Kanger: Unauthorized website selling counterfeit goods

[LewAz]

Go to SHENZHEN KANGER TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD before you purchase your Kangertech. This is a list of unauthorized distributors and those selling counterfeit Kanger products. Kanger will not service or replace any product purchased at any dealer on the list. BTW...fasttech is on the list. Caveat emptor

 

[Baditude]

This has been an issue with vaping products for years, not just Kanger. Chinese manufacturers don't have to follow any copyright or trademark infringement laws, so "clones" or counterfeits are common. Those are usually less expensive and of questionable quality. Counterfeiting is a HUGE business, most of it originating from disreputable businesses in China.

This is especially true with batteries. Ego batteries are not a brand name, but a class of batteries. Evod, Joytech, and Vision are the most reputable brand names, the others are just generics or clones of questionable quality.

The replaceable external batteries we use in mods also run into authentic vs counterfeit issues. AW, LG, Orbtronics, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony are reputable brands with specifications that you can trust. Efest re-wraps the cells from those companies with a different wrapper, and usually over-rates the specs along with charging higher prices. There have been proven cases where AW and Sony batteries have been counterfeited with poor quality cells and made to look almost like the real thing.

Battery Basics for Mods

Purple Efest Batteries Not As Advertised

 

[Rixsta]

.FastTech is on the list.

No shock there, I'm not even going to get started on that company.

 

[caferacer]

I see that 101Vape is on the list. I guess I'd better stop recommending them to others...

 

[Alien Traveler]

No shock there, I'm not even going to get started on that company.

In contrast to others, Fasttech always says whether product is authentic.
One of the best suppliers of hardware by far.

 

[IgnorantCig]

Counterfeiting is obviously huge in China. It's strange how so many counterfeit sites shown on that list are located in Shenzhen. You'd figure that Kangertech would be able to go after the counterfeiters and at least be able to shut down the businesses that are located in the same town that they are. There seems to be a whole bunch of them located in Shenzhen.

I'm vaping on a kangertech evod right now, and I'm assuming that mine is authentic. The place where I bought my kit from is not on that list.

Counterfeit goods can be deadly. I know that people have died before, because they used counterfeit chargers for their cell phones and iPhones, just to save a few dollars. Is somebody so cheap that their life is only worth a couple of bucks?

I would never use any counterfeit batteries, chargers or similar electronic devices, because I prefer to live instead of die.

 

[Ou2mame]

I've bought a few clones that were advertised as authentics, but got refunds for them, or partial at least. I buy most my gear off of ebay because it's usually cheaper with shipping, and they cover the seller pretty damn well even after a listing has been taken down because it's tobacco related. Which the first time that happened I was completely shocked. But most of my purchases have been what was advertised so I'd say it's a pretty safe bet.

 

[Thespis]

They list vapingcheap. AFAIK, they don't sell anything. They just link to vendors with low prices.

 

[Ou2mame]

Lol yeah they are just a coupon code site pretty much. Maybe it's cause they advertise clones? They advertise ft a lot. But it's cool that they also list USA links when they can.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

Fasttech is one of the few that will state if an item is "Authentic". When they have authentic items, it doesn't always mean they purchased the items directly from the authentic maker, which is what pisses off some of the name brand companies.

But tell me, if the factory that makes the 10,000 unit run for Kangertech, turns around and runs out another 20,000 and sells them directly to other places and them calls them "style", are they actually clones? Hmmm

 

[Thrasher]

The Chinese mod makers are guilty of price fixing, they will pull authorised status if you refuse to sell their products at their set price.
Joyetech does same thing.

Several of those unauthorized dealers set up satellite companies to keep buying and then sell them lower.

Say what you want, and fasttech is why scratch codes started. What really pisses kanger, innokin and others off even more is somehow the codes are all legit

 

[Bad Ninja]

The Chinese mod makers are guilty of price fixing, they will pull authorised status if you refuse to sell their products at their set price.
Joyetech does same thing.

Several of those unauthorized dealers set up satellite companies to keep buying and then sell them lower.

Say what you want, and fasttech is why scratch codes started. What really pisses kanger, innokin and others off even more is somehow the codes are all legit

Fasttech sells legit kanger products but they ALSO sell clones.

Fasttech probably moves more legit kanger products than any other single retailer, and kanger sells directly to them.
It's all about that money.
Btw
Fasttech's warranty is as good or better than Kangers.

 

[Thrasher]

Yea its funny they all pretend to hate on fasttech, but places like angelcig and gearbest get a pass? They just won't admit it so other vendors don't get tweaked at the volume discount they probably give fasttech

 

[Shipwreck]

OK... now I'm confused.... I was actually just about to post a thread asking about Fasttech bgecause I am looking at some of the new stuff I want to order there and they are a lot less expensive than anywhere else I have seen... My post was going to ask if they sell authentic or not because I have read a lot about cheap less quality knockoffs....
Some here are saying Fasttech are good and some are saying not.... @Thrasher , you mention the authenticayou saying Fasttech uses ftion codes and kanger, innokin and others are ...... off because somehow the codes are all legit.... Are you saying Fasttech uses fake codes that turn up legit or that they are indeed genuine products and the companies are just being vindictive towards Fasttech?

