Kgo...Trouble already

[Dottymay]

Hi Guys,
Well I got my Kgo…Trouble already.
I put my juice in the Smok Tech XL 510 Single Coil Cartomizer. Then put it on the Kgo. Smoke was coming out the bottom and top smelled and taste terrible (Burnt something).So I added more juice still burnt taste. I added more juice and let sit over night. This morning tried it and nothing no vape at all. Good news is I also, ordered an E Turbo Atomizer and it works great! I love it!!! So what did I do wrong with the 510 Single Coil Cartomizer?

Thanks,
Dotty

 

[the_vape_nerd]

Dotty it sounds like you didn't get enough juice on the first fill there. The wick really does need to be saturated. I'm not familiar with the Kgo that much but if its a 510 cartomizer I'm familiar with those.

In any event, have you tried using the condom method of filling? This is not some weird sexual come-on I promise. It's a real term we use here lol. Anyhow, if you use "cartomizer filling condom method" as a search term on you tube there are probably 20 or so videos done which can show you.

If you can't see those for some reason, I'll try to describe this below.

Fill one of the little plastic caps that came with the carto about a little more than half way. Now, take your cartomizer and plunge the battery side down into the plastic cap filled with the juice. Do this slowly and carefully. Ok now, let it sit there a minute. Then ease the condom "plastic cap" off the cartomizer. This will saturate the carto pretty well. Use a paper towel to wipe the carto dry. If you notice the top is still sorta dry, you can add a few drops.

I've used this method with all types of cartos and it always works well. Good luck.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

You can also try to syringe fill a cartomizer for the first time though I personally hate syringe filling and most do. Just remember that the first fill is really the most important. No juice in there is gonna equal a burnt carto every time.

Once it's burnt tasting, it's dead. Don't try to reuse it.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

This guy really knows his stuff. Have a look:

A PBusardo Tutorial : Filling Boge 510 Cartomizers - YouTube

 

[Dottymay]

Dotty it sounds like you didn't get enough juice on the first fill there. The wick really does need to be saturated. I'm not familiar with the Kgo that much but if its a 510 cartomizer I'm familiar with those.

In any event, have you tried using the condom method of filling? This is not some weird sexual come-on I promise. It's a real term we use here lol. Anyhow, if you use "cartomizer filling condom method" as a search term on you tube there are probably 20 or so videos done which can show you.

If you can't see those for some reason, I'll try to describe this below.

Fill one of the little plastic caps that came with the carto about a little more than half way. Now, take your cartomizer and plunge the battery side down into the plastic cap filled with the juice. Do this slowly and carefully. Ok now, let it sit there a minute. Then ease the condom "plastic cap" off the cartomizer. This will saturate the carto pretty well. Use a paper towel to wipe the carto dry. If you notice the top is still sorta dry, you can add a few drops.

I've used this method with all types of cartos and it always works well. Good luck.

LOL....Yes thats what I did condom method of filling and let it sit in it all night. This morning nothing so vape at all

 

[wseyller]

I agree not enough juice to saturate the filling completely. The first time you fill a cartomizer is the most crucial. Refilling later is not so much an issue. On the first fill if you do not fill it properly the filling will burn. Once it is burnt, it is done for. You will not get the burnt taste out no matter what you do. Just throw that one away and get a new one. At first I would try the condom method if I were you. This method is good to use for the first fill and it seems to fully saturate the cartomizer right away.

Edit: Saw that you used the condom method. Maybe you didn't add enough liquid to the condom. If you were able to add more liquid to the cartomizer later on tells me that it was not completely full.

 

[Blinx]

I did the same thing many times before I figured it out. Make sure you don't fire it up until it is completely saturated. I fill it then let it sit for 5 minuets then repeat about 4 times. Then let it sit another 10 minuets before i try to use it. As jbankston62871 said. Once you burn a carto on the first fill there is nothing you can do to get rid of the burnt taste. Just be patient when filling them.

