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Quick question gummy bare, when your resistance was rising were you taking the ni coil out and putting back in warm or was it occurring at room temp?

the very first time i put the coil in it was reading 0.38ohms.... never raised to changed until today when i was recommended to pull it out, fire with no coil, then put it back in. At that time it went down to 0.23ohms. the mod had not been vaped on in about an hour and was sitting in a cool room when i did so. I did it again just now after it's been sitting for about 3 hours unvaped and in a cool room and the resistance stayed the same at 0.23ohms.
 

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Just almost right? I don't blame you re: titanium, I'm not too worried about these nickel coils so long as I keep mindful of not going dry, I'll probably just build an SS coil and relegate it to VW status as I like the form and function and I gave my VTC mini/Tfv4 mini to the wife! Whatever, there are other single TC mod candidates to look forward to for the black friday/Christmas season.

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Yeah no fear am I going back to the old habits I'm done with that :D. I really can't get on with nickel, it's the taste and I refuse to pay out for coils when I like building. I could keep it as a wattage mod but I already got a collection of those;). Still you have a point, tis nearly the season to be jolly and order some vape mail.
 
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so i said screw the Ni TC BS on this thing and go throw in the SS coil and rock it in wattage mode. If you remember my high Ti resistance readings from past posts on here (my 0.15ohm Ni coil was reading 0.38ohm, then 0.23ohm after re-locking it in).

So i get the 0.5ohm SS coil in and the resistance reads 0.77ohms. This is some wonky ... mod for sure. Accuracy isn't a trait it seems to have at all. So, are the new coils wonky or is the board on this thing a total POS? Still not getting a grate vape. airy and dry, not heavy and wet\moist like other subohm tanks i've used.
 
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so i said screw the Ni TC BS on this thing and go throw in the SS coil and rock it in wattage mode. If you remember my high Ti resistance readings from past posts on here (my 0.15ohm Ni coil was reading 0.38ohm, then 0.23ohm after re-locking it in).

So i get the 0.5ohm SS coil in and the resistance reads 0.77ohms. This is some wonky ... mod for sure. Accuracy isn't a trait it seems to have at all. So, are the new coils wonky or is the board on this thing a total POS? Still not getting a grate vape. airy and dry, not heavy and wet\moist like other subohm tanks i've used.
Not entirely sure. Most of the time we get answers to questions like these by each of us taking them apart and tinkering. Doesn't seem like that is an option with this mod. My vendor is contacting Kanger now for more info on the issues and I am reaching out to a few people I know to pick their brains as well to see what we can find out.
 
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Not entirely sure. Most of the time we get answers to questions like these by each of us taking them apart and tinkering. Doesn't seem like that is an option with this mod. My vendor is contacting Kanger now for more info on the issues and I am reaching out to a few people I know to pick their brains as well to see what we can find out.

maybe i got a "bad unit" then. I haven't seem many good reports so far other than reviewers that got the mod for free. Seems like most people that paid for the thing don't have super positive things to say so far. And with this 0.5ohm SS coil that's supposed to be vapeable at up to 60 watts, i can only vape it at a max of 25 watts without getting a dry hit. anything over 25watts and it's nothing put dry harsh hits. this is with 70/30 VG/PG juice.

starting to wish I ever bought this thing.... for real. about to contact my vendor and get a refund or store credit.
 

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maybe i got a "bad unit" then. I haven't seem many good reports so far other than reviewers that got the mod for free. Seems like most people that paid for the thing don't have super positive things to say so far. And with this 0.5ohm SS coil that's supposed to be vapeable at up to 60 watts, i can only vape it at a max of 25 watts without getting a dry hit. anything over 25watts and it's nothing put dry harsh hits. this is with 70/30 VG/PG juice.

starting to wish I ever bought this thing.... for real. about to contact my vendor and get a refund or store credit.

I'm still confused as to what material these new coils actually are as I've seen reports that the ss is in reference to the case of the coil not the wire and other reviewers who say the opposite! Either way it looks like yours atleast can't read a correct resistance but I think all these early units are plain broken. I will try mine later when I return home and let you know.
 
