Just got back onto the e-cigs seriously, questions about vaporgod juices, vamo and protank

[Bkag]

I have been a long time casual vaper on standard 510s for a few years now but have finally taken the plunge and quit smoking and bought myself a vamo and a couple of protanks. For the few weeks I have had it i have been vaping rockstar vapor e liquids some of which have been good some which haven't, this brings me to my first question.

I placed an order with vaporgod and got tobacco, arctic wolf, green apple and strawberry all 60/40 and all 26mg. The rockstar vapor liquids I have are 16mg not sure on the pg/vg ratio but they are very pleasant just without enough throat hit and not enough craving kick which is why I opted to up the nic content for this order. After trying all of these liquids, they are all un-vapable to me, even with the vamo set to 3w they taste terrible and burn! It is not the vamo because I switched tanks to the tank still containing the rockstar liquid and it was fine and it's not the tank because after finishing that tank I filled it with the vaporgod liquid and it was the same story; so, I have to conclude that it's the liquid. Does upping the nicotine level really have that much of an effect? Or is there something I am missing?

My second question is as follows: randomly today I was attaching a protank to the vamo and the threads started jumping, the other protank still grips but I cannot figure out what is causing the other one to skip. I can't see any damage to the threads on the protank base and it grips up till the halfway point. I have always felt that the vamo threads are very loose and maybe the actual fitting has stretched slightly. Is getting an airflow connector the best way to go?

 

[Hulamoon]

It really sounds like you scorched the atty by tuning up too high. And once those fibers are scorched, that's pretty much the end of it. What ohms is the tank? (ie 1.8/2.2/2.4 etc). I'm sure someone will jump in with better responses and certainly an answer to your second question. Welcome!

 

[Bkag]

Thank you for the welcome! I have tried both a 1.8ohm atty and a 2.2ohm atty, I don't think I fried the atty though, I started at 3 watts and worked my way up. I am going to go dig up an old 510 and see if the liquids taste the same though that.

 

[Hulamoon]

Smacks head, Why didn't I think of that! That's a good idea Bkag. Let us know how it goes.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Yup time to clean the bejesus out of the heads or replace them

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...455181-clearomizer-maintenance-questions.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...932-cleaning-eroll-atomizers-carts-batts.html

youtube has a WEALTH of information on it as well!
clean protank - YouTube

You have to clean them regularly...I even go so far is once I drain the juice...give em a good solid rinsing and blowing out 3x then let dry

 

[Bkag]

One of the atomizers I tried was freshly dry burned and cleaned, unfortunately I couldn't find a charged up 510 but I will give that a try tomorrow. I did mix in some of the rockstar vapor liquid into the existing tank of vaporgod liquid and it calmed it down a lot so it's leading me to believe it is down to the liquid. Maybe it needs some steeping or maybe the nicotine content is just way too high for me, I just can't see how anyone could vape this liquid without an iron throat and a steel set of lungs!

 

[Hulamoon]

Are they steeped? (ie caps off two days, shake occasionally, caps back on, leave a week, try. No good? Leave another week and so on). I can't say I'm familiar with the brand. How many did you used to smoke? Normally too much nicotine might speed your heartbeat, give you a headache and make you feel nauseous so it seems to still be an issue with scorched wicks, and/or not-so-good, or unsteeped liquid. PG increases throat hit, so maybe try a higher PG ratio (ie 80/20 or 70/30). Just thoughts.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi

Be careful with the Vamo threads, they are known to be delicate. If you visit the Vamo sub-forum you can read about how other owners are handling the problem. The version one Protank also has known problems with the base. One of mine is bent and others have had the connector snap off. These are worst case scenarios, but something to be aware of.

Cheers!

 

[Bkag]

So I tried the liquid in the 510 and it didnt produce much vapor at all, almost none whatsoever. The liquid had only been left top off for about 6 hours but would that have that much of an effect

 

[Hulamoon]

I don't think so Bkag. Steeping can have a big impact on flavor but high(er) VG = vapor.

Check your order form or the bottle to see the PG/VG ratio (or is it from a vendor who keeps such things "proprietary" and a big trade secret)? I guess the key at this point is that it did NOT taste burnt, so for the first question, it does sound like you need to try and clean the original wick and atty, or replace it.

I know money is a big deal to all of us, but try ordering some sampler sized from the more popular vendors - Ahlusion, Heathers Heavenly Vapes, Mount Baker Vapor and others that may be recommended to you. After all it could just be that juice isnt doing it for you....

 

[Bkag]

I don't think so Bkag. Steeping can have a big impact on flavor but high(er) VG = vapor.

Check your order form or the bottle to see the PG/VG ratio (or is it from a vendor who keeps such things "proprietary" and a big trade secret)? I guess the key at this point is that it did NOT taste burnt, so for the first question, it does sound like you need to try and clean the original wick and atty, or replace it.

I know money is a big deal to all of us, but try ordering some sampler sized from the more popular vendors - Ahlusion, Heathers Heavenly Vapes, Mount Baker Vapor and others that may be recommended to you. After all it could just be that juice isnt doing it for you....

It was 40%vg 60%pg, I mixed the strawberry rockstar vapor liquid (16mg) with the new stuff at around an 80/20 ratio and it has the perfect throat hit and vapor production. I think it's just that vaporgod liquids and me don't go together too well, disappointing because I have seen pretty good reviews, but I guess I can just keep them around to add throat hit to any liquids which are lacking. Thanks for all your help!

 

[ssbrownbear]

Something of a newbie here - my local vape store's samples are in the higher nicotine range (I vape at 6mg consistently). I find the samples almost un-vapable, very harsh, nothing but burn. I can only attribute it to the higher nic level because in a couple of instances, I've taken a chance based on the flavor name or what little taste I can get under the burn, and it's turned out to be really good at 6 mg.

 

[BlueMoods]

Hmm it sounds like Vaporgods might have gotten your PG/VG backwards. Most often it's listed PG first and if so, then it's just too much PG for you. it does increase throat hit some, so does nicotine so, if they sent 60/40 PG/VG at the higher nic, that would explain it.

 

[Hulamoon]

PG = throat hit and flavor (though some VG juices are every bit as flavorful, but not all). VG = smooth hit and clouds. Nicotine can increase throat hit. At no time should the juice taste burnt though (unless you chose a liquid that was originally described as like burnt rubber tires of course...) .

If it is tasting burnt, it may be because of a couple of things.

- allow time for the juice to absorb into the wicks before inhaling, you may need to tilt the PV a little for that to happen.

- Give a new clearomizer/carto 15 minutes to absorb if you're using it and filling it for the first time, or after a cleaning.

- A fairly easy mistake to make is vaping like smoking - several inhales in a very short period of time. That may not allow for the wicks to re-absorb fast enough and will give you a burnt taste. Try and vape like grandad used to smoke his pipe, vs. the "quick cigarette behind the bicycle shed" lol. Take 2-3 slow inhales, release button, roll round in mouth, then inhale if you do, don't if you don't. Expel through nose and mouth.

If the juice does taste burnt after all that, then you may have fried the atty and its fibres. A cleaning may help get rid of the burn, but the easiest thing to do at that point is to replace the atty. Hope that helps someone.

 

[Struge Labs]

Definitely go with the protank 2 so you can take apart and clean. Also it is all threads and no glue.. I bought 4 pro tanks right before they release the protank 2 and one is taped up because of leaking

 

[Jffdi7]

Hi everyone...im a newbie to vaping...im using a ego v v2 with a protank, the first version. I ordered some liquid from mr.vape which taste realllly good..kiwi strawberry 50/50. I would like to make more vapor clouds and keep the flavor...what pg/vg ratio do u guys recommend? Im scared to order anything other then 50/50 since i really like the taste but i see people on youtube creating huge clouds of smoke..would changing the ratio help? Thanks