Duh! Dadgumit! Just realized forums are organized according to latest replies not the original post. No need for new thread. So...to reiterate...so far so good. Received package of elegant easy starter kit in two days. Decent price...currently on sale at 59.95...or right around there. Shipping $5.95. You can't beat that, I thought. Two day ship from west coast to east for that price. Kit included two batteries, two chargers, 5 cartomizers of my choice. Complimentary 10ml bottle of juice of my choice. Frank even threw in a complimentary cartomizer. Thanks Frank!! Easy two piece construction, just screw together. Had a little problem with the first battery to start. Couldn't get it tight enough to work. (Frank deals with this issue in the suppliers forum) I went to the second battery and it worked fine. (BTW only took 10-15 mins to fully charge, they must be charged before ship) I simply cleaned out the threads of the first battery with my fingernail looking for any rough spots. Must have done something cause it worked perfectly the next time i tried it. So far I have nothing but good things to say about my new pv. I'm a newbie so I've nothing to compare it to but the transaction was flawless. The product is good. I'm enjoying the vaping and I'm staying away from the analogs(at least for the most part). And that was the plan. Thanks for your comments and replies.