I'm on a tight budget, but I also want to make sure I get authentic good quality at a decent price but if i absolutely have to pay a bit more to get genuine I will. But if I don't have to I'd prefer not to... Soooo.... Is Fasttech trust worthy or no?

 

[MacTechVpr]

Fasttech is one of the few that will state if an item is "Authentic". When they have authentic items, it doesn't always mean they purchased the items directly from the authentic maker, which is what pisses off some of the name brand companies.

But tell me, if the factory that makes the 10,000 unit run for Kangertech, turns around and runs out another 20,000 and sells them directly to other places and them calls them "style", are they actually clones? Hmmm

Anything non-conforming to OEM spec and (presumptively) not authorized. Or we can just hit the piñata, see what comes out.

G'luck.

 

[crxess]

Many Manufacturers like Kanger, Innokin, etc. list sites as selling counterfeits when in reality they are simply Not buying Direct. All of these companies use Middle man sales(Reps) that are more than willing to to purchase above official dealer request and sell overages Grey Market. Maybe No warranty, but fully Legit equipment.

You should expect to give something up - Factory Service - when purchasing at deep discounts.

Reputable sellers like Fasttech and Anglecig handle warranty issues in House, so you are still protected.

Know what you are buying.
Buy what you know.

 

[jseah]

Or it may be possible that Fasttech is on the "sinners list" because in addition to selling authentics, they also carry clones?

 

[Thrasher]

Yes the other companies are mad at fasttech
If it says authentic it is.

Here's why.

The Chinese companies ( joyetech admitted it) want product to move, they ask that all vendors carry the same price so stock is being sold,if sone vender says ummm 10 dollars less than everyone else the thinking is you might wait to buy it rather then getting it somewhere else. Causing one dealer to actually have people waiting to buy while stock sits everywhere else causing a back up. And if a vendor can't move stock they are less inclined to buy more later.

Here's what happened.

I think it was innokin, but don't hold me to it.

Fasttech started carrying thier products, they saw it was,20% cheaper and denied it was real, fasttech swore it was real, people buying it confirmed it was real.
Behind the scenes they figured out how fasttech got it, and cut them off.

A few weeks later fasttech had even more models, and innokin went into a rage, posting on websites that it was fake, they even started a PR campaign to control the damage.

So innokin and others got together and said we can prove it, now when you buy our products you get an authentication code that will prove what's fake or not.

Within days these new boxes started also appearing at fasttech, now a lot of clones off alibaba and other cloners sites had codes that didn't work.

Yet fastech had codes that came up as authentic, and they stated " see? We told you we aren't lying.


Through other people in the know, they stated fasttech actually has outside companies that purchase and distribute products to their main warehouse.

So for example they buy 5000 of something and a % goes to the retail stores with the rest getting dropped off at fasttech.

Fasttech is actually part of an e commerce network owned by a huge company with several businesses and websites.

Now no matter what they do these companies cannot find a way to stop their gear from ending up on fasttech.

This is not new, several other companies through the years have been going through this with other things fasttech sells besides ecigs and vaping gear.

How do you convince retailers to keep buying your crap when fasttech retail price is cheaper then the vendors wholesale price in effect showing everyone that- hey wait! Fastech is getting better wholesale pricing then we are, not fair!

 

[motordude]

Yes the other companies are mad at fasttech
If it says authentic it is.

Thanks for the info. I was wondering how these companies worked. It IS true, old people know things.

 

[Underwhelmed]

Yes the other companies are mad at fasttech
If it says authentic it is.

Here's why.

The Chinese companies ( joyetech admitted it) want product to move, they ask that all vendors carry the same price so stock is being sold,if sone vender says ummm 10 dollars less than everyone else the thinking is you might wait to buy it rather then getting it somewhere else. Causing one dealer to actually have people waiting to buy while stock sits everywhere else causing a back up. And if a vendor can't move stock they are less inclined to buy more later.

Here's what happened.

I think it was innokin, but don't hold me to it.

Fasttech started carrying thier products, they saw it was,20% cheaper and denied it was real, fasttech swore it was real, people buying it confirmed it was real.
Behind the scenes they figured out how fasttech got it, and cut them off.

A few weeks later fasttech had even more models, and innokin went into a rage, posting on websites that it was fake, they even started a PR campaign to control the damage.

So innokin and others got together and said we can prove it, now when you buy our products you get an authentication code that will prove what's fake or not.

Within days these new boxes started also appearing at fasttech, now a lot of clones off alibaba and other cloners sites had codes that didn't work.

Yet fastech had codes that came up as authentic, and they stated " see? We told you we aren't lying.


Through other people in the know, they stated fasttech actually has outside companies that purchase and distribute products to their main warehouse.

So for example they buy 5000 of something and a % goes to the retail stores with the rest getting dropped off at fasttech.

Fasttech is actually part of an e commerce network owned by a huge company with several businesses and websites.

Now no matter what they do these companies cannot find a way to stop their gear from ending up on fasttech.

This is not new, several other companies through the years have been going through this with other things fasttech sells besides ecigs and vaping gear.

How do you convince retailers to keep buying your crap when fasttech retail price is cheaper then the vendors wholesale price in effect showing everyone that- hey wait! Fastech is getting better wholesale pricing then we are, not fair!

Yeah, pretty sure that was the original SVD that started the authentification code deal.