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Tempesta

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I'm getting totally freaked out over the upcoming FDA regs, whatever they may be. Right now I'm using a Halo G6 kit. If there was any one setup to get in case the worst happens, what would you guys recommend? I'm thinking of something that would not go sour sitting quietly away for a little while, and would be reliable and easily maintained. (I assume that they cannot regulate batteries also used for other things, for example). Budget is a consideration; I cannot afford a Provari, even if I knew how to use one. Thanks!
 

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I would have thought the only thing they can regulate is the nicotine concentrate , everything else is just generic .

Not that the gooberment and its regulatory boards boards ever had much common since. These days they have absolutely none. Any regulatory board that has little or no accountability can and will abuse its intended purpose and authority
 

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If you are concerned about hardware then owning an all mechanical APV and some rebuildable atomizers (the things needed to rebuild will always be readily available) would be what to purchase that would last you the longest. We don't know what regulations would be put into place "if" the FDA ever gets around to actually issuing a deemng order and regs so you REALLY don't have to panic at this moment. Nothing is going to change quickly. Take some time and look around and see what fits your budget and what you think you'd be happy with.

Nicotine is really our biggest concern as to its easy availability so IF I was looking to make any purchases that's what I would look to stock up on first so I could mix my our juice if I needed to. (the other things needed for DIY will always be readily available).
 

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Not that the gooberment and its regulatory boards boards ever had much common since. These days they have absolutely none. Any regulatory board that has little or no accountability can and will abuse its intended purpose and authority

Not sure what you mean there Buzz .
I understand that the old adage of "how can you tell when a politician is lying ? Their lips move" ; is truer now than ever . To that point I have no doubt that the dates set for change will be moved forward to this year.

A mod is a torch body or even less for a box mod , PG/VG is used for medicinal purpose , the flavours are part of the food/home bake industry .

Is there something that I missed? EEK !
 

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I'm getting totally freaked out over the upcoming FDA regs, whatever they may be. Right now I'm using a Halo G6 kit. If there was any one setup to get in case the worst happens, what would you guys recommend? I'm thinking of something that would not go sour sitting quietly away for a little while, and would be reliable and easily maintained. (I assume that they cannot regulate batteries also used for other things, for example). Budget is a consideration; I cannot afford a Provari, even if I knew how to use one. Thanks!

If it happens.. i have bought a mechanical.. it's basically a battery tube.. no circuit protection for your battery.
So while this is something to stash away in case the worst happens.. if i ever have to use it.. I'm checking the resistance of every atomizer.. clearomizer.. etc.. and I'm checking it twice lol (i don't want a short and messing up good batteries). I'm also going to use a vapesafe in case a short happens to protect the mod and batteries.
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You can find inexpensive mechanical clones in Fasttech or 101vape.com and any number of vendors.
A multimeter IMO is a must have if you go the mechanical route. There are videos on how to use them to check the resistance of your device before you attach it to your battery tube.

Going from a halo kit to a mechanical is.. different.. there will some learning involved for sure.

There is a lot of speculation as to what will happen and how it will happen... i feel, if it does, the nic will be the first thing that's targeted..

Wizard labs and a tin foil hat for me lol
 

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The government does a lot of things their not "supposed" to be able to do.

Isn't that the truth?

Any ban would be strictly on the extract, at least at first. I wouldn't worry at all about the devices that deliver the vapor. The devices are designed to vaporize pg and vg bases, neither of which would have a cause to initiate control. It's all about the nicotine. Under the guise of 'for your safety' (just like everything else), there's money to be made. Big corporate interests and billions in taxes are at risk. That's all that needs to be said. A way has to be discovered that will allow them to replace the income lost on cig sales. The answer to that is regulation. Nothing will happen overnight, but incrementally, just like everything else.
 
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Not sure what you mean there Buzz .
I understand that the old adage of "how can you tell when a politician is lying ? Their lips move" ; is truer now than ever . To that point I have no doubt that the dates set for change will be moved forward to this year.

A mod is a torch body or even less for a box mod , PG/VG is used for medicinal purpose , the flavours are part of the food/home bake industry .

Is there something that I missed? EEK !

Your trying to look at things with a rational mind. We have to take in to account what the FDA members think they might just be against vaping because their uncle did of lung cancer.

Their daughter works for Philip Morison and is worried her job is threatened there is a infinite number of reasons a banning regulation can be imposed with no thought given to public safety or the grater good.
 

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Your trying to look at things with a rational mind. We have to take in to account what the FDA members think they might just be against vaping because their uncle did of lung cancer.

Their daughter works for Philip Morison and is worried her job is threatened there is a infinite number of reasons a banning regulation can be imposed with no thought given to public safety or the grater good.

Good points. Being cynically inclined, I didn't realize the many other possibilities.
 

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Your trying to look at things with a rational mind. We have to take in to account what the FDA members think they might just be against vaping because their uncle did of lung cancer.

Their daughter works for Philip Morison and is worried her job is threatened there is a infinite number of reasons a banning regulation can be imposed with no thought given to public safety or the grater good.

Indeed !
As I am in UK the FDA are outside my experience , I was labouring under the illusion that they would have to be highly qualified professional individuals .
Don't know why I would have thought that , in UK it seems that the medical advisors to the govt are well and truly paid off .

At times I wonder if that the constant increase of human longevity is a motivator in all this .
"They" see a growing populace of old people and would rather us working classes (well I am) die off early and do the economy a favour !

Never was one to believe in conspiracy theories , but since starting vaping I now have a fine selection of tinfoil hats :p
 

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Vamos aren't the most robust of devices .
The technology though , is used for a countless number of devices .
Essentially looking at a buck-boost converter that can be fitted to any dc supply (within spec of converter ofcs) . Will include battery protection, undervolt and low ohm/short cct etc. (Take a look at DNA 20 type device to see what a vamo is doing (dna is higher power though) .

Never used an ego and only seen them in passing , suspect they are a battery holder with a protection circuit that covers things like low ohm/short cct , overvolt and undervolt .
Again these are very common generic circuits/devices .

To sum , even if the supply for vamos was somehow stopped , they are extremely easy for a homegrown version to spring up in its' place .
 
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Not sure what you mean there Buzz .
I understand that the old adage of "how can you tell when a politician is lying ? Their lips move" ; is truer now than ever . To that point I have no doubt that the dates set for change will be moved forward to this year.

A mod is a torch body or even less for a box mod , PG/VG is used for medicinal purpose , the flavours are part of the food/home bake industry .

Is there something that I missed? EEK !

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT saying they will do this, but it is possible for the Gubment to declare any hardware outside of Big-T supplied cig-a-likes to be "paraphernalia" and thus illegal to posses. They have already done this with may items related to certain other controlled substances.
 

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A solid device WITH ego threading
Evods - Several
Evod replacement heads - 20 to 50
Wick, wire and recoiling instructions
Nic Base in a large quantity - Shelf life(freezer) 2+ years
Batteries and quality charger

or............just go with what you have. They will undoubtedly Regulate NOT ban. You cannot TAX banned products!:D
 
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