Kanger Nebox Starter Kit - New Concept Temperature Control
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I found this last night, looks like you're not alone:
But he says filling it up only half way stop it. Let us know how it goes :/
I really like the egrip especially with the ego one clr coils. For me it's nearly perfect as an out and about device. Yes I would like a bit more battery life but I like the side fill door because I use unflavored and my coils last a really long time. It's easy to refill on the go. I'll probably wait awhile on the neo. A little too big and you have to unscrew the coil to refill. I wish they had included a side fill door.
Hopefully this will inspire Joyetech to make an egrip with a bit more battery life.
Hopefully this will inspire Joyetech to make an egrip with a bit more battery life.
Got a white one today from local bm. Got a decent deal for cash, no shipping no tax. Put in the .5 coil it reads 3.9. Easy to set up, watch vaping chronicles review on utube , with lots more than in the manual. It is nice, 10 mls awesome, rattling buttons, no big deal. It works just as good if not better than my other subtanks on various mods. Nice feel, nice favor, amesome vapor (have to quit using 12 nic) so I can turn it up and not get dizzy. I like it alot. Its not a radius with a kabuki, but it's damn good. For under 70 bucks u can't go wrong. Hope it doesn't leak sitting over night. Buy one u will like it.
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turn it over, unscrew coil, press fire button so display reads 9.99. reinstall coil. press fire button, should get new coil prompt & it should read correct resistance thereafter according to what others have said.
My 2 preordered units aren't scheduled to ship until at least the end of the week.
My 2 preordered units aren't scheduled to ship until at least the end of the week.
Hey Tpat591 how's it going? My nebox arrived today and I honestly can't believe I didn't spot the polycarbonate tank on this thing, I'm gutted!
Any tips for ti coils in the rba section would be most welcome?
So long as your juice is not a heavy citrus, heavy cinnamon, or heavily menthol there shouldn't be a problem with the tank. Have 5 subtanks but never really played too much with the rbas on them because I was working in the field relying on a series of egrips and later I moved up quickly to Lemo 2 and Crown tanks. I'll be learning that rba very soon myself as well but like any rba its all about the wicking. YouTube has plenty of vids! Titanium is good for both spaced & contact but unless your using a subtank base to work out the hot spots I'd recommend spaced.Hey Tpat591 how's it going? My nebox arrived today and I honestly can't believe I didn't spot the polycarbonate tank on this thing, I'm gutted!
Any tips for ti coils in the rba section would be most welcome?
Got faith in you my friend. You will do fine!
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So how does it vape? Fuly open subtank draw or a little more restricted? We got a guy on the other nebox thread who burned up two of the older Kanger ni200 occs in his saying TC wont work with them as mod pulses full to low power under TC torching the coils. That's a little disconcerting.
USPS has my two in transit. Hoping to have them by Saturday. Until then, I have to live vicariously through your reports.
USPS has my two in transit. Hoping to have them by Saturday. Until then, I have to live vicariously through your reports.
Morning sorry didn't post back I got to 2am and called it quits. Quick post just to update and will get down with it more later on. Initial impressions are that it could use some refinement as the button rattle is horrible, the drip tip would not fit till i found a smaller o ring and the plastic tank is a real downer considering were in 2015. Ok so i may not be using any tank crackers but we all know plastic can hold flavour so with it being all in one ive got concerns over how gonna get it clean enough. As least the egrip has a pyrex tank so just rinse and repeat. Yeah I've not used a subtank as I've always been rta's with build decks but it is easy enough but dual coils gonna be a PITA. Like you said Tpat591 it's all in the wicking and I've had it leak already through the big hole in the bottom of the coil base similar to egrip rba. This poses a concern though as I got juice between the bottom contact of the coil and the base so in tc this could reak havoc with the resistances.
All the threading seems clean and ok although I have longevity concerns with the brass threading on the battery cap but only time will tell.
