Just Got My 510 And No Throat Hit???

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Nicfits

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So I take it then I should NOT be dripping juice directly into the atomizer? I tried dripping a few drops onto the atomozier coil in the middle, and then a couple drops around the bottom resoirvoir around the coil. Is that wrong? Sorry, I'm a rookie with this!


You can drip safely with a 510 manual. The gurgling is coming from the fluid leaking down to near the air holes. Air passing through the fluid. The gurlging will go away on its own providing you don't excessively drip. I have found that the only problem with over dripping is that I can suck some of it up and into my mouth. I don't drip with my 510s though. I have found that I don't need to.
If you do drip, stick with just two to three drops, If I drip, I drip on the bridge/coil itslef, any excess will run down into the cup anyway. as along as the atty is clean and not gunked up it will wick it back up.

As for the question about atty life. I have not had a 510 atty die on me. I do find that they get gunked after several days of heavy vaping. I rotate them out and soak them in isopropyl alcohol/white vinegar bath for about 24 hours. then give them a good rinsing with hot water. If they are still not as clean as I would like, I drop them in a pot of boiling water for about 3 minutes. Then after they are thoroughly rinsed, If I am in a hurry for it, I will dry it out with a hair dryer. Otherwise I set it battery side down on a paper towel and let it dry that way until I need it again.
 

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So I take it then I should NOT be dripping juice directly into the atomizer? I tried dripping a few drops onto the atomozier coil in the middle, and then a couple drops around the bottom resoirvoir around the coil. Is that wrong? Sorry, I'm a rookie with this!

A couple of drops on the coil is fine, (as long as you are using manual batteries) but you don't want to drip in the bottom reservoir. That's another reason it's gurgling so much. Stand your atomizer on end tonight so it drains the liquid out overnight. Then put a couple drops directly on the coil in the morning and start vaping!
 
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A cart depending how much batting is in it, no two are the same. Will hold anywhere from 9 to 15 drops. Also drops are different sizes, depends on the size of the dropper. I use a syringe to fill mine from the bottom up. You can get them from feed and grain stores, and vets offices, or you can order some from Johnson Creek. You will want one that is no smaller than a20 gauge. 18 Gauge is better. Otherwise just work the batting to get the air out as you fill the cart.
 

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I don't want to hear this about the 510.................based on all the positive reviews, I broke down and bought one today for my wife....................I hope it lives up to the hype.....

It will, El. The 510 rocks for vapor and throat hit!

After your wife vapes off the factory charge, make sure you follow the 1st battery charge instructions: charge 8 hours - vape 20 minutes - charge 1 more hour. After that 1st charge, the batts only need an hour or so to charge.

I have no idea why someone would jump into complaining about no throat hit from a 510 and then say by the way...I didn't follow the instructions for the 1st charge. 8-o

Anyone considering buying a 510 will then have doubts just like you expressed.

I better stop now because I'm highly annoyed at the OP. If he had followed fully the 1st charge instructions and then didn't get a throat hit and then posted about it... now that would be a different story.

Some people - go figure!
 

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OK Mamu. Explain to me now what is going on then? I charged the battery 8 full hours. I've tried 5 carts. 2 Marlb high prefilled (that came with the set). I've tried 3 blank carts, that I filled with my own juice, including Watermelon 18mg, Marlb 18mg and Hilton 36mg, all from eastmall. I have 5 atomizers, 3 that I bought separately, and 2 that came with the kit. After trying, in every possible combination, ALL 5 atomizers, and ALL 5 of the aforementioned carts, I still get ZERO throat hit. NONE. I get tons of vapor, but ZERO taste, ZERO throat hit, and above all that, after 2 or 3 puffs, I get a plastic-y taste? In at least 3 out of the 5 carts that I've tried? You make a good point about me making a claim without following the instructions. I am without question, guilty as charged. But now, I have followed the instructions to a tee, as well as people's suggestions on here and I'm having the same, if not WORSE results. Mamu, feel free to chime in, and anyone else that may have a thought?
 

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I bought the 510 because of the rave reviews on the throat hit with the manual switch so I feel for ya if you're not getting a throat hit after the 1st full charge of the battery has been completed.

I have a Dura-C from janty and a 510 from eastmall and both of them are awesome with the throat hit.

