Just another looking for advice on good ecig

[Samakq]

I recently started researching ecigs online as an alternative, and was surprised as there are loads to choose from and im not totally sure where to start.

I came across Electric Cigarette, Electric Cigarette Online, Electronic Cigarettes

the starter kit was in my price range, my size, my colour, had flavours i wanted and was a 3 peice. Champion...but i cant find any reviews or mentions of it anywhere online? has anyone had any experience, or could some recommend something...

Looking for something small, black, comes in range of different flavors, including ones without nicotine for occasional use and in 3 peices. Any advice would be great.

 

[leftfeild]

Woah woah... avoid that site at all costs. Overpriced is one word for it... Bear with me, it's been a while since I looked at pricing in the UK. I'll get you something worked up in a minute. For now, here's a reputable vendor list for the UK and discount codes:

ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK - Recommended & new suppliers list

ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK - Discount codes.

 

[bnrkwest]

If you are looking for a slim style ecig, the best out there are Volt, Halo G6 and I think Bloog. Just check the forum suppliers section. I have used Halo G6 and Volt. I suggest the sealed batts and manuals for best vape but you could get one of each automatic and manual. Get the longest length for best battery life. You will want to upgrade in time but these are great starters and you always need backups anyway Have fun! bnrk

 

[leftfeild]

Ok, here's my suggestion for the UK. Get yourself this kit: The Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit £34.95 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Riva 1100 Kit Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid (use "allabout" for 10% off!)

It is THE most reccommended ecig and for the price of ONE tiny ecig off that site before, you're getting two full ecigs that are a ton better for so many reasons.

I'd also take these: Boge 510 Standard Resistance (5) £5.79 - Vaping Spares - Cartomisers Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

Cartomisers are better to start out with than atomisers. Just fill with about 20 drops of liquid and you're good to go for an hour or so vaping a lot. They will fit the rivas just fine

Next, just look out some "juice" you want. There's a lot of sites on that master list, just look for "e-liquid" or similar and try out flavours and strengths to put in your ecig.

Any questions?

Edit: check out the little 510 if form is an issue http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/joye-510-starter-kit~1

Just need to grab those 510 cartomisers and fill it with whatever liquid takes your fancy. Can't get any easier and still cheaper than the first site you were looking at.

Also, the Kr808d-1 at jacvapour is likely the best "small" ecig out there: http://www.jacvapour.com/

You can just get cartos and things there if you don't want to fill but it's a lot cheaper to do it yourself, by a long way.

 

[Rockzwife]

I just started vaping not too long ago myself and have already got quite a few ecigs already. I would recommend the ego DCT tank from Easy Vaping as a nice starter kit. It is a pass thru charger, and I think that it only costs around $40.00. Its a really good kit to start off with. I got an ego to start with, not this specific kit, my step daughter got this kit though and she loves it. I have a silver bullet with a kick, 2 ego-t's a Joytech ego 18650, a bolt and a Provari

 

[Reidus]

Samacq,
First, welcome to ECF! Next, before you go out and buy a PV, take some time and figure out your needs and/or wants.
1. How much do you smoke a day? I smoked 2+ packs/day and the 808s (that the size of the device you were looking at) just didn't cut it for me (though they did get me down to around 10/day). That said, I think they'd work perfectly for my mother.
2. Convenience. One of the best things about the 808 kits is that they have a wide variety of pre-filled cartridges or cartomizers. Some people prefer this convenience to having to fill their own. Personally, I find I enjoy filling my cartridges and and have more flexibility with juices, etc. Another thing to consider with convenience: with the 808s you don't have a lot of options. You basically order the kit, cartridge refills and potentially blank cartridges that you can fill with juice from other sites. You don't have to worry about things like LR, clearomizers, vv, etc. It's a simpler approach that might be appropriate for some people.
3. Price. As most of the people on this forum will tell you, the 808's are overpriced compared to buying a more advanced system. That said, see 2 above. I used V2 (a 808 system) for 1 month. I got my E-power yesterday. I've already spent as much on it as I did for the entire month on my V2s. Of course, most of that is trying out juices. Do I regret it? Not one bit.