Which is the other thread regarding the nebox and the coils? I did have a quick search but couldn't find the one you referee to. I've not bothered with the stock coils as I've no intension of using them unless it's an emergency. For Speed I've stuck in one of the kanthal coils that came with the rba section and in power mode it's fine as you would expect, cooler vape due to chimney length but I'm used to the egrip so no worries there.
I'm holding off on Ti coil till later this morning as im gonna borrow one my mate subanks so I can make a contact coil as well as spaced for a tc comparison. I never gave it a thought as to how I would pulse a coil with out a base.
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Forgot to mention the airflow, with the rba it's like a slightly restricted lung hit which I quite like. I can't compare to a subtank yet but about the same as my billow v2 on 2/3 open.
All the threading seems clean and ok although I have longevity concerns with the brass threading on the battery cap but only time will tell.
Which is the other thread regarding the nebox and the coils? I did have a quick search but couldn't find the one you referee to. I've not bothered with the stock coils as I've no intension of using them unless it's an emergency. For Speed I've stuck in one of the kanthal coils that came with the rba section and in power mode it's fine as you would expect, cooler vape due to chimney length but I'm used to the egrip so no worries there.
I'm holding off on Ti coil till later this morning as im gonna borrow one my mate subanks so I can make a contact coil as well as spaced for a tc comparison. I never gave it a thought as to how I would pulse a coil with out a base.
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Forgot to mention the airflow, with the rba it's like a slightly restricted lung hit which I quite like. I can't compare to a subtank yet but about the same as my billow v2 on 2/3 open.
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Cheers for posting the info Tpat591 that's gonna keep me busy tonight, soon as I got something worth sharing on the rba I will post back. I have had a nightmare day and have only just got home and not even had time to build yet. Mate let me down on the subtank base so gonna do some spaced ti later and go buy a subank in the morning. Read the other thread about the ni coil woes, not liking the look of that as if the threading is the same on both types I can't see there being any other differences to cause the issues unless it's leaked juice causing resistance fluctuations.
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Pbusardo just posted the review on vtc mini but not had time to watch it yet.
Off topic
Pbusardo just posted the review on vtc mini but not had time to watch it yet.
Received my black one from breezy today and started it up under temp control with pre installed ni200 coil and I have to agree there are definite issues with temp control in these. it is erratic and I have had a few dry hits. I have also had long preheat times on coil at 60w and even a few issues where I pressed fire button and despite display lighting and I believe showing voltage to coil no power was applied. Cannot believe reviewers have not noticed these issues but I have not really played with it looking for loose connections as I have been very busy today.
I can confirm unstable operation in TC with preinstalled NI200 coil but have not had time to figure out if it is my fault or not. Just pulled coil head & tightened down stock coil & seems more reliable so far so it might just have been loose.
I can confirm unstable operation in TC with preinstalled NI200 coil but have not had time to figure out if it is my fault or not. Just pulled coil head & tightened down stock coil & seems more reliable so far so it might just have been loose.
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I have tried an older style Kanger authentic square ni200 coil in Nebox. it was read at 0.23ohm. I confirm full power / zero power rattle-snaking TC operation.
Not A Good Sign at ALL! Looking like there are definite issues with TC on this mod with the old coils. Starting to look like Kanger rushed this product to market way too early before working out the TC bugs! Why haven't the 27 different reviewers reported shortcomings? Maybe I am doing something wrong.
Time to try to read the manual I guess!
Not A Good Sign at ALL! Looking like there are definite issues with TC on this mod with the old coils. Starting to look like Kanger rushed this product to market way too early before working out the TC bugs! Why haven't the 27 different reviewers reported shortcomings? Maybe I am doing something wrong.
Time to try to read the manual I guess!
Upon switching back to the new cylindrical NI200 coil that came preinstalled in the Nebox and ensuring it was sufficiently tight, the Nebox insists on reading it's resistance as between 0.27 ohm and 0.23ohm where it was reading it as 0.15ohm previously. This coil was overheated to the point of giving a dry/almost burnt hit more than once before I realized it was not tight enough in base causing TC to become unstable.
