@ underwhelmd: It's rather circumstantial evidence, but (1) I've read a few more similar complaints in two non-English forums and (2) Kanger itself ditched the transparent insulators in favor of the tan ones. I assume it wasn't about aesthetics. 
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Rofl, thanks for that!
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I just finally read through the entire thread I placed an order for the mini this morning and well I think I now have a good idea what to expect. Definitely subscribing to this thread though. [emoji106]
Subtank Mini Newb here too, picked up a couple at my local B&M today. Going to throw some nickel builds in them later and see how they compare to my Lemos and my original 25mm subtank. Hopes are high!
I have the clear ones on the mini, vape mostly sweet stuff, vaped about 15 refills at between 15 to 25 w/mostly rba, no off taste and insulator looks solid
This is a rather unfortunate predicament that I or we are in regarding the PEEK insulators. It seems as though the tan ones are the third revision, but those of us with the clear are now left to decide if it's worth trying it, or request a new one and wait for them to show up.
I am not sure what I want to do, as others have said if the insulator degrades the tank will taste like crap afterwards. But it could be good with no issues. Rather frustrating way to do business for a company as large as Kanger.
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I am not sure what I want to do, as others have said if the insulator degrades the tank will taste like crap afterwards. But it could be good with no issues. Rather frustrating way to do business for a company as large as Kanger.
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I say run the clear one, that's what I'm doing and no problems so far. I do only have about 4 tanks through the rba but I check the insulator every once in a while and it still looks good.
Also I do run lower wattages on mine 15-20watts max if that makes any difference.
I'm with you Bammer555, I also have the clear one and have run about 13 to 15 tanks at anywhere from 15 to 20 watts but I have been all the way up to 40 watts chain vapping for about 30min or so trying out my rba build with no problems.The insulator still looks fine although I do have the VaporShark rDNA40 set to 450F...
Officially Kanger says could fail with harsh juice. Pluid.
Here's mine after a week of solid use trying to make it fail with Cinnamon etc. So I'm calling shenanigans.
I'll take you word for it. The one I got works perfect. PB thought the white ones tasted like "Monkey @$$" . I give up. If mine fails, I'll just order another one of the "Peek" versions.
That is the original Subtank deck, not the Mini - correct?
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The insulators on the KangerTech USA site for 50 cents are for the Subtank (original) not the Mini. Different shape than the Mini's deck.
Day 6 of my new mini... Still blowing clouds from the original 1.2 ohm OCC. This tank is the best thing since sliced bread.
Please do not put words in my mouth. I agreed with you originally that it could have been heat, and later said I do not know what could have caused it. I still do not know. All I know is it was not from user error or from the juice I used. Other than the clear insulators not holding up for some people, there are problems with some insulators having a gap between it and the positive post. The L portion of the insulators where they make contact with the positive post are very thin for an insulator. This could also have caused my issue, but I did not check my insulator before use other than to see if it was clear or white. I used my RBA as it came from the factory and I trusted my equipment would work correctly out of the box.
[edit] here is a picture of someone having the issue with the gap between the insulator and the post
I would appreciate if you would stop your consistent spreading of misinformation regarding this issue. I dont know what your agenda is, but it should be for the saftey of users and not for whatever personal gain you are achieving from this. Obviously the newest subtank minis are shipping with the tan insulators, so why have they upgraded the insulator material another time if no problems existed? It is because the clear ones have had serious quality control issues, and have caused problems for many users.
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Please do not put words in my mouth. I agreed with you originally that it could have been heat, and later said I do not know what could have caused it. I still do not know. All I know is it was not from user error or from the juice I used. Other than the clear insulators not holding up for some people, there are problems with some insulators having a gap between it and the positive post. The L portion of the insulators where they make contact with the positive post are very thin for an insulator. This could also have caused my issue, but I did not check my insulator before use other than to see if it was clear or white. I used my RBA as it came from the factory and I trusted my equipment would work correctly out of the box.
[edit] here is a picture of someone having the issue with the gap between the insulator and the post
I would appreciate if you would stop your consistent spreading of misinformation regarding this issue. I dont know what your agenda is, but it should be for the saftey of users and not for whatever personal gain you are achieving from this. Obviously the newest subtank minis are shipping with the tan insulators, so why have they upgraded the insulator material another time if no problems existed? It is because the clear ones have had serious quality control issues, and have caused problems for many users.
JC, I got my sub mini just 10 days ago at a local b&m. I watched the ups guy walk it with the package. I was the first to get one at that shop. My insulator is translucent white kinda like the one in your pic. Not clear and not really opaque white either. More of a raw teflon color.So far no signs of burning.Should I worry?
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Could you take a picture of it and post it so we can see? Hard to tell from description alone. Not all users with the clear insulators have seemed to have an issue (yet) but many have. To be on the safe side I would want the updated brown insulators. If its an opaque white, you definitely don't want that as that was the first edition and was the reason they made the clear ones and now the brown ones
I posted earlier in this thread that the offer to replace goes all the way back to Jan 7 with Smokie's public service announcement on service contacts from Kanger. This in turn points back to PBusardo's observations which may be valid. There's no epidemic of failure but specific complaints by some of failure (with pictures) here and elsewhere. And you know what? That's to be expected.
Kanger anxiously and probably nervously tries providing replacement insulators whether defective or not. Now I hear they may be insisting on documentation in the face of panic? See, that would not be good.
Speculation just makes it harder for those who have issues to get the service they require.
Just sayin'.
Good luck.
p.s. Thanks to those posting pic's when found. That may help expose whether it's an issue or incidental.
Kanger anxiously and probably nervously tries providing replacement insulators whether defective or not. Now I hear they may be insisting on documentation in the face of panic? See, that would not be good.
Speculation just makes it harder for those who have issues to get the service they require.
Just sayin'.
Good luck.
p.s. Thanks to those posting pic's when found. That may help expose whether it's an issue or incidental.
Insulator color is off a tiny bit in pic. White balance probs with Atrix HD phone.
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Looks like the newest brown peak ones to me, cant say for sure though. Could be the original white one and just discolored. How much have you used it already?
The brown ones on kanger's site look much darker brown than mine. Color hasn't changed since I got it.
Hmmm, could you take a higher resolution picture if possible? Also, is that a gap between your insulator and the positive post or is it just the camera angle?
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