Just got my first squonk!! Took 8 tried to build a coil lol

[Mark M]

So just got my first squonk, using wotofo profile bf rda with their mesh coils! Very pleased and love slide in out bottle system and neat keyring with spare bottle for when your out!

Can i ask some advice please guys?

This is my first squonk, i have never built coils before. Im using a wotofo profile with mesh coil. (Start easy) They are quoted at .18 oh

m.

The person in shop that told me how to build said 17 to 19 ohms fine. Im checking on an ohms reader.

And told by shop guy to use at 40 to 60 watt. I have just made a mesh coil after 8 tries!!!!lol It's at 17 ohms and great, just made another at 17ohms.

But many of the mesh coils i first made were as low as 15ohms or as high 21. So i threw em away. Also man in shop fired it to see if heats properly, but he did it about 10 times, /starting with pulses building to 5 second presses. When i did this and rechecked the ohms before puttiing in cotten the ohms had then changed so i threw mesh away and started again

I'm using it on my Vicous ant SX485j. Im not sure if i need to fire it so much before putting cotten in? On line demos they just do it once or twice to check even heat.

Should I also worry of its 15 to 21 ohms? If i keep it within 40 to 50 watts? Is it safe? Im using standard 18659 2500 batery. Sorry im new at this and nervous. I know its regulated so does this
help? It seems im getting hang of it now but either me or the ohms reader seemed inconsistent to start.

Many thanks, hope everyone well! Im 8 weeks off fags praise God. And my new baby is 6 weeks old!

Happy days

Blessings,

Mark

 

[madstabber]

So just got my first squonk, using wotofo profile bf RDA with their mesh coils! Very pleased and love slide in out bottle system and neat keyring with spare bottle for when your out!

Can i ask some advice please guys?

This is my first squonk, i have never built coils before. Im using a wotofo profile with mesh coil. (Start easy) They are quoted at .18 ohView attachment 798049 View attachment 798049 View attachment 798051
m.

The person in shop that told me how to build said 17 to 19 ohms fine. Im checking on an ohms reader.

And told by shop guy to use at 40 to 60 watt. I have just made a mesh coil after 8 tries!!!!lol It's at 17 ohms and great, just made another at 17ohms.

But many of the mesh coils i first made were as low as 15ohms or as high 21. So i threw em away. Also man in shop fired it to see if heats properly, but he did it about 10 times, /starting with pulses building to 5 second presses. When i did this and rechecked the ohms before puttiing in cotten the ohms had then changed so i threw mesh away and started again

I'm using it on my Vicous ant SX485j. Im not sure if i need to fire it so much before putting cotten in? On line demos they just do it once or twice to check even heat.

Should I also worry of its 15 to 21 ohms? If i keep it within 40 to 50 watts? Is it safe? Im using standard 18659 2500 batery. Sorry im new at this and nervous. I know its regulated so does this
help? It seems im getting hang of it now but either me or the ohms reader seemed inconsistent to start.

Many thanks, hope everyone well! Im 8 weeks off fags praise God. And my new baby is 6 weeks old!

Happy days

Blessings,

Mark

Nice setup you got there but back to the issue. You didn’t need to throw out the mesh because it changed resistance after the dry fire. You can just give it a quick pulse to make sure it’s heating evenly. You don’t need to worry what the resistance is either. They should come in anywhere from .1ohms to .2ohms. Just remember when the mesh is getting heated up and cooling the resistance may fluctuate and it’s nothing to worry about.

 

[Mark M]

Many thanks, and thats great news really appreciate the advice!

I just went outside and just vaped! It was so smooth and wonderful taste, now i get! Amazing difference

 

[greek mule]

And told by shop guy to use at 40 to 60 watt.

Correct.

But many of the mesh coils i first made were as low as 15ohms or as high 21. So i threw em away.

This small difference at ohms is not of importance.When you install the Mesh coil sheet onto the deck make sure screws are really tight.

Im not sure if i need to fire it so much before putting cotten in? On line demos they just do it once or twice to check even heat.

Two or three pulses is the usual,mesh sheet light up evenly from the very beginning.Use lower wattage(20w).

Should I also worry of its 15 to 21 ohms? If i keep it within 40 to 50 watts? Is it safe? Im using standard 18659 2500 batery. Sorry im new at this and nervous. I know its regulated so does this
help? It seems im getting hang of it now but either me or the ohms reader seemed inconsistent to start

Unless you are using a 10 A CDR battery,you are fine.Regulated has protections but can't "see" what battery is in there.You will stress a 10 A battery if you are pulling 60 Watt.
All about batteries

Cheers

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[greek mule]

You may read these:

• Mooch's recommended batteries
• Calculating battery current draw for a regulated mod

 

[Mark M]

Correct.



