Just want to know what is in their so called organic juice.

[quittoride]

I just left A to Z vapors Facebook page. Here is a copy of what I inquired about. I'd like to see more details on your ingredients. are only the flavorings organic,are they all organic. is there alcohol or distilled water used. Is there diacetyl or anything that can turn to diacetyl. are there sweeteners used and if so what types? I'm not tryig to get your recipes . I just want to make sure I'm vaping as healthy as possible and it's impossible to get some of these OTHER organic juice venders to even answer my questions. so your the big last chance .

this was their response:
A to Z Vapor World chris there is a reason vendors dont answer this question buddy. We would recommend you mixing your own juice to ensure you health concerns are addressed.
I have gotten replies from the vendors that do not claim to be organic. PLENTY of them. Just one organic company in particular that will not answer my inquiries, unless I ask on facebook only not on the website mail in link.
Was I wrong to ask these questions from someone I would spend ALOT of money buying e-liquid from and whats this big reason they don't want to tell these important things to me? This is my health . Don't I have a right to know what I'm vaping. These are the kinds of vendors the feds are gonna go crazy on. .Totally unprofessional imo. I want some of you to tell me why a vendor would not be totally open and transparent about their ingredients. AND I am a woman and he called me BUDDY!

 

[firephly]

I wouldn't spend a dime at that place after that response! Of course no one tells the exact flavorings they use as they don't want to give away their recipes, but he could have told you a lot more than that and made an effort to answer your questions.

There are lots of good vendors that make organic juice and have info on their site about the ingredients and will answer your questions without calling you buddy.

Check these out:

dripeez
Natural & Organic E-liquids - About Us Dripeez

virgin vapor
Frequently Asked Questions | Virgin Vapor | Electronic Cigarette Organic e-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes

velvet cloud
Velvet Cloud Vapor - Organic and Natural All VG E-Liquid from San Francisco

free state vapor
About Us

that's just a start, there are plenty more

 

[GoodNews!]

Velvet Cloud Vapors' is an odd one. They have fantastic customer service in my experience, and getting $5 off the first order by signing up (and additional deals with that) is a fantastic bonus, you can get so much juice from them at a great price, but to be honest, I have a very hard time getting their flavors to taste right on any normal vaping device. I've gotten the best results using an expensive Cisco atomizer, and using an RDA may be my only chance at really tasting their juices how they were meant to be.

If you don't use the right atomizer, their juices can really tend to taste salty, oily (as in herb or vegetable oil), or just almost tasteless. The one thing that's odd is if I get a little of their juice on my fingers, it tends to burn a tad, where as other 0mg juices don't seem to do this. I'm a little concerned as to why that is. Could just be the sensitivity of my hands at the time period, but I just don't know. I do know that their juices do create heavy clouds, but the fact that they're %100VG makes these juices, even with distilled water added, very thick.

I tried Burley Beard, Caramel Swirl, and Candy Bar, and Candy Bar was really the one I had any luck at all with tasting sort of like what it should - I got it to taste very Reese Puffs in tone, which was nice. Their juices do have a thick texture on the mouth, probably the thickest in texture I've gotten out of any juice. So it seems to point toward that there's no chemicals making the juice thinner.

 

[Criticalmass]

I just left A to Z vapors Facebook page. Here is a copy of what I inquired about. I'd like to see more details on your ingredients. are only the flavorings organic,are they all organic. is there alcohol or distilled water used. Is there diacetyl or anything that can turn to diacetyl. are there sweeteners used and if so what types? I'm not tryig to get your recipes . I just want to make sure I'm vaping as healthy as possible and it's impossible to get some of these OTHER organic juice venders to even answer my questions. so your the big last chance .

this was their response:
A to Z Vapor World chris there is a reason vendors dont answer this question buddy. We would recommend you mixing your own juice to ensure you health concerns are addressed.
I have gotten replies from the vendors that do not claim to be organic. PLENTY of them. Just one organic company in particular that will not answer my inquiries, unless I ask on facebook only not on the website mail in link.
Was I wrong to ask these questions from someone I would spend ALOT of money buying e-liquid from and whats this big reason they don't want to tell these important things to me? This is my health . Don't I have a right to know what I'm vaping. These are the kinds of vendors the feds are gonna go crazy on. .Totally unprofessional imo. I want some of you to tell me why a vendor would not be totally open and transparent about their ingredients. AND I am a woman and he called me BUDDY!

No, you weren't wrong. There will come a time when they HAVE to list the ingredients and probably have warning labels attached too.

 

[Kataphraktos]

Velvet Cloud Vapors' is an odd one. They have fantastic customer service in my experience, and getting $5 off the first order by signing up (and additional deals with that) is a fantastic bonus, you can get so much juice from them at a great price, but to be honest, I have a very hard time getting their flavors to taste right on any normal vaping device. I've gotten the best results using an expensive Cisco atomizer, and using an RDA may be my only chance at really tasting their juices how they were meant to be.

If you don't use the right atomizer, their juices can really tend to taste salty, oily (as in herb or vegetable oil), or just almost tasteless. The one thing that's odd is if I get a little of their juice on my fingers, it tends to burn a tad, where as other 0mg juices don't seem to do this. I'm a little concerned as to why that is. Could just be the sensitivity of my hands at the time period, but I just don't know. I do know that their juices do create heavy clouds, but the fact that they're %100VG makes these juices, even with distilled water added, very thick.

