just my opinion, but....

[WattWick]

Think it's all about context. You don't see a lot of (edit: whups hit the profanity filter... I will rephrase) Kindly keep your mouth the opposite of open, NOOB!! or PWND! when someone has problems on these forums. I try to use the newbie instead of noob, tho... and usually only just when referring to myself.

 

[Oomee]

My experience with the gaming world (realize I am pretty old school) and the terms goes like this.

NOOB is used to refer not only to a new player but one that is hopelessly stupid and never going to learn.

Newb or Newbie refers to a new person that has alot to learn but is learning it.

It is a fine distinction. Yes Noob is offensive to many games because of this.

That's the way I see it too .
Finding either offensive might mean that forums are not the place for you .

 

[peterforpats]

Especially newbies who own vape shops. I'n my defense, I was paying attention for all the wrong reaso

RHP

I will say this- the money this woman saves on lanyards will certainly add up. nice to have a built-in storage space!

 

[crxess]

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noun: noob; plural noun: noobs

1.
a person who is inexperienced in a particular sphere or activity, especially computing or the use of the Internet.

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Newbie, newb, noob, or n00b is a slang term for a novice or newcomer, or somebody inexperienced in any profession or activity. Contemporary use can particularly refer to a beginner or new user of computers, often concerning Internet activity, such as online gaming[1] or Linux use.[2][3] It can have derogatory connotations, but is also often used for descriptive purposes only, without a value judgment.

The term's origin is uncertain. Earliest uses probably date to late twentieth century U.S. military jargon, though possible precursor terms are much earlier. Variant forms of the noun include newby and newbee, while the related term noob (often spelt n00b) is often used in online gaming.

Seems subjective to me - i.e. it is all ones personal assumption of use.
If you are a younger Gamer, you may be offended by its use - This is NOT a Gaming Community.

I have not seen a response from an assisting member that started with - Look, you are a Noob........

My understanding is the only form of the word which may be derogatory is n00b
That is N - Zero - Zero - B

And there went another 5 minutes of my life

 

[Kelevra]

When it comes to the word noob, I think most people bring their own connotation to it. I do have a gaming background, like many other ecf members, and n00b is a derogatory term in that sphere. But that kind of gaming is also competitive, who has the highest score or k/d ratios. I do not think it is the slightest bit offensive here on ecf, unless we start having leader boards to see who can vape the biggest cloud, best looking coil/wick setup, voting on who has the prettiest provari, and best trick shot squonk

 

[RBBR]

As you can see by my post count, I am as new as it gets. I am not offended by the term "noob", but I am not a gamer so perhaps that makes a difference. Half the time I don't even bother to log in, I just come to read and soak up info. I am quite sure there are many like me who do so. That being said, when I have felt the need to have something clarified, I have gotten prompt and courteous responses. Smart "noobs" learn the drill pretty fast. You know, the difference between a Blue and a Provari and why you should stay away from Bobas Bounty threads

 

[Zealous]

The words "noob" or "newbie" are slang for someone that is new to whatever the subject matter is.

In many forums I've visited a "noob" is considered more of a dimwit. I thought the person who started the thread yesterday & had "noob" in the title was simply referring to new vapers. However when I saw the word "noob" my first thought was that he was calling them dimwits.

Newbie & noob aren't the same thing.

 

[Oomee]

When it comes to the word noob, I think most people bring their own connotation to it. I do have a gaming background, like many other ecf members, and n00b is a derogatory term in that sphere. But that kind of gaming is also competitive, who has the highest score or k/d ratios. I do not think it is the slightest bit offensive here on ecf, unless we start having leader boards to see who can vape the biggest cloud, best looking coil/wick setup, voting on who has the prettiest provari, and best trick shot squonk

I r 5u8 0hm 1337357 !

Did you get your Avy name from Clint Eastwood's pronunciation of kevlar in the film Hamburger Hill ?

 

[retired1]

Comparing the gaming community to ECF is like comparing infants to adults. Oh. Wait...

 

[unsure]

I feel a comment I made in another thread applies here....


Well I take offence when we pavari and REO owners are accused of pushing our "cult like" subliminal messaging agendas with comments, avatars and signatures on the innocent noobs seeking help and guidance.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[DoogieTony]

You noob, I'll slap the swag right off your yolo. It'll be cray.

(my I.Q. just dropped ~75 points)

 

[DurrtyMethodz]

Lol people seem to correlate my analogy of noobs in gaming to noobs being used in" adult world" as someone said. Remember, the average gamer age is 33, so there are plenty of" grown ups who game. I'm clearly aware that "this is not a gaming community" but the point doesn't shy from the fact that it sometimes gets used in a insulting manner. Yes there are people who use it to reference themselves who are new and that's fine. My post was geared towards the way of using it in a, not so nice way. There is a difference in context wen I say" hey I have a noob question" and someone saying" you don't understand this or that because u are a noob" or" wow I need to educate this noob" . Its all in the context. I'm not necessarily saying the word noob itself is bad, rather I'm saying one should avoid using it when they are giving someone a smart ... remark because they know more than someone else. I have seen it used more-so in comments vs thread titles. And its usually when people are having a disagreement. So again to clear up... I was addressing more of the context vs the word itself.