I haven't got an authentic subtank base handy at the moment but a FT clone base is reading this coil out as 0.31 ohm on my meter & a vs200. It does appear to be vaping in TC stably at this point though under settings of 50w, 340deg f. It is vaping much warmer than that though as compared to a dna 200 running a crown w/ stock coils under TC 316L @ 480deg f 50w. I assume because the base resistance is high on the mod or the ni200 coil was overheated. My initial observations and cautions:
Nebox comes with the ni200 coil preinstalled but not tight enough in the base so it jumps all over the place under TC getting progressively worse as mod heats up and can overheat easily causing dry hits intermittently.
TIGHTEN THE COIL INTO THE BASE AND INSTALL BASE TIGHTLY INTO MOD BEFORE USING IN TC! IF YOU DON'T AS IT HEATS THE COIL UNDER VAPING, IT WILL BECOME UNSTABLE AND OVERHEAT YOUR COIL.
START AT A MUCH LOWER WATTAGE & TEMPERATURE SETTING THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD AND WHEN YOU ARE SURE IT IS STABLE INCREASE YOUR SETTINGS.
NEBOX DOES NOT APPEAR TO EMPLOY A PREHEAT PUNCH. YOU WILL EVENTUALLY WANT YOUR VAPING WATTAGE UP THERE AFTER YOU ARE SURE YOUR COIL IS STABLE - NOT UNTIL.
WIRE GAUGE IN THE OLDER NI200 COILS MAY BE A LOT LIGHTER THAN WHAT IS USED IN THE NEW COILS AND i BELIEVE NEBOX EMPLOYS A TC PULSE THAT IS LESS FREQUENT THAN OTHER TC MODS. AS SUCH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT A LIGHTER WIRE GAUGE USED IN OLDER COILS REACTS TOO QUICKLY FOR NEBOX TO REGULATE CAUSING RATTLESNAKING TC. FULL POWER/NO POWER. THIS WILL TORCH THE OLD COILS QUICKLY AT 60W.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WILL BE A PROBLEM WITH THE OLDER KANTHAL COILS IN NON TC MODE.
If anyone has any other theories on what exactly is causing this behavior, I'd love to hear them.
I haven't got an authentic subtank base handy at the moment but a FT clone base is reading this coil out as 0.31 ohm on my meter & a vs200. It does appear to be vaping in TC stably at this point though under settings of 50w, 340deg f. It is vaping much warmer than that though as compared to a dna 200 running a crown w/ stock coils under TC 316L @ 480deg f 50w. I assume because the base resistance is high on the mod or the ni200 coil was overheated. My initial observations and cautions:
Nebox comes with the ni200 coil preinstalled but not tight enough in the base so it jumps all over the place under TC getting progressively worse as mod heats up and can overheat easily causing dry hits intermittently.
TIGHTEN THE COIL INTO THE BASE AND INSTALL BASE TIGHTLY INTO MOD BEFORE USING IN TC! IF YOU DON'T AS IT HEATS THE COIL UNDER VAPING, IT WILL BECOME UNSTABLE AND OVERHEAT YOUR COIL.
START AT A MUCH LOWER WATTAGE & TEMPERATURE SETTING THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD AND WHEN YOU ARE SURE IT IS STABLE INCREASE YOUR SETTINGS.
NEBOX DOES NOT APPEAR TO EMPLOY A PREHEAT PUNCH. YOU WILL EVENTUALLY WANT YOUR VAPING WATTAGE UP THERE AFTER YOU ARE SURE YOUR COIL IS STABLE - NOT UNTIL.
WIRE GAUGE IN THE OLDER NI200 COILS MAY BE A LOT LIGHTER THAN WHAT IS USED IN THE NEW COILS AND i BELIEVE NEBOX EMPLOYS A TC PULSE THAT IS LESS FREQUENT THAN OTHER TC MODS. AS SUCH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT A LIGHTER WIRE GAUGE USED IN OLDER COILS REACTS TOO QUICKLY FOR NEBOX TO REGULATE CAUSING RATTLESNAKING TC. FULL POWER/NO POWER. THIS WILL TORCH THE OLD COILS QUICKLY AT 60W.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WILL BE A PROBLEM WITH THE OLDER KANTHAL COILS IN NON TC MODE.