I tried Burley Beard, Caramel Swirl, and Candy Bar, and Candy Bar was really the one I had any luck at all with tasting sort of like what it should - I got it to taste very Reese Puffs in tone, which was nice. Their juices do have a thick texture on the mouth, probably the thickest in texture I've gotten out of any juice. So it seems to point toward that there's no chemicals making the juice thinner.

You should try some of their sampler packs. I love most of their juices, but I really didn't like Candy Bar. Mewlew's Magic and Sour Skittles are representative of their juices, and to me, the best in a long list of great juices - and I have, and vape, most of them, about a liter of their stuff at last count.

 

[Scott_Simpson]

I recall an episode of the Vape Team dedicated to DIY where one of the quests was Kurt the chemist (a real, professional chemist), and he said that you should keep anything organic (i.e., lipids, essential oils, fats, etc.) out of your e-juice. Apparently, the lungs cannot properly handle and expel these flavors. According to him, the safest flavorings are the synthetics. To me, any juice company that touts their "organic" flavors is automatically suspect ...

 

[Criticalmass]

I recall an episode of the Vape Team dedicated to DIY where one of the quests was Kurt the chemist (a real, professional chemist), and he said that you should keep anything organic (i.e., lipids, essential oils, fats, etc.) out of your e-juice. Apparently, the lungs cannot properly handle and expel these flavors. According to him, the safest flavorings are the synthetics. To me, any juice company that touts their "organic" flavors is automatically suspect ...

This, and Organic is just a label that almost anyone will slap on their products these days if it makes them a few more sales. It means a lot less than people think it does.

 

[quittoride]

Ok Critical Mass. I saw that episode too and it concerned me, so I guess what I'm really looking for are companies that do not use diacetyl, the chemical that can turn to diacetyl (the name escapes me) and no artificial sweeteners, and a palm oil vg base. That would make me pretty happy. Know of any? I was only looking at organic to try to stay away from GMO's in soy based vg base and the artificial sweeteners, aspartame or sucralose.

 

[Criticalmass]

Ok Critical Mass. I saw that episode too and it concerned me, so I guess what I'm really looking for are companies that do not use diacetyl, the chemical that can turn to diacetyl (the name escapes me) and no artificial sweeteners, and a palm oil vg base. That would make me pretty happy. Know of any? I was only looking at organic to try to stay away from GMO's in soy based vg base and the artificial sweeteners, aspartame or sucralose.

What type of sweetener would you have them use?

 

[firephly]

This, and Organic is just a label that almost anyone will slap on their products these days if it makes them a few more sales. It means a lot less than people think it does.

if something is certified organic it does have to comply with certain standards Questions and Answers About Organic - Organic Trade Association

 

[firephly]

Ok Critical Mass. I saw that episode too and it concerned me, so I guess what I'm really looking for are companies that do not use diacetyl, the chemical that can turn to diacetyl (the name escapes me) and no artificial sweeteners, and a palm oil vg base. That would make me pretty happy. Know of any? I was only looking at organic to try to stay away from GMO's in soy based vg base and the artificial sweeteners, aspartame or sucralose.

Try Dripeez, I've been very happy with them:

Ingredients

FLAVORING EXTRACTS: All of Dripeez E-Liquids are flavored with pure food grade extract. Most extracts are alcohol free. All flavors that contain alcohol will have it listed in the description. All extracts are created by CO2 or cold-pressed extraction methods. ALL EXTRACTS ARE CREATED WITHOUT THE USE OF ANY COLORANTS, FILLERS, DILUTING AGENTS OR PRESERVATIVES. ALL OF OUR EXTRACTS ARE WHEAT-, GLUTEN-, ALCOHOL (UNLESS NOTED) FREE & CONTAIN NO BASE INGREDIENT.

PROPYLENE GLYCOL: Propylene Glycol is ONLY in your e-liquid if requested. It is USP, Kosher, & Food Grade, 99-100% Pure.

VEGETABLE GLYCERIN: Vegetable Glycerin is in all e-liquids. It to is USP, Kosher, & Food Grade, 99-100% Pure. Derived from Palm.

NICOTINE: Dripeez uses nicotine in a vegetable glycerin base. Each new batch we receive is tested to ensure accuracy.

DISTILLED WATER: Distilled water is added to some recipes to thin the liquid to the perfect viscosity to maximize your e-cigarette performance.

OUR PRODUCTS DO NOT CONTAIN ANY: FOOD COLORING, PROPYLENE GLYCOL (PG), ETHYL ALCOHOL, ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, ARTIFICIAL EXTRACTS,DIACETYL, STEVIA, ACACIA GUM, JWH-018, JWH-073, JWH-200, JWH-250, HU-210, CP47, OTHER SYNTHETICS, SWEETENERS, OR CHEMICAL ADDITIVES.

Natural & Organic E-liquids - About Us Dripeez

 

[Criticalmass]

if something is certified organic it does have to comply with certain standards Questions and Answers About Organic - Organic Trade Association

Using organic sweetener does not eliminate the problem of the lungs not being able to process it. So, the ingredients they use are "organic" As applied to e-liquid this means a big whopping, not a whole lot.

 

[firephly]

Using organic sweetener does not eliminate the problem of the lungs not being able to process it. So, the ingredients they use are "organic" As applied to e-liquid this means a big whopping, not a whole lot.

some companies use no sweeteners at all, dripeez & grizzly vapes for example

 

[quittoride]

thanks Firephly, I'll check out dripeez