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stealthmayhem

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I want (nay, NEED) a Raven's Nest and the VAMO. Is there a 12 step program for this affliction? If so, the first step will be admitting I have a problem and I am so not ready to do that!:evil:

I haven't heard of one, but I am using the "couch therapy" technique. I buy what I want, and when the bill comes in, my wife makes me sleep on the couch.:blush:
 

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You'll be hitting the same watts, but less amps. Less amps used = more battery life.

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Yessir... I get better results with lower resistance and lower voltage. More amps and quicker coil heat up time :)

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Thanks for the input on the twist. I will pass it on to my aunt. For the twist users: what's you're favorite juice delivery for those things?

My main device is the iClear16. It goes through e-liquid like there's no tomorrow, but the flavor and extra vapor is well worth the trade-off. I use the iClear30, too, when I'm out and about, simply because of the larger capacity.
 
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10 watts at 4.0 volts draws 2.5 amps of current (using 1.6 ohm resistance)
10 watts at 5.0 volts draws 2.0 amps of current (using 2.5 ohm resistance)

The capacity of a battery is a measure of how many amps it can deliver for how long.
If a battery is supplying less amps to provide the same wattage, it will last longer before needing to be recharged.

What am I missing?
 
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10 watts at 4.0 volts draws 2.5 amps of current (using 1.6 ohm resistance)
10 watts at 5.0 volts draws 2.0 amps of current (using 2.5 ohm resistance)


What am I missing?

I agree, DC2. Lower amps should result in longer run time. Batteries are certainly rated by voltage - and by Ah. In the case of small batteries, mAh.

The capacity of a battery is a measure of how many amps it can deliver for how long.
If a battery is supplying less amps to provide the same wattage, it will last longer before needing to be recharged. Other element of the circuit and its design may also have an impact on time between charges.

Yessir... I get better results with lower resistance and lower voltage. More amps and quicker coil heat up time :)

Truth to that, too. We have different vaping styles, wants and needs. Being aware of how the different setups alter the vape helps to make an informed decision. Or even a different way of looking at the issue, to try a new configuration for oneself.

My main device is the iClear16. It goes through e-liquid like there's no tomorrow, but the flavor and extra vapor is well worth the trade-off. I use the iClear30, too, when I'm out and about, simply because of the larger capacity.

While my personal preference in clearos leans toward bottom coils, imo Mountain Rain's got the right idea - who care's how long the battery goes - you do have backups and spares, right? - it's all about the vape!
 

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So true. I need to enjoy my vape alot or forget it. That goes with flavors and which clearo, etc., I'm using. If it's not real enjoyable, it's not worth it to me. I'm not the type to suck on a clearomizer for weeks on end getting that last bit of longevity out of the coil to save $2. lol. Why waste amazing juice on a crappy clearo? Just saying....Same goes with batt longevity. You love something that sucks up the batts, then get more batts. lol. I did finally get the iClear16 and not too thrilled with it. I have to say that I have only tried one juice in it that I'm not familiar with so maybe it's the juice. I don't get as much vapor and flavor as I do my rebuilt vivi nova heads with cotton wicks, or the evods. But like I said, I haven't given it enough use maybe. I really need to put my all day vape flavor in it and see how it performs to get a better idea.
 

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10 watts at 4.0 volts draws 2.5 amps of current (using 1.6 ohm resistance)
10 watts at 5.0 volts draws 2.0 amps of current (using 2.5 ohm resistance)

The capacity of a battery is a measure of how many amps it can deliver for how long.
If a battery is supplying less amps to provide the same wattage, it will last longer before needing to be recharged.

What am I missing?
Volts

Think of a water pipe that empties a tank of water.

At the same pressure a tank with a big wide pipe will empty faster than one with small pipe.

But if you apply enough pressure to the tank with the small pipe it will empty faster then the one with the big pipe.

The tank is your battery. The diameter of the pipe represents amps.
The size of the hole is resistance. The amount of water flowing is watts.

This is simple explanation.Ohm's Law - The basics - Ohms Law Formulas Explained to save you time
 
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While my personal preference in clearos leans toward bottom coils, imo Mountain Rain's got the right idea - who care's how long the battery goes - you do have backups and spares, right? - it's all about the vape!

I do care how lone the battery charge lasts for one simple reason. I live in hurricane country. A week or 2 long power outage is a real possibility.

For that reason I have a USB solar charger/backup battery for my egos and I am making the transition over to big battery devices. SO far a Vamo a gripper and just ordered a K100.