Is the vapor you inhale warm? Does your mouthpiece get warm when you inhale? Does the atty get very warm when you inhale? Have you tried taking a good long inhale and see if that helps?

You are using the manual switch battery, right? The one with the button on it?

Some 510s come with an auto switch battery and if you're using the auto switch battery that would most likely be the problem.

On another thread a person was stating he didn't get a throat hit with his 510, but he was using the auto switch battery and not the manual switch battery.

If you are using the manual switch battery, then I have no idea why you aren't getting a throat hit.
 

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I've had some atomizers hit great right out of the box . . . but for most, I wind up having to vape through the primer and then suffer for several hours of so-so vapor until the atomizer breaks in.

It's frustrating, I know. :mad: Don't give up on the 510 yet. There's a reason why so many folks are so happy with it. ;)
 

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Oh believe me! I certainly don't want to give up on this! I am just thoroughly frustrated right now, as you guys can probably imagine! Haha. Mamu, I am using the manual battery. The atty DEFINITELY gets warm, and then hot. But as far as the vapor I inhale feeling warm? No. I can't even tell that it's going into my mouth/throat. The mouthpiece doesn't get hot either. And JustJulie, the weird thing is,, I'm getting LOADS of vapor,,, more than with my KR808D-1, but I'm just getting zero throat hit and zero taste, except for a burnt plastic taste after only about 2-5 hits. I can't understand it. I'm using the same liquid I just bought on used and unused KR808D-1 carts, and I can definitely feel the throat hit and the taste of whatever liquid I just put into it. Also, after charging the battery for 8 straight hours,,, I only played with the thing for like 30 mins or so, and the blue LED blinked like 20 times real fast, then now is not working. Could it be that the battery had already discharged the whole way? And if not, is this a problem with the battery? I can not see the battery being completely faulty if it was working well enough to heat up the atty pretty hot...
 

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Oh believe me! I certainly don't want to give up on this! I am just thoroughly frustrated right now, as you guys can probably imagine! Haha. Mamu, I am using the manual battery. The atty DEFINITELY gets warm, and then hot. But as far as the vapor I inhale feeling warm? No. I can't even tell that it's going into my mouth/throat. The mouthpiece doesn't get hot either. And JustJulie, the weird thing is,, I'm getting LOADS of vapor,,, more than with my KR808D-1, but I'm just getting zero throat hit and zero taste, except for a burnt plastic taste after only about 2-5 hits. I can't understand it. I'm using the same liquid I just bought on used and unused KR808D-1 carts, and I can definitely feel the throat hit and the taste of whatever liquid I just put into it. Also, after charging the battery for 8 straight hours,,, I only played with the thing for like 30 mins or so, and the blue LED blinked like 20 times real fast, then now is not working. Could it be that the battery had already discharged the whole way? And if not, is this a problem with the battery? I can not see the battery being completely faulty if it was working well enough to heat up the atty pretty hot...

Well, for what it's worth, I had one atomizer that simply would not break in--I got loads of vapor, but it was like inhaling air--no substance, no pull, no hit, no taste. Nothing except lots of vapor. After several days, I figured it was a lost cause, and I exchanged it under warranty.

We all talk about vapor production like it's the holy grail, but I've had plenty of times where I've had little vapor but tons of throat hit and plenty of times with lots of vapor and no throat hit.

I'm not familiar with the signals the LED sends because my 510 is a Janty Dura-C, which doesn't have an LED light. Often it's flashing because you simply hit the cut-off time period. The e-cig will only let you draw for a certain period of time before cutting off. It then takes anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or more to reset itself. Now, since yours hasn't come back on, it sounds like your battery has indeed discharged, and with a very short vaping session, that would indicate a potential problem with the battery.

I will say, though, that the battery life for the 510 is a hard thing to judge. My sister takes very short, shallow puffs, maybe a couple of seconds. Her 510 batteries seem to last quite a long time. Me, well, I take loooooooong draws, and I feel fortunate to get 1 1/2 hours.

Also, if memory serves me, with my Janty Dura, I was instructed to use it for 20 minutes after my initial charge, and then charge for a certain amount of time. I've always followed the instructions, so I don't know what would happen if you were to use it more than 20 minutes during that interim time.