 

[crxess]

Lol people seem to correlate my analogy of noobs in gaming to noobs being used in" adult world" as someone said. Remember, the average gamer age is 33, so there are plenty of" grown ups who game. I'm clearly aware that "this is not a gaming community" but the point doesn't shy from the fact that it sometimes gets used in a insulting manner. Yes there are people who use it to reference themselves who are new and that's fine. My post was geared towards the way of using it in a, not so nice way. There is a difference in context wen I say" hey I have a Newbe question" and someone saying" you don't understand this or that because u are a Newbe" or" wow I need to educate this Newbe" . Its all in the context. I'm not necessarily saying the word noob itself is bad, rather I'm saying one should avoid using it when they are giving someone a smart ... remark because they know more than someone else. I have seen it used more-so in comments vs thread titles. And its usually when people are having a disagreement. So again to clear up... I was addressing more of the context vs the word itself.

Edited for comparison -

Sorry to say, it is not the word but rather the context in which a word is used.

I.e. Holy that Bike is Awesome

or

You look like today. Bad night?

And in adding this <Its all in the context.> You have negated the whole point of this thread.

 

[Kelevra]

I r 5u8 0hm 1337357 !

Lmao that one cracked me up!

Did you get your Avy name from Clint Eastwood's pronunciation of kevlar in the film Hamburger Hill ?

I picked it up from a movie called Lucky Number Slevin. Its the main characters pseudonym. It's my attempt at being ironic. We all have these handles on the interwebs, and they become our identity even though it's in reality not at all who we are.

Back on topic there is a certain amount of elitism that runs through some of the threads here. To be fair after seeing I'm new should I buy this ego for the 50th time that day, and then seeing that their are 3 threads on the first page alone with the same topic can be a little frustrating. On other forums I visit the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rule in the stickies is use the search button before opening a new thread. If you open a new thread that has been asked already you will get a dozen sarcastic remarks with links to the previously asked and answered question. I think the culture here at ecf is much more supportive. We realize that vaping is a journey on a bus that has different beginnings and endings for each of us. I can certainly appreciate the OP's point that we should be careful about using sarcasm which doesn't always translate well in writing, and we should be cautious about certain terms that could have a negative impact on a "virgin vapor". We certainly don't want them to be dissuaded from vaping, and continue smoking, because of a careless choice of words.

 

[vjc0628]

You know what I've been called noob when I was new in a couple place when I was younger
when I was 17 in construction that and much worse till I learned what I was doing, so what
I don't find it like any of that with this
I mean everywhere I look anymore people are offended at the slightest thing
I mean really? what's the deal with that?

 

[Oomee]

Lmao that one cracked me up!
I picked it up from a movie called Lucky Number Slevin. Its the main characters pseudonym. It's my attempt at being ironic. We all have these handles on the interwebs, and they become our identity even though it's in reality not at all who we are.

Ahh, all becomes clear .
I like an avy name with a story , can sometimes learn about the poster from the name .

Back on topic .

Actually , as there have been much talk of the gaming world .
In gaming the noob is a new player , a scrub is a skilless non-learning player .
An easy mistake to make , even Jeremy teh_pwnerer got that one wrong

 

[ScottP]

At the risk of being the opposite of PC, I will say this too: While I try to not offend anyone, I have always felt that anyone that is weak enough to allow someone else to control their emotions with mere words, DESERVES to be offended. Especially if the other person did it on accident or made a slip. As for me, I choose not to give anyone that power so I have never been offended even when someone was trying hard as they might to do so. It frustrates those kinds of people to no end and I find it quite humorous.

 

[DurrtyMethodz]

Edited for comparison -

Sorry to say, it is not the word but rather the context in which a word is used.

I.e. Holy that Bike is Awesome

or

You look like today. Bad night?

And in adding this <Its all in the context.> You have negated the whole point of this thread.

i see u took my original post out of context so let me remind u and break it down for u

"Why must we address(definition " to speak to someone directly) newly converted vapors as" noobs." (this would mean someone calliing someone else a noob) I mean in the gaming world from my experience, it's never in a non derogatory way(here i set the example in the tone in which i have witnessed it). We were all" noobs" once ourselves and (key point next)SOMEONE TALKING DOWN TO SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THEIR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE could possibly intimidate them and shy them away from this site and/or healthier lifestyle."

that being said, i would assume that you being an adult and all could figure out the context since examples where given. instead of speed reading thru my post and ASSUMING that i was addressing the word itself. so nothing is negated except your misunderstanding of the original post to begin with, which means all of your points and rebuttals are negated as well since it never applied to the point i was making... i stand correct. u stand corrected.

 

[chellemakepeace]

Why must we address newly converted vapors as" noobs." I mean in the gaming world from my experience, it's never in a non derogatory way. We were all" noobs" once ourselves and someone talking down to someone because of their lack of knowledge could possibly intimidate them and shy them away from this site and/or healthier lifestyle. Why cant we find a softer word to use like maybe" beginner, convert Or even saying things gently like" I know this is new fir you but...". Secondly, Why must we jump down peoples throats with insulting words instead of giving kind friendly advice. I see this mostly when someone is doing something unsafe or more-so the infamous sub ohm debates. I know we are all passionate about what we do and love But at the end of the day people are going to either do it their own way, or the way of the advice that aS given the best. Anyways. .. just my opinion... and to stay in line with forum topic. .... provari or evic. .. GO : lol

Noobs rhymes with Boobs.

 

[AttyPops]

I try to use "newbie" rather than "noob".

However, it's just a lot easier to type than "someone that's new to e-cigs". They are equivalent in intent.

So I'm going on record here as saying no offense intended.