If anyone has any other theories on what exactly is causing this behavior, I'd love to hear them.
Finished coiling a 24g, 9 wrap, 3mm id, TI T1 spaced coil in RBA. 0.26ohm on my meter base using the clone base, Nebox read it at 0.30 ohm. Running 40w 340deg f. at the moment. Working and stable in TC. Stepping up temp slowly but the Nic is getting to me right now & need to stop for a while. Gonna have to order juice w/ less nic!
If the square coils work in the nebox, do the new round coils work in the subtanks? Anyone have a link to these new round couls?
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Hey all well I finally had chance to mess about a bit with the nebox and titanium in the rba and for the most part it seems stable. I seem to have nailed the wicking now as I've not had a single leek last couple of days which is a relief as the egrip drilled out base weeped a bit even using the clr coils. Love the airflow its perfect for me so not worried about it being non adjustable at all, the plastic tank is my biggest let down as I may not use tank crackers but would be nice not having to think about Wat juice I'm using.
I've not bothered using any pre made coils as there not my thing so I went and picked up a spare rba so I can keep one ready built and subtank base for pulsing contact ti coils. So I've tried 24 & 26g gr1 ti in spaced and contact form and they all seem to work fine with good flavour and vapour, I've not tried any twisted or claptoned builds yet as to be honest I'm struggling to find a benefit for them in tc. On the whole I've not had any major issues with stability and think the pulsing in tc is confined to the pre built coils. To echo what Tpat591 has said though I would not trust the readings this mod is giving in regards to resistance or temperature. The resistance is always read high on the nebox compared to my meters and i find that it's way overpowered compared to my vtc mini as at 180°c it's like 260°c on the evic. Obviously the higher resistance reading is linked to this effect so I have to start low and work up slowly to get it sweet but I also find myself adjusting the temp more than usual to get a consistent vape. Dunno what is going on with the preheat/watts as I have to keep them low at around 35/40w or its like lava in my mouth! Now my understanding is that you should be able to run max watts and all it will do is ramp up to temp quicker and then protect but this thing is slow in regards to temp protecting and at 60w it's tasting burnt before it cuts in. Any ways it's going to do the job as an all in one tc mod for work that I can keep in my pocket without fear of snapping a 510 again! Can't wait to see what joyetech brings to the tablenext in response to this though.
I've not bothered using any pre made coils as there not my thing so I went and picked up a spare rba so I can keep one ready built and subtank base for pulsing contact ti coils. So I've tried 24 & 26g gr1 ti in spaced and contact form and they all seem to work fine with good flavour and vapour, I've not tried any twisted or claptoned builds yet as to be honest I'm struggling to find a benefit for them in tc. On the whole I've not had any major issues with stability and think the pulsing in tc is confined to the pre built coils. To echo what Tpat591 has said though I would not trust the readings this mod is giving in regards to resistance or temperature. The resistance is always read high on the nebox compared to my meters and i find that it's way overpowered compared to my vtc mini as at 180°c it's like 260°c on the evic. Obviously the higher resistance reading is linked to this effect so I have to start low and work up slowly to get it sweet but I also find myself adjusting the temp more than usual to get a consistent vape. Dunno what is going on with the preheat/watts as I have to keep them low at around 35/40w or its like lava in my mouth! Now my understanding is that you should be able to run max watts and all it will do is ramp up to temp quicker and then protect but this thing is slow in regards to temp protecting and at 60w it's tasting burnt before it cuts in. Any ways it's going to do the job as an all in one tc mod for work that I can keep in my pocket without fear of snapping a 510 again! Can't wait to see what joyetech brings to the tablenext in response to this though
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