Being able to make it that week or 2 = PRICELESS
 

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For a power outage that long, you're going to need a box of batteries anyway.... so the solar charger is a good idea.

But a lighter adapter would also make sense. Don't have to run the car, just put the key in "accessory" position to power up the lighter / power outlet, and charge away.

Or just run jumper cables from the car's battery to the clearo and vape at 12 volts? :blink: (I'd suggest a high resistance coil for this...)
 

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Volts

Think of a water pipe that empties a tank of water.

At the same pressure a tank with a big wide pipe will empty faster than one with small pipe.

But if you apply enough pressure to the tank with the small pipe it will empty faster then the one with the big pipe.

The tank is your battery. The diameter of the pipe represents amps.
The size of the hole is resistance. The amount of water flowing is watts.

This is simple explanation.Ohm's Law - The basics - Ohms Law Formulas Explained to save you time

Except your analogy is off. The amperage would be how fast the water is flowing, not the diameter of the pipe through which it is flowing. Even the link you cite states this,

" What is current? An analogy would be the amount of flow determined by the pressure (voltage) of the water thru the pipes leading to a faucet. The term current refers to the quantity, volume or intensity of electrical flow, as opposed to voltage, which refers to the force or "pressure" causing the current flow."

The quantity of power leaving the battery is measured in amps, a battery's capacity is measured in amps (or milliamps). We're not talking AC, where watts is what you watch, this is DC power, amps matter.

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I do care how lone the battery charge lasts for one simple reason. I live in hurricane country. A week or 2 long power outage is a real possibility.

For that reason I have a USB solar charger/backup battery for my egos and I am making the transition over to big battery devices. SO far a Vamo a gripper and just ordered a K100.

Being able to make it that week or 2 = PRICELESS
It is priceless. Most of us here battled with smoking for years and decades. If I put a 1.5 ohm cartomizer on my eGo I can get around 6 hours out of it. Plus I get tired of refilling. The solar charger is a good idea, but if it's cloudy you may have a problem. My advice is: get a gas powered generator. Put an atomizer on it and just drip the darned thing at 5 horse
:p ! On a serious note. I keep a stock of disposables. If the zombie apocalypse ever happens, I am going to be too busy shooting to refill and charge ;)
 

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Except your analogy is off. The amperage would be how fast the water is flowing, not the diameter of the pipe through which it is flowing. Even the link you cite states this,

" What is current? An analogy would be the amount of flow determined by the pressure (voltage) of the water thru the pipes leading to a faucet. The term current refers to the quantity, volume or intensity of electrical flow, as opposed to voltage, which refers to the force or "pressure" causing the current flow."

The quantity of power leaving the battery is measured in amps, a battery's capacity is measured in amps (or milliamps). We're not talking AC, where watts is what you watch, this is DC power, amps matter.
msween00.html, you are right my anology was wrong.

Batteries capacity is measured in amps but at the battery's voltage of the battery being tested. If we were talking about a mechanical mod where the voltage is the same as the battery you would be rigth that the the use of more amps would drain the battery faster.

However are dealing with a variable volt mod. Because we are changing the volts we can no longer use amps to tell how long a battery lasts.

Watts = Amps x Volts.

So
10 watts = 5 amps x 2 volts

10 watts = 2 amps x 5 volts

Even thought the amps change the battery would last the same amount of time.
 
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msween00.html, you are right my anology was wrong.

Batteries capacity is measured in amps but at the battery's voltage of the battery being tested. If we were talking about a mechanical mod where the voltage is the same as the battery you would be rigth that the the use of more amps would drain the battery faster.

However are dealing with a variable volt mod. Because we are changing the volts we can no longer use amps to tell how long a battery lasts.

Watts = Amps x Volts.

So
10 watts = 5 amps x 2 volts

10 watts = 2 amps x 5 volts

Even thought the amps change the battery would last the same amount of time.
No. The example with 5 volts will last a LOT longer than the example with 2 volts.
Whatever draws more amps will drain the battery faster.
 

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Whatever circuitry is used to adjust the voltage will also consume power. That power obviously also has to come from the battery. It may or may not be a constant load, regardless of the selected output voltage to the coil, depending on it's design, and will be a factor in battery life.

But the power delivered by the battery to the coil is the big consumer and major component. Less total current draw should provide longer run time. All power used by the system has to come from the battery, unless you have some way to beam it in to the control circuit.
 
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