I guess it really boils down to: Do you want this as a tool to quit smoking, or as a new hobby? For me, vaping is my new passion. For Mom, I expect it would simply be a tool to quit those nasty things.

 

[Samakq]

I forgot to mention i would also like something with a PCC? which is why...£40 for an ecig which looks and has what i want with 2 batt 2 atomisers doesnt seem that bad. also with 25 carts. it seems a steal compared to alot of other brands? iunno. I suppose im looking for something mainstream brand. like Skycig or nucig, but these 2 arent ticking all the boxes?

 

[leftfeild]

Skycig or nucig

I hate to break it to you but skycig and nucig aren't mainstream. They're overpriced and pretty much a scam, selling very old models are extortionate pricing.

If you want the small ecig, I don't think you'll get a fairer deal than at jacvapour.

PCC kits here Sport and V1P full electronic cigarette starter kit Bloog UK

Ok, it's a lot to take in but here's why this one is the "best". It's the most updated small ecig model. It's kr808d-1 which is widely changeable with other heating elements and some bigger ecigs. It's a 3.6v regulated battery which is better than the 510 ones which is 3.3v. It has the largest capacity battery for its size and class and it regarded as simply the best quality slim ecig out there right now and has been for a year.

For anyone not familiar with jacvapour, they're selling the same as volt, halo g6 and bloog - all reputable vendors with good products.

If you absolutely want mainstream and cigarette looking, it pretty much has to be the kr808d-1 for performance. Nothing else can stand up to it no matter how much they charge or pretend it's better.

Use "ECR69" for I think a 20% discount off jacvapour too. I can't see anything better at the moment for price to what you're actually getting ratio.

I'd still nudge you to take a riva as it's way more power (don't need a pcc when one battery lasts over 8 hours) for the price but it is up to you and I'll respect that.

Here's a size comparison:

The models there are the Ego T and the kr808d-1 on jacvapour. The riva will only be a little longer than the ego is. It's barely bigger, but you get over 4 times the run time on one battery and a higher voltage, AND the ability to use low resistance gear with it.

 

[Reidus]

Most of the major vendors provide a PCC as an option, or as part of the premium package. I vaped V2s before I converted (see my earlier post). Rather than shelling out the money for the pcc, I got a soft case and a 3rd battery. BTW, if you go with one of the 808 systems, you definitely want at least 2 batteries, preferably 3 (or more). Depending on how frequently you vape, they generally have a battery life of only a few hours. The reason for the 3rd battery is so when one of the batteries dies (and they will) you aren't stuck wanting a smoke while your only battery's charging. My case held up to 4 batteries and 4 cartos.
Another thing: I greatly prefer 2 piece systems (battery and cartomizer) to the 3 piece system (battery, atomizer and cartridge). Before V2, I tried the Blu (mostly because of the standard PCC, lol). I found the vapor production of the Blu was hit or miss; some cartridges were great, some pitiful. The cartomizers (or cartos) tend to be more reliable and consistent.

 

[Samakq]

I probably only use it 4-5 times a day. I think im just going to go for the simplist offer to get me going and trial what i think. then move on to different types. I like the look of the jacvapor, especially the pcc, but would prefer to get something that has a high amount of cartriges to start with and easy to use and maintain hence why im looking at an 808 with 3 pieces. and 25 carts. then i can decide whether i want to refil what i have, or buy a new one... :S Iunno. think its just a case of spending like £40 on something...and see where it goes thanks for the advice though.

 

[leftfeild]

I remembered these guys: Creator Turbo Set - silver - Creator/Volt Sets - E-Cig Starter Kits

It's the same model. They're sold out of the pcc kits but you can pick up a two set of silver kr808d-1's for under £20. Can't ask better than that. I literally don't know anyone else in the UK selling these models. If you youtube search for "volt reviews" you'll see they're really highly reccommended despite their size and there's nothing of the same size that compares.

Also, don't think you're stuck with the heating element. The batteries are the expensive part. Once you have the whole kit you can buy a 901 atomiser seperately if you want and just use it with the good batteries you have and it's a lot cheaper than a whole kit. A lot of parts are interchangeable, so don't feel that you're stuck with one or the other.