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maybe i got a "bad unit" then. I haven't seem many good reports so far other than reviewers that got the mod for free. Seems like most people that paid for the thing don't have super positive things to say so far. And with this 0.5ohm SS coil that's supposed to be vapeable at up to 60 watts, i can only vape it at a max of 25 watts without getting a dry hit. anything over 25watts and it's nothing put dry harsh hits. this is with 70/30 VG/PG juice.

starting to wish I ever bought this thing.... for real. about to contact my vendor and get a refund or store credit.
My experience with most kanger coils was always that they were designed for 12w - 50w range but are hard pressed to go much higher than about 30w. I have to confess that I never actually read the little card in the boxes and didn't spend a lot of time using the subtank as I tried other tanks like Lemo pretty early on and have used Egrips heavily as well since they first came out. The older occ coils were sometimes hit or miss and experienced resistance flu. I'm told the newer ones are supposed to be better than the older ones, but I scorched my NI200 coils cotton pretty quickly w/ nebox and haven't tried the new Nichrome SSOCC yet. Jumped right into using the RBA base which is much better than the stock coils and much cheaper and more reliable to maintain.

I am currently seeking swap out of mine under warranty but am also seeking more information as to how widespread the problem really is and what Kanger is currently doing about it. Not all that many of these in the field right now as we are still in pre-release and Information is scant at this time and most of it is not as good as it should be.
 
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I'm still confused as to what material these new coils actually are as I've seen reports that the ss is in reference to the case of the coil not the wire and other reviewers who say the opposite! Either way it looks like yours atleast can't read a correct resistance but I think all these early units are plain broken. I will try mine later when I return home and let you know.
SS refers to housing coil is in rather than chrome plated brass of old ones. The actual coil is Nichrome.
 
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Daniel got back to me and said Kanger is aware of the issues with high resistance readings and malfunctioning temperature control and are working to solve the issues now. They apologized to him for allowing mods with issues to hit the market and he is working behind the scenes with them now on behalf of the community to help them solve the issues

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Thanks for pointing it out, yes i know, my first one was doing that, to powerful vape for the setting, this one is a better vape, maybe some inconsistency beetwin devices or they corrected something but i agree with you, on my first one i felt the same and i saw the resistance reading issues you are pointing out, not on this one.
Thank you so much, of course i will never talk by others but i allways try my best to find all the defects on every single device and to push companies to solve their ..... I had so much mix feelings and i didn't expressed everything, sorry for that, but yet i recomended everyone to vape on Power mode as a regular device or on TC mode to not run out of juice.
Anyway the same day i released the review i sent Kanger the link to it and i asked are you going to make anything to correct this? They told "we are so sorry for the devices we already put out we are solving that issue due to wrong resistance readings the mod is firing to high"
I really hope is true my friend because if in a few weeks i get the new upcoming KBox with the same issues i will smash it.
Sorry if i didn't smashed this one so hard, but i allways try to be moderate and think on each case scenario, if i completelly smash it i will have so much complains like "you went so for with this one is still a good one for power mode" is allways difficult to be in the midle and helping them solving the issues in the background as an SME
 
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This was the reply to my email to Breazy reporting that a temperature control problem & resistance problem existed in this mod when I reported it the other day as defective attaching Daniel's Video and the screen grab of the results of his TC tests.

Thank you for reaching out to us with this information. We will pass these reports onto Kanger and see what they say. Regarding warranty, we cover devices that arrive dead or not as intended. Below I am providing you with the contact information for Kanger so you can also contact them regarding this. If you have any questions or additional information to share please feel free to contact me directly.

I did not take this well.

Later spoke with the owner after I emailed a copy if Step 2 of Kanger Warranty Policy to them and they said if I ship it back to them, they have to send it to Kanger for evaluation for repair/replacement at their discretion and it can take a considerable amount of time to get a replacement authorized and shipped.

