Keep Out Of Reach Of Children

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I'm looking at my package of BLU and yes there is a tiny warning that says keep out of reach of pets and children that I ignored like everyone else probably does. I'm talking about a larger, bolder warning. Also, on a side note, just came to me, since disposables usually lose battery power before they lose their juice, people should be very careful about how they dispose of spent e-cigs (disposable ones) since they are still FILLED with nicotine even after the battery dies.
 

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I really think there should be a BIG warning on disposables to make sure they don't fall into the hands of little children. You know how little children love to tamper with stuff and take stuff apart. If a child took an e-cig apart and ingested the filter he would probably die of nicotine overdose, don't you think?
How would a big warning on anything deter a child from doing anything of the sort? This is a common sense issue that should be understood inherently and also dealt with accordingly by the parent(s). Do you really need to be told not to leave your Blu disposable next to your toddler's binky?
 

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Oh be for real. When I was a kid I took one of those heavy duty metal shopping carts from the grocery story and dismantled it into little pieces and you're trying to tell me a child can't figure out how to unroll a disposable vape? And how is a friendly reminder TELLING you what to do? With all due respect, a warning designed to protect children isn't big brother dictating your behavior.

Wonders at what age u started using a wrench, vise grips, screwdriver and oh yeah a oxy/acetylene torch. Mine were schooled, old enough to read. Also never ran around the house with scissors etc.....

I stand by my statement to raise my own kids tyvm.
 

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So you're saying little children can READ the warnings on disposables, and thus know not to tamper with them? :lol:

If somebody is a parent, and they don't know to keep these things out of the hands of their children (nicotine containing substance) then I am sure I am using the word "parent" rather loosely.

Anyone with children, who is a capable and attentive PARENT, knows what is around their child at all times, and has a watchful eye-- and any and all dangerous objects and solutions are kept locked up, high up, and safely out of reach.

Every disposable i have bought has a warning and yes, if they don't I guess people need to know that nicotine is poison....but it's scares me to think anyone is so remiss as to not know this?

Quoted because of accuracy.

Frankly, I'm of the opinion that if you don't read the package, warning labels, product inserts or user manuals that come with the stuff you buy, then whatever happens is your own damned fault. That includes possibly making your children or pets very sick by being careless and ignoring warning labels.

It's the same thing with battery safety and the recent stories of e-cigs "exploding" when the user abused the unit or tried charging it in an unsafe manner or a manner specifically warned not to use.
 

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I can appreciate the sentiment, but the only reason labels are put on anything is strictly for liability issues and nothing more.

Tobacco companies would never have printed warning labels if it didn't become mandated. When you were a smoker did you ever read the warning label and think "I'm never going near these again" and just up and quit? Anyone who is, or was a smoker knows good and well that their ingesting poisons, toxins, carcinogens and a slew of hundreds of industrial chemicals used to increase the potency of cigarettes. Usually it's when you start to feel the wear and tear on your body that you finally decide to do something and quit, but I doubt warning labels have rarely done a whole lot to deter longterm PAD smokers from just up and quitting on the spot. So how is that warning label going to be more effective for a child than a fully grown adult who knows that label is right there in front of them while they continue to smoke?

It simply comes down to the manufacturer avoiding a lawsuit.

And although I don't like vaping being compared to gun ownership either, it still is a valid point. There are any number of life threatening products people keep in their homes, and it is specifically the owner's responsibility to keep those items out of harms way. If your child did ingest any number of household cleaners or prescription drugs and you filed a lawsuit, the manufacturer is protected by that label in court, NOT you or your children.

That being said, if it bothers you that much, than you should buy your liquids from manufacturers who do label them ... Totally Wicked, Johnson Creek, Mad Murdock are a few...
 

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I guarantee you my 3 year old can take one apart, so be careful thinking young kids couldn't get them apart. Even if they didn't get it apart anyone with kids knows that everything goes in the mouth and with enough saliva I would imagine that they could get a lethal dose out of one of those things.

Some people are ignorant about such things and I personally would think that a larger warning couldn't hurt. I'm a firm believer that the parents are ultimately responsible for their kids safety.
 

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While I am not one to suggest that children be in unsafe environments, since when have we become so paranoid? When I was young, there were the same dangers (for the most part) as today, but we have become truly afraid of our own shadow and so quick to pass off personal responsibility to someone else. There weren't childproof caps on everything and many of us survived to this very day. Honestly, there is a point where people have to protect their own children and stop blaming everyone else when something bad happens to them. Are they more fragile today? I wonder. This is really getting out of hand. OK, I've said my piece and will slink back under my rock to remember times that were more sane than these. Sorry for the rant.
 
Parents need to keep their kids safe from many dangers. Nothing has changed in my house since I started vaping. My children don't have access to toxic materials, and most importantly, they are supervised.

I will say that the vaping world needs to be extra vigilant about this. Obviously, those opposed to vaping, particularly those who wish to ban it, are looking for anything that will help their cause. If we start seeing a lot of child overdoses from vaping or vaping materials, don't think for one second that logic will win.

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My children are both old enough to understand and have been told that the liquid inside is POISON, that just getting it on their skin can hurt them. That being said I still keep it all put away so they aren't tempted. Kids are curious creatures and sometimes have to be saved from themselves. More of a warning couldn't hurt anything and would be a good thing. There are an overabundance of people that do not do their research. It scares me that anyone who might be mixing their own liquid would not know the dangers of getting straight nic on their skin.
Sorry OlDogNewTricks, but any time someone takes the view of "well that safety feature wasn't around when I was a kid and I survived just fine" really annoys me because no doubt there were plenty of children in your generation that aren't around today because of it.
 
That's fine, I guess I am just a safety nerd! In high school I was the one preaching about condoms and now I am the one warning other parents about letting their kids ride their bikes without helmets. When I was a kid I had a friend die because he wasn't wearing a helmet and he lost control of his bike and ended up getting hit by a van. The dr's say that he would have had a much better chance if he had been wearing one, instead he was in a coma for three days before he passed.
I am done with my rant now too. :)
 

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I think the entire premise of this thread is misguided.

Even if warnings are in the fine print at the very bottom of the back label, it is there, and it is still your responsibility to read it.

Making it bigger or moving it to a more prominent location doesn't change the liability of the manufacturer or the responsibility of the consumer.

There are big red STOP signs at almost every residential intersection in the country. People ignore those all of the time too. Whose fault is it when a crash occurs?

Just making it bigger or more prominent isn't going to change the likelihood of a dangerous episode. The only thing that can change the probability is an attentive and watchful parent.
 

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Disposables have a filter?

If you pop off the top where you suck out of it is filled with a filler I'm assuming cotton...at the base of it is the attomizer...and below that the battery.

Very similar to the cartridges you buy for an eblu or other rechargeable ecig. I'm not recommending an eblu but that was my next step after disposables. I quickly learned you can refill that filter/filler by adding more ejuice to make them more economical. Of course going with an ego was next step which is even more economical and less painful to keep recharging.
 

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I agree that the label is probably mostly a liability issue...but I do like that some ejuice companies are taking the initiative and putting a label on it that says keep away from kids and pets. I also like that some of them put them in child proof containers. Not all however that I have received have that label or use child proof containers.

I don't have any kids around the house and do find it annoying opening some of those child proof containers but I do see the reason behind them.

I do wonder if the labels however increase the curiosity of a child with the ability to read. I also wonder if any tests have been done to figure out at what age those child proof containers no longer work. I'm guessing an 8 year old could probably figure it out in 30 mins if asked to open one of those...just a guess.

Ever see those monkey/orangutang videos where they eventually get that ahh ha moment at whatever puzzle has been presented to them. After that it takes them no time at all to repeat.
 

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I agree that the label is probably mostly a liability issue...but I do like that some ejuice companies are taking the initiative and putting a label on it that says keep away from kids and pets. I also like that some of them put them in child proof containers. Not all however that I have received have that label or use child proof containers.

I don't have any kids around the house and do find it annoying opening some of those child proof containers but I do see the reason behind them.

I do wonder if the labels however increase the curiosity of a child with the ability to read. I also wonder if any tests have been done to figure out at what age those child proof containers no longer work. I'm guessing an 8 year old could probably figure it out in 30 mins if asked to open one of those...just a guess.

Ever see those monkey/orangutang videos where they eventually get that ahh ha moment at whatever puzzle has been presented to them. After that it takes them no time at all to repeat.

Minor nit: Those are actually referred to as child resistant caps, not child proof caps. My arthritic stepfather would hand a bottle of his blood pressure medicine to my then 4-year old daughter, who opened them in about 1/10th the time it would take his gnarled fingers to get it done.
 

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I wonder how many people are like me and basically ignore the labels and warnings on things...? :blink: I have noticed, however, that some of the bottles of eliquid I've bought at our local B&M are labelled "POISON: Keep Away from Children & Pets"; interestingly, not all are labeled that way. Maybe just the bigger ones....

Anyway, I don't have small children around (although lots of pets) and know that it's a challenge to keep either children or pets away from stuff all the time. My liquids are in a closet with the door shut and latched all the time. I keep my ecigs and filled clearos on my desk where my computer is, but if my grandson (9) or granddaughter (14) is here, I put all of that stuff in a closet, or hide it behind my PC. I really don't want them to be curious and try one when I'm not looking! I haven't used an ecig around either of them yet and don't think I feel very comfortable with the idea of doing it. It's not that hard to "sneak" a hit now and then, for me.
 

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If you pop off the top where you suck out of it is filled with a filler I'm assuming cotton...at the base of it is the attomizer...and below that the battery.

Very similar to the cartridges you buy for an eblu or other rechargeable ecig. I'm not recommending an eblu but that was my next step after disposables. I quickly learned you can refill that filter/filler by adding more ejuice to make them more economical. Of course going with an ego was next step which is even more economical and less painful to keep recharging.

Yeah, I finally got it. Just thought BT might be trying to pull something by putting a filter on them so they could claim they are safer or something. I put nothing past them.
 
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