If you want to do this ultra cheap to test the water, you can get the disposeable from tesco or I think semi-chem has them now too. Maybe other places have them. It'd be like £8 just to see if it's for you instead of £20 - 40 if you're still not sure. Just bear in mind the disposeables wont be as good as a decent ecig.

Avoid free trials at any cost. They are far from free and 99% of the time they're going to constantly bill you for random stuff you didn't sign up for, upwards of £80 a month and it's almost impossible to cancel. No free trial, whatever you do.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Welcome to ECF! The most important thing to consider, IMO, is to get one you will use right away. Failing that, none of this other stuff will make much difference. For that reason I strongly recommend following leftfeild's suggestion of going with the 2-piece (cartomizer/battery) system rather than the 3-piece (atomizer/cartridge/battery) setup. The cartomizer ("carto") combines atomizer & cartridge in one unit, requires a lot less fiddling and hold a lot more liquid.

Regarding the numbers, the "510" and "KR808-D1" designate the battery connection/threading. There are other number designations but these two are by far the most popular, with the most options available. For now, if you require a cig-sized PV I'd suggest looking closely at the KR808-D1 models as well as the 510. I've never used them personally but the KR8s get very favorable reviews from lots of folks here on the Forum. I honestly wouldn't concern myself with what I'll be vaping a month or two from now, just about finding something I can start learning from ASAP & begin this exciting journey. Read all you can, ask all the questions you have, get a PV & some juice & prepare to be amazed.

Best wishes, Blessings & Happy Vaping!

 

[leftfeild]

You could use these 901 atomisers on the kr808d-1 since it's a manual from the ivapour site, it's alright to do: Atomizers

Just pick up extra 808 cartomiser packs and some liquid. Maybe £5 for 5 cartomisers that would last a few weeks each.

Liquids are also not overly expensive: Product catalogue - Items - www.vapourworld.co.uk

You can get like 50ml of liquid for £10. 50ml will last you a long time if you don't use it that often and you can choose any liquid flavour you want. Buying the cartomisers prefilled is a lot more expensive than filling your own. You can also reuse the cartomisers that run out that came with the batteries. They're not a one use item - they can last up to two weeks each.

In the long run, you save a lot. Really, you just need the batteries then you can mix and match any heating elements that work with it for a lot cheaper. If you want a three piece, it's just £5 more for an atomiser to use with your batteries, not £40 for a whole new kit if that makes sense.

 

[DedTV]

The Skycig or nucig aren't mainstream brands. They're just heavily marketed because they need to market themselves as they're over priced and shoddy. Good ecigs are marketed by word of mouth and the Kgo, Ego-C and Smokeless Image Volt or X2s are widely recommended as the best starter e-cigs out there. And for good reason.
It'd be far better to pay a little extra for something that works than to try and save a few bucks and end up having to buy something else in 2 weeks when you find out why people recommend the other stuff.

I prefer the X2s myself because they're passthrough and use a mini-usb connection and you can find mini-USB chargers everywhere cheap so I never have to worry about being stuck with a dead batt so long as I'm near a computer, wall outlet or my car. The SI carts are excellent as well (prefilled or blank). And you can get them in automatic which I still prefer over having to hit a button.

If you're absolutely determined to get a minicig (I was the same way starting out), I'd recommend you get a SI standard starter kit and a Passthrough. I started out with mini's since they were what I was used to with analogs. But battery life is a big issue. I was chain vaping when I started and would burn through mini batts in a third of the time it took to recharge them.
Might not be as good for you in the UK as shipping costs are a bit expensive (I ran an estimate on a mini starter kit on their site and it was about $11 for first class to Rotherham) and I don't know if there's any customs issues to deal with in the UK with ecigs. If that's a problem, the Kgo and Ego-C are available all over the place and you should be able to find a more local supplier.

 

[phenom5]

Like many of the above posts, I would highly recommend an Ego kit. Slightly more expensive that many of the "starter" kits, but less expensive than buying a starter kit, then buying an Ego kit.

The smaller PVs are great in terms of the size, and feel being similar to a cigarette. Not so great in terms of battery life, and overall vape experience.

Not familiar with the UK suppliers, but an Ego is totally worth it IMO. Also, despite what you might think, give a manual battery a shot.