They will not swap out of their stock as the units they are expecting to have shipped from china are slated for distribution to their customers patiently waiting for their deliveries.
 
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Conact Breazy for what? Warranty Replacement? By cut your losses you mean just suffer through with a non TC Mod?

Yes to both but after seeing Breazy's reply to you I will do the latter though I don't really consider it suffering, just burnt for being an early adopter.

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Yes to both but after seeing Breazy's reply to you I will do the latter though I don't really consider it suffering, just burnt for being an early adopter.

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So the online places we purchased the units from will not give money or store credit back? But yet sent us to kanger to work on getting a replacement from China over a long drawn out months of BS? And of course shipping charges will fall on us I'm assuming.


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So the online places we purchased the units from will not give money or store credit back? But yet sent us to kanger to work on getting a replacement from China over a long drawn out months of BS? And of course shipping charges will fall on us I'm assuming.


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Don't even think for a second Kanger will be replacing units that were already purchased. It's not their style. But you could purchase the V2 that will only have half of the problems the current version has.
 

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Evening all well I finally got a reply from my vendor in the uk and they sent me a prepaid return to RMA the device. Don't know what the outcome will be yet as they want the device to inspect so will keep you posted.
I've asked if they had contacted kanger and they said they had but were awaiting a reply. I asked what they intend to do but they said it depends on what they find wrong, I doubt this is gonna be easy but I like a challenge!
 

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Don't even think for a second Kanger will be replacing units that were already purchased. It's not their style. But you could purchase the V2 that will only have half of the problems the current version has.

Guess I'll have to blast Kanger every chance I get and insure nobody I know will buy anything from them anymore and tell all the B&M stores I got to that wanted a review of the NEBOX they knew I was getting to never buy any.

And of course give my money to pioneer4you (even through they come with their own issues themselves).

Back to my trusty mech mods and unregulated box mods for me. To many crappy boards in these regulated mods it seems.


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Evening all well I finally got a reply from my vendor in the uk and they sent me a prepaid return to RMA the device. Don't know what the outcome will be yet as they want the device to inspect so will keep you posted.
I've asked if they had contacted kanger and they said they had but were awaiting a reply. I asked what they intend to do but they said it depends on what they find wrong, I doubt this is gonna be easy but I like a challenge!
In the UK you have laws to protect the consumer. You will have no Issue with refund.
 
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Guess I'll have to blast Kanger every chance I get and insure nobody I know will buy anything from them anymore and tell all the B&M stores I got to that wanted a review of the NEBOX they knew I was getting to never buy any.

And of course give my money to pioneer4you (even through they come with their own issues themselves).

Back to my trusty mech mods and unregulated box mods for me. To many crappy boards in these regulated mods it seems.


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Try and relax a bit. We are all in this together. Before we sharpen the pitchforks over $50, lets take a breath. Breazy appears to be hedging a bit at this point because he has a considerable financial exposure here too and also has responsibilities to all the good folks who placed their preorders with him and are still waiting. It is not his fault Kanger did this, and I agree that he has people waiting to have their orders filled. He is reaching out to kanger to see what the status is on their end and try to figure something out.

I would urge anyone reaching out to communicate with them to please try to remain calm and see both sides of the issue because, while it may be satisfying to vent your frustrations on them, they will be much less likely to go out of their way to help all of us resolve our issues in a mutually beneficial manner when you are done.
 
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Try and relax a bit. We are all in this together. Before we sharpen the pitchforks over $50, lets take a breath. Breazy appears to be hedging a bit at this point because he has a considerable financial exposure here too and also has responsibilities to all the good folks who placed their preorders with him and are still waiting. It is not his fault Kanger did this, and I agree that he has people waiting to have their orders filled. He is reaching out to kanger to see what the status is on their end and try to figure something out.

I would urge anyone reaching out to communicate with them to please try to remain calm and see both sides of the issue because, why it may be satisfying to vent your frustrations on them, they will be much less likely to go out of their way to help all of us resolve our issues in a mutually beneficial manner when you are done.

Well said, keep calm and vape on:thumbs:
 
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