and sure, quenching is not needed, but it does add some firmness to the wick that I like. I've also done the 'jack frost' method and yes, that works too.

I did the quench 3x, burn 3x being a creature of habit ever since 'raidy' put it forth. Then came the cig paper, jack frost, etc, etc methods. They all work but some steps are not needed, sure.

Bottom line for the OP, if it works, use it, if not (or even if it does) try other methods and keep which method you like best. Some people even combine some of each.

 

[cricque]

I only made a few ss wicks in combination with silica and cotton. And I just read up alot on SS mesh wick, and I bought a cheap kitchen torch for making "creme brulee". Its easy, you can't knock it over easily etc. But it might be overkill, it does not bother me at all. I just burn the mesh (without rolling it first), soak, burn again, soak. Then I roll, burn, soak, roll, burn, soak. Get out pg/vg/alcohol mix. Burn, soak, burn, soak. And even from the first one for in my phoenix it worked out great. And I am always like if i got something working, i'll just keep doing it like this, unless it can be done easier/faster and I have the same result. But adding a burn more or less, isn't really going to make it 5 minutes faster. I don't even consider it like a chore or something. It's like making my own liquid. It's just something I make time for in my busy schedule. I even find it relaxing