Just out of pure curiousity...

[Ghostrider]

If recommending an ecig to someone who has never had one before and based on what they want is the basics like long battery life, inexpensive, and small in size...and your choice was a Kgo, Ego C, Ego T, Ego Twist, E-power, or Riva to recommend...which one would you tell them to use and why is it better than the other options? Provari's, Lavatubes, etc. are not being considered as part of this hypothetical question.

FWIW this is not for me or anyone I know...I would just like to get perspective from others as to why they feel the way they do about their choice.

 

[Cookster]

Of all those you mentioned, only the Twist is variable voltage, so that gets my vote

 

[Forkeh]

Probably the Kgo, C, or Riva. Look, the Twist is a really great idea, and probably a really good product (though I'm gonna wait for the reviews a couple months from now before I call it, sometimes problems take a while to show up). However, for someone just starting out, I don't think VV is an appropriate starting point. There's a learning curve, and you have to know about voltage vs resistance.

I also wouldn't recommend any set up with an atty tank system. I don't like them. I find them very fiddly and prone to problems. I don't like the flavor. For a newbie to vaping, I would recommend some sort of basic Ego or ego clone and cartos. Nothing more. As they start to adjust to vaping, then can come the time for them to start venturing into the more complicated juice delivery systems. Clearos, atty tanks, carto tanks, dripping. But for a beginner, in my opinion all of those things are far too fiddly.

 

[Ghostrider]

Probably the Kgo, C, or Riva. Look, the Twist is a really great idea, and probably a really good product (though I'm gonna wait for the reviews a couple months from now before I call it, sometimes problems take a while to show up). However, for someone just starting out, I don't think VV is an appropriate starting point. There's a learning curve, and you have to know about voltage vs resistance.

I also wouldn't recommend any set up with an atty tank system. I don't like them. I find them very fiddly and prone to problems. I don't like the flavor. For a newbie to vaping, I would recommend some sort of basic Ego or ego clone and cartos. Nothing more. As they start to adjust to vaping, then can come the time for them to start venturing into the more complicated juice delivery systems. Clearos, atty tanks, carto tanks, dripping. But for a beginner, in my opinion all of those things are far too fiddly.

Ok, you bring up a good point. What is it about VV that isnt for noobs? If you take ANY single ohm carto/tank/whatever and start it out at the lowest setting and work your way up till it tastes right, isnt that a good/easy thing to do? Whereas on an Ego etc you are stuck with the voltage that the device provides and have to play the ohm game with cartos until you find one thats just right....for that specific juice. On a VV device you can adjust as necessary regardless of carto ohms. I dont think theres a learning curve....too low...raise the voltage....to high...oh @#$ I just burnt my carto...lol

 

[Danousa]

I would suggest giving them this web address and let them make the decisions. From what I have read here, many like the Volt as a starter (I started with a VV).

 

[Forkeh]

Ok, you bring up a good point. What is it about VV that isnt for noobs? If you take ANY single ohm carto/tank/whatever and start it out at the lowest setting and work your way up till it tastes right, isnt that a good/easy thing to do? Whereas on an Ego etc you are stuck with the voltage that the device provides and have to play the ohm game with cartos until you find one thats just right....for that specific juice. On a VV device you can adjust as necessary regardless of carto ohms. I dont think theres a learning curve....too low...raise the voltage....to high...oh @#$ I just burnt my carto...lol

Because most noobs don't understand voltage and resistance. I certainly didn't. I didn't even know what Ohms my cartos were. I just used what the company marketed to go with the battery. When you have VV, not only do you have to know about what resistance goes with your specific device, when you venture out of said company for products, but you also have to know what resistance goes with what voltage. And no it's not as simple as raising and lowering the voltage. I'm not sure what that Twist tops out at, but it can't be that high. Some noob gets a 3.0 carto/atty/whatever, where's nothing they can do to make that perform optimally. I just think it's too much all at once to get someone who isn't even really sure what mg juice they need is, or what the difference between a manual and auto battery is.

That's what I think when we talk about noobs. Not someone who's been using a cig clone for a couple weeks and have grown past it. But an absolute noob, never touched an ecig before.

 

[bnrkwest]

If they don't care if it is not a cig look alike, I say the Twist or the ego VV, I have both and altho the Twist offers more setting options the ego VV is also a good choice. But I think the Twist overall gives alot more to play with and you can use alot of different cartos, clearos and tanks with ease. It will keep the new vaper happy playing without getting bored until they are ready to go to a Provari or Darwin etc. bnrk

 

[bnrkwest]

Because most noobs don't understand voltage and resistance. I certainly didn't. I didn't even know what Ohms my cartos were. I just used what the company marketed to go with the battery. When you have VV, not only do you have to know about what resistance goes with your specific device, when you venture out of said company for products, but you also have to know what resistance goes with what voltage. And no it's not as simple as raising and lowering the voltage. I'm not sure what that Twist tops out at, but it can't be that high. Some noob gets a 3.0 carto/atty/whatever, where's nothing they can do to make that perform optimally. I just think it's too much all at once to get someone who isn't even really sure what mg juice they need is, or what the difference between a manual and auto battery is.

That's what I think when we talk about noobs. Not someone who's been using a cig clone for a couple weeks and have grown past it. But an absolute noob, never touched an ecig before.

I definitely think they need some instructions, that is were the ego VV maybe a better choice because it has 3 settings, 3.2, 3.7, and 4.2 I think it is and is way easier to figure out. Then a newb can upgrade to the Twist maybe. The Twist does not have an easy way to figure out what you are vaping at and it could mean alot of fried cartos for newbies. bnrk

 

[Miira]

I'd recommend an eGo bat with a Stardust. I discovered mine at the mall(wasn't dumb enough to buy it there) and haven't felt the need to try anything else. I have the tanks that came with my eGo, but haven't even tried them. I needed e-cigs to be easy.