This small difference at ohms is not of importance.When you install the Mesh coil sheet onto the deck make sure screws are really tight.




Two or three pulses is the usual,mesh sheet light up evenly from the very beginning.Use lower wattage(20w).



Unless you are using a 10 A CDR battery,you are fine.Regulated has protections but can't "see" what battery is in there.You will stress a 10 A battery if you are pulling 60 Watt.
All about batteries

Cheers

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Thanks

 

[Mark M]

Correct.



This small difference at ohms is not of importance.When you install the Mesh coil sheet onto the deck make sure screws are really tight.




Two or three pulses is the usual,mesh sheet light up evenly from the very beginning.Use lower wattage(20w).



Unless you are using a 10 A CDR battery,you are fine.Regulated has protections but can't "see" what battery is in there.You will stress a 10 A battery if you are pulling 60 Watt.
All about batteries

Cheers

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I was firing to check coil on the ohm tester.

 

[Baditude]

Don't forget the decimal point when talking about sub-ohm coils. Also recommended to put a "0" in front of the decimal point.

 

[BrotherBob]

This is my first squonk, i have never built coils before. Im using a wotofo profile with mesh coil.

You have posted in the new members forum, you are limited to the number of post in this forum.
re: New Members - "How many posts do I need to..."
In the future, you might want to post in the ECF forum most closely representing your question. Your subject, Squonk, suggests posting in : Liquid Feed APV Discussion
Or for coils: Coil Builds
You may receive more knowledgeable/germane information from the membership in the above forums.

 

[Mark M]

Hello,

I was not aware of restrictions, thank you for your message but its ambiguous for, me as a newish member, I have clicked the link you sent, thank you, but please can you tell me why you wrote me specifically?

I have created I believe less than the five new posts/threads mentioned since joining, please correct me if wrong? I have just started squonking so feel still very much a newbie in many respects with newbie questions, why do you think that it is not appropriate for me to write here?

I want to abide by the forum rules and etiquette so please can you tell me:

Are you an official moderator on the forum? Or self-appointed? It's not clear to me as a new member.

What limit are you suggesting I have reached? So that I can address this going forward.

Please let me know these things so I can qualify them with forum admin - if you are not.

I'm sorry, but your message is neither very friendly nor unfriendly, and so i don't believe I have exceeded any limits as you are suggesting in your reply, so it is hard to see where you are coming from.

I shall, however, certainly look to use the specific forums for specific issues, thank you.

Many thanks

 

[jandrew]

According to the rules, after 70 posts you can no longer start new threads in the new members section ... but you are only at 50 posts so no worries there.

However, you needn't feel "too new" to post in the more topical areas -- they are there for everyone, and people here are generally welcoming in all the forum areas and willing to either help out or share in your excitement.

By the way, very nice squonker! Cheers mate.

 

[Mark M]

Hi jandrew,

Many thanks, im pretty new to any kind of forum so thanks for the heads up. Shall certainly follow your advice and look to post in the relevant forrums from now on.

Thanks re the squonk, its so much better than tanks I was using, great feeling of satisfaction after my first build!

Cheers mate!

According to the rules, after 70 posts you can no longer start new threads in the new members section ... but you are only at 50 posts so no worries there.

However, you needn't feel "too new" to post in the more topical areas -- they are there for everyone, and people here are generally welcoming in all the forum areas and willing to either help out or share in your excitement.

By the way, very nice
squonker! Cheers mate.

 

[Jet Knight]

Yup, nice set up indeed. Interesting that you chose VA as your 1st squonker, and Mesh as your first builds. All advice mention above are helpful.

 

[Mark M]

Thanks, already have a VA knight juma green so was draw again to the colour lol, plus know the quality! Drawn to mesh by on line vape shop that have headquarters in my local town and have a kiosk. I was going to use vandy vape maze as so unsure i colour build a coil, but they convinced me to try the profile instead and that its easy to build. Reviews are mainly very positive for the profile. Very happy now im getting the hang of it but may try a coil deck at some point as confidence grows! Here is my other VA pic attached, my small collection

 

[Mark M]

Yup, nice set up indeed. Interesting that you chose VA as your 1st squonker, and Mesh as your first builds. All advice mention above are helpful.

