Kid arrested for ecig possession

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stevegmu

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Doing something that has the risk of getting arrested, and not getting caught, is pretty cool...

Check out all the speeders on all US roads everywhere as good example

Not in the real world, unless kids today are more messed up than I thought. They just wAnt to be cool, blow clouds and get a buzz...
Those who get arrested for speeding are also charged with evasion and failure to stop and wreck less driving, not just speeding...
 

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Not in the real world, unless kids today are more messed up than I thought. They just wAnt to be cool, blow clouds and get a buzz...
Those who get arrested for speeding are also charged with evasion and failure to stop and wreck less driving, not just speeding...

Yes, in the real world.

Those who don't get arrested are cool, and those who get arrested for something that isn't harming another animal or person are very cool. If all it took was idea of you could get arrested, and this would be uncool / undesirable, I believe all or most laws would