 

[yzer]

You need just a hair under 2 ml or 50-60 drops of e-liquid to fill a dry Smoktech 510 XL carto. If you run a LR XL carto that is less than 1/2 filled you will burn the filler. Nothing can reverse this damage. The carto will always taste burned.

For beginners: just don't mess with condom filling a XL carto. For one thing, the silicon caps aren't going to hold 2 ml of juice. Drip fill the cartos or use a filling syringe.

To drip fill a dry Smoktech 510 XL carto:

a. Keep the carto off the PV. Remove carto caps and white plastic plug.

b. Drip 10 drops into the mouthpiece end of carto while holding the carto at a slight angle. Aim the drops so the juice lands between the outside edge of the filler and the inside of the carto tube. Rotate the carto 1/10 turn with each drop.

c. Stand the carto up, 510 base down on a piece of paper towel or Kleenex on your counter top. Let it sit for 30 seconds.

d. Repeat steps b and c.

e. Repeat steps b and c.

f. Repeat steps b and c.

g. Add 5 drops of juice, rotating carto 1/5 turn with each drop.

h. Repeat step c

i. Repeat step g.

j. Add three drops of juice, rotating carto 1/3 turn with each drop.

k. Repeat step c.

l. Repeat steps j and c until juice appears on the paper towel during step c.

m. Blot the bottom of the 510 connector dry with paper towel lor Kleenex. Hold carto up to light and look into coil hole in the middle of carto. If the hole is not clear, gently blow into mouthpiece end of carto until excess juice flows out onto a piece of Kleenex or paper towel. The XL carto is now completely filled.

You should never vape more than 1 ml of juice from a Smoktech XL carto before refilling. If you do you run the chance of overheating and burning the carto.

 

[Dottymay]

Thanks Jbankston!!!!!
I just watched the video….Guess what I did it wrong. I put the wrong end in the condom…What a dumb ... I am! Well I am a beginner and condoms aren’t my thing….lol

 

[wseyller]

Thanks Jbankston!!!!!
I just watched the video….Guess what I did it wrong. I put the wrong end in the condom…What a dumb ... I am! Well I am a beginner and condoms aren’t my thing….lol

Actually it can be done both way. Some people will argue which is best. I personally fill from the mouthpiece end. I keep pushing it down on the condom until I see juice starting to come out the battery end. Sometimes you gotta add more juice to the condom

 

[the_vape_nerd]

All due respect to yzer, that method takes up a lot of time. If you condom fill from the bottom aka battery end no, it's not going to take a full 2ml from the bottom, but you WILL get the area that needs to be saturated done. The rest can be handled by dropping into the top periodically or "topping off".

Being new it will take you a bit, but you'll get to a point where you can tell once its full by looking at it.

 

[Uncle Willie]

My failsafe method ..

1) Insert round toothpick in threaded end of carto
2) Stick the toothpick in a block or styrofoam or anything that will hold it at a slight angle
3) Slowly drip your liquid into the open end of the carto .. it will take quite a few drops initially and will absorb fairly quickly especially if using a thin liquid .. once it starts to absorb less and less, let some liquid pool up at the top
4) Allow to sit for a couple hours / even over night
5) If the pooled liquid is still there, remove toothpick, blow excess out using the open end / thru the threaded end
6) If pooled liquid is gone, add more drops

Yes, it's more time consuming, yes it takes a little preplanning .. but you will have insured that the carto is fully saturated before use, which is critical in flavor production as well as carto longevity ..

 

[kookycole]

Just introducing this as a possibility, because I recently had this issue with a smok tech. I filled it completely, waited about an hour for it to soak in and immediately got a burnt taste, followed by it refusing to perform at all. Then, my battery turned itself off when I tried the carto again. Apparently there was some kind of short in the cartomizer. Don't know if this was the issue with yours, but your story sounds similar.

 

[xbassman]

I am surprised nobody here uses the Taryn spin method for filling cartos...
I hate the mess involved with the condom method.