Hey, can you use a different RDA cap on a different base? Are they generic sizes??IE if cosmetically i like a different one can i put it on my profile one?

 

[jandrew]

Hey, can you use a different RDA cap on a different base? Are they generic sizes??IE if cosmetically i like a different one can i put it on my profile one?

In general, no, RDA caps are not interchangeable. However, some RDAs do have alternate caps either from the manufacturer or there may be third party caps. I have no experience/familiarity with the Profile so I can't help you there.

 

[Jet Knight]

Hey, can you use a different RDA cap on a different base? Are they generic sizes??IE if cosmetically i like a different one can i put it on my profile one?

The diameter of the Profile I believe is around 24 mm and will fit with the Hellvape Recurve which is also around 24 mm. Other atty's wont though like a 24mm Dead Rabbit since the inner diameter is different. I really don't switch caps/bases with various atties, and don't recommend, i.e. shorts, leakage, etc. Be careful on your builds if you do switch caps and make sure nothing inside is touching which may be difficult to determine.

 

[niczgreat]

If you get tired of building there are 3 reasonably priced Attys on the market with changeable coils. No rebuilding just screw in the Pre-Wicked Coils. The reason why I got back into squonking is because of these new Attys. I was tired of rebuilding.

1. Ijoy SRDA - Standard Dual Coil. They sell the Coil assemblies for around $2.50 per piece. Very good classic Dual Coil Vape.
2. Vandy Maze - Disk that you unscrew. Unique design. Very good vape Also around $2.50Ea
3. Goat from Grimm Green. - Haven't tried and replacements are pricy at around $5.00 Ea

 

[Mark M]

Nice setup you got there but back to the issue. You didn’t need to throw out the mesh because it changed resistance after the dry fire. You can just give it a quick pulse to make sure it’s heating evenly. You don’t need to worry what the resistance is either. They should come in anywhere from .1ohms to .2ohms. Just remember when the mesh is getting heated up and cooling the resistance may fluctuate and it’s nothing to worry about.

Hi Madstabber,
I sent the same question to the vape shop supplier in Canada. And he said that "the resistance of your build is quite low, and you are pushing that battery quite close to the continuous discharge safety rating. I would feel more comfortable if you used a more powerful battery such as a Sony VTC5A, and used a slightly higher coil resistance. I was never a fan of that Wotofo atomizer due to its huge power requirements. It's inefficient and unnecessary."
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Im using 18650 2500 3.7 in my mod, and have brought a load of profile mesh coils and wicks etc, so would be gutted to have to stop using it as I like the flavour so much and know what to do now.

If i get the more powerful battery the problem is the mesh coils are set for around 0.18 ohms and they don't do higher versions. So is he right and I should stop using?? And bite the bullet and start using proper coils?

Getting worried - I also read on another site that "Anyone who is sub-ohming below 0.2 ohms are operating on the pulse rating, and are operating over spec for any 18650 battery currently on the market." its puzzling since the profile is so mainstream and I imagine being used by many single 18650 batteries. Im vaping it at exactly 45 watts. Having said all that safety first so if you think I'm playing it risky please let me know. Many thanks again, Mark

 

[Old Greybeard]

Getting worried - I also read on another site that "Anyone who is sub-ohming below 0.2 ohms are operating on the pulse rating, and are operating over spec for any 18650 battery currently on the market." its puzzling since the profile is so mainstream and I imagine being used by many single 18650 batteries. Im vaping it at exactly 45 watts. Having said all that safety first so if you think I'm playing it risky please let me know. Many thanks again, Mark

It all depends dn the manufacturer, and the exact type of battery you are using, Mark. If you look on the side, it should have a type number.

45W is a bit high for most single batteries at that resistance, and 60W definitely too much IMO. My back of a ... packet calculations puts you right on the maximum rating of the very common Samsung 25R at 0.18 ohms /3.6V nominal charge (Current = Voltage/Resistance, 3.6/0.18 = 20), which has a CDR of 20A. I'd strongly recommend a Samsung 20S (or equivalent), which has a CDR of 30A. You would have a much bigger safety margin then, but without knowing the exact battery you have it is hard to explicitly confirm if you should be worried. You could also increase your mesh resistance to 0.20 Ohms or above, which would give you a load of 18A or less, not ideal, but better.

So yes, the other site is on the right track, although not knowing exactly when that was written does muddy the picture a bit, the 20S is fairly new.