The best I can tell you is to work at it for another day or so then contact the vendor if you're still having problems. Quality control ain't so great, and vendors who do test their products before shipping to customers just check to make sure the atomizer/battery isn't dead--they don't really assess the quality on individual shipments beyond that.

Keep us posted.
 

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OK Mamu. Explain to me now what is going on then? I charged the battery 8 full hours. I've tried 5 carts. 2 Marlb high prefilled (that came with the set). I've tried 3 blank carts, that I filled with my own juice, including Watermelon 18mg, Marlb 18mg and Hilton 36mg, all from eastmall. I have 5 atomizers, 3 that I bought separately, and 2 that came with the kit. After trying, in every possible combination, ALL 5 atomizers, and ALL 5 of the aforementioned carts, I still get ZERO throat hit. NONE. I get tons of vapor, but ZERO taste, ZERO throat hit, and above all that, after 2 or 3 puffs, I get a plastic-y taste? In at least 3 out of the 5 carts that I've tried? You make a good point about me making a claim without following the instructions. I am without question, guilty as charged. But now, I have followed the instructions to a tee, as well as people's suggestions on here and I'm having the same, if not WORSE results. Mamu, feel free to chime in, and anyone else that may have a thought?

Hi,
I have the Janty Dura-C and I have noticed if I smoke it with my lips totally closed around the cart and the stick pointed slightly down at an angle (long inhale) I do not get much of a throat hit, but if I have it horizontal and my lips slightly parted I take a 3 short hits along with air at the same time I get a throat hit and lots of flavor from my MLB high carts. I think it all depends on the way you are inhaling, just takes a little practice with different techniques. It is probably a little different for each person. Good Luck :thumb:
 

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thanks for the support and comments guys,.,, i will take it all into consideration. the only thing I'm noticing is that the charger itself is kinda funky. the connection or wire must not be perfect... the light is switching from red to green, sometimes intermittently, and if i move the cord, sometimes it goes from one color light to the other. perhaps that's instrunmental in not giving it a full charge. aside from that though, i took the other fully 8 hour charged battery, and i took a blank cart, dripped about 7 or 8 drops of watermelon 18mg liquid in it, and 2 drops right on the atomizer. i puffed on the thing,,, after 5 hits, i got a foul plastic burning taste again, that did indeed give me a throat hit, but it gave me like a burning throat hit, presumably from whatever the heck that melting burning plastic taste was....
 

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thanks for the support and comments guys,.,, i will take it all into consideration. the only thing I'm noticing is that the charger itself is kinda funky. the connection or wire must not be perfect... the light is switching from red to green, sometimes intermittently, and if i move the cord, sometimes it goes from one color light to the other. perhaps that's instrunmental in not giving it a full charge. aside from that though, i took the other fully 8 hour charged battery, and i took a blank cart, dripped about 7 or 8 drops of watermelon 18mg liquid in it, and 2 drops right on the atomizer. i puffed on the thing,,, after 5 hits, i got a foul plastic burning taste again, that did indeed give me a throat hit, but it gave me like a burning throat hit, presumably from whatever the heck that melting burning plastic taste was....
My USB charger was doing the blinking thing. My regular plug in charger didn't, so I just use it while Im home and save the USB for my car. I got the burnt plastic taste the first day also 8-o its gone now. That plastic taste really does give a gnarly throat hit...lol
If nothing works for you, maybe you could exchange it for a different model.
 

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I have the KR808D-1 model (Vapor King), and I've been reading so many great things about the 510, that I decided to buy one. I used a freshly charged battery (although I only charged it for 2 hours, the green light was on,, I KNOW i'm sposed to let it charge for 8 hours the first time, but just wanted to try 1-2 puffs to see how it worked). A brand new atomizers, a marlboro high cart, AND topped it off with Marlboro 18mg juice. It produced a good taste, lots of vapor, but ZERO throat hit. What am i doing wrong???!?

