Thanks so much that was a great post and no i don't drive over mountains, climb or walk for that matter up hills, or go on ski trips. i just drive 20miles to school and 20 miles back home 5 days a week and no mountains just a few small hills. but i normally lay my lavatube down horizontally in my truck seat and i just want to make sure that with the kayfun 3.1 that it won't leak when its all set up also can someone please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
post that PDF manual for the kayfun 3.1 on this thread
i would really like to read it. sad that i have to beg for something this is supposed to be a nice, caring, giving forum community 