I fill a Smoktech XL with around 50 drops (remember different droppers create different size drops).
I leave the condom on the battery side and add about 15 drops, then give it a few spins.
Repeat until you see a drop that has snuck into the condom.
Then I pull the condom from the battery end, wipe it off and blow from that end toward the mouthpiece end. redepositing that e-juice in the filler on top.

I usually let it sit in a shot glass for a bit, but can vape it right away.
After a bit of practice I barely waste more than a drop or 2.

 

[sailorman]

The condom method works with an XL, but you aren't going to fill it with one condom's worth of juice. I'm one of the oddballs that prefers to fill from the mouthpiece end. I flip it over when the carto is full inserted into the condom and let it gravity feed toward the battery end. The Taryn spin works good to speed things up at this point. Then repeat the process until you see a bubble of juice emerging through the hole at the battery end. It's never necessary to let it sit for more than a few minutes. I used to use 100%VG with this method and never had a problem of an insufficiently filled carto. For a reg. sized carto, two condoms 3/4 full were enough. for an XL, measure it by drops, typically about 50-55 is enough. Split it between two condoms and note how full they need to be. Then you won't have to count drops again or mess with syringes.

 

[wseyller]

I personally dont even use the condom method anymore because it a lttle messy.

IMO syringes are the way to go. Fastest and easiest. My syringes stay at home. I have enough cartos and tanks filled to last days.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2

 

[sailorman]

Problem with the syringe method is unless your juice is really thin, any needle that doesn't take all day to suck up and eject the juice it ends up disturbing the polyfill. And there is no way the syringe method is faster unless you're using at least 80%PG. Even then, I can fill 3 cartos with the condom method in the time it takes to fill one with a syringe.

Line up 3 condoms, fill them 1/2-3/4 of the way up, stick the cartos in and flip them over. Repeat. That takes about as long as filling up a syringe and getting a carto halfway filled.

 

[wseyller]

Problem with the syringe method is unless your juice is really thin, any needle that doesn't take all day to suck up and eject the juice it ends up disturbing the polyfill. And there is no way the syringe method is faster unless you're using at least 80%PG. Even then, I can fill 3 cartos with the condom method in the time it takes to fill one with a syringe.

Line up 3 condoms, fill them 1/2-3/4 of the way up, stick the cartos in and flip them over. Repeat. That takes about as long as filling up a syringe and getting a carto halfway filled.

I fill a syringe will 10ml of juice which last for many carto refills. Its not as if I have to get my bottle of juice out everytime. Pull drip tip off, needle in carto, press on plunger and presto. No worry to dealing with putting condoms on and off, cleaning the condoms or having to wipe the carto off with a paper towel.

I use 18 gauge hypodermic needle with beveled point which which causes minimal to no disturbance to the filler. Yes the blunt tips are hell to get in between the carto and filler.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2

 

[sailorman]

I guess that'll work if 1) you dont mind keeping juice in 10ml syringes or you are filling a bunch of cartos at once and 2) your juice is thin enough to go through an 18ga. needle without taking 15 minutes and 3) you don't need to insert pull out and reinsert your needle in various spots around the circumference of the carto. None of those apply to me. And putting a condom on is easy, hardly an ordeal. Sucking 10ml of 70-80%VG through an 18ga. needle is more an ordeal than rinsing out a condom.

 

[wseyller]

I guess that'll work if 1) you dont mind keeping juice in 10ml syringes or you are filling a bunch of cartos at once and 2) your juice is thin enough to go through an 18ga. needle without taking 15 minutes and 3) you don't need to insert pull out and reinsert your needle in various spots around the circumference of the carto. None of those apply to me. And putting a condom on is easy, hardly an ordeal. Sucking 10ml of 70-80%VG through an 18ga. needle is more an ordeal than rinsing out a condom.

Sucking high vg through the needle is very hard but dispensing it out is not bad. When I diy my juice I will fill pure vg syringes from the plunger end.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2