The KR808D-1 gives a great throat hit for me, so is there something I'm doing wrong? This is my first 3-piece, non disposable unit. I simply put the prefilled cart, connected it to the atomizer, screwed the atomizer onto the manual battery. I held the button down, so the blue LED lit up, and took a 5-7 second hit. Saw the LED light up, felt the atomizer get hot, and inhaled vapor. But ZERO throat hit. I also heard a bubbly noise when the atomizer was on and when i was sucking in. Is this normal? Almost sound like "what I've heard" a water .... sounds like. I took the cart off, and dripped a few drops of juice on the atomizer itself to see if would help, but it did not. Is it possible this 510 that is sposed to have such a powerful hit just doesn't even have the tiniest remnant of a hit for me? Seeing as how the KR808D-1 has a big hit for me,,, i'd think this would too.. What am i doing wrong/overlooking? Surely it couldn't be from only charging the battery for 2 hours, and the light was green, could it? I mean, 2 hours should be more than enough for at least 2 or 3 good hits, right? Please someone let me know, otherwise I feel very let down by this product. Thanks in advance!!!

First, the battery is not charged correctly, secondly, a new cart should not be topped off- you probably have flooded the atomizer. Charge the battery as instructed, replace the cart with a non- flooded one or take a syringe and remove the top off liquid off, remove the atomizer, shake to remove excess. Remember, the atty is already primed and you added more primer. I get a great throat hit from my yenti and perhaps these suggestions will help. Good luck and happy vaping. Ps....if you don't like it, I will take it off your hands tee hee PM me
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thanks guys,, still working on it,, but still seeing no progress, with either batteries or any of the atomizers.... citygirl., you mentioned that you had that burnt plastic taste for the first day, then it went away... any ideas as to how? was that taste initially from a cart with not enough liquid? or the atty breaking in? or something else? thanks!
 

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Ditc I'm so glad you posted! I have 2 Yeti's and so far no throat hit. I did charge my batteries for the full 8 hours etc. I have 2 dse901's so it helped me with the impatient part LOL. Same carts, MLB high, and noo throat hit. I fixed up a new cart with Marl 36 mg from esmokey treats and still no throat hit. I can get TONS of vapor. Tried 2 different attys, I do have extras so that is my next step. Mine are manual batteries also. BTW, I have been using it for a week now, along with my 901 for a throat hit, but really trying to get this thing working like I hoped it would. Maybe it is technique? Gonna start really trying different mouth positions, inhales, maybe a primer puff, not sure yet but I do know that I 'ain't no quitter' so hopefully we'll get this figured out. Let me know if things change for you and what ya did to make it work. all my best, dawn
 
Ditc and Dawnlori, please keep posting to let us know if things improve. I was "this-close" to clicking the order button for a 501 and decided to check the forum one more time before I did. Now I think I'll hold off to see if you figure out what the problem is before I rush into buying another PV.

I'm chasing that elusive throat hit, too. :rolleyes:
 

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Dawnlori, Still no throat hit, and much more burnt plastic taste on all the carts. Tons of vapor though.

RsL - I'd like to stick to one atomizer, but all 5 of them have given off a burnt plastic taste, with FULLY packed carts and freshly charged batteries. I'm with you that the atomizer might need some time to break in, BUT,,, why would an atomizer produce vapor, which I would think is the prime function of the atomizer, but not the taste or the throat hit? I'm getting HUGE amounts of vapor, to the point where I'm astounded that I'm getting no throat hit, so it's obviously doing it's job to a point. It's tough to stick to one of these atomizers though when they all make me gag from the disgusting burnt plastic taste. I went to bed nauseous this morning from that taste.

Believe me, i'm not trying to ruin anyone's fun with this model, or throw dirt on it's name,, i want VERY BADLY for this to work. Partly, becuase i just ordered it, and I like stuff that i pay for to work as advertised. But also, because I want to have an alternative to the KR808D-1, which now everyone is saying could be a health risk because of the burnt carts! All this craziness is ready to make me go back to smoking analogs! Haha.
 

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I have been using my present atty for 4 days. I would think it is broke in by now, I vape 14-16 hours a day. I don't want to turn anyone against this model either. I don't even care about the money, even though I am broke, working 50 to 55 hrs a week. I am above average intelligence level, at least my HS and College grades showed such. All I want is a throat hit. I am on to different methods of inhaling now hoping that techn. is the answer. Yes I have only vaped for a month and am rather new to this forum. Funny anyone even stays here the way some 'newbies' are talked to. Thanks to the rest of you for your courtesy and recommendations. I'm sure we will get to the bottom of the throat hit issue. dawn

PS not one anolog for 15 days thanks to my 901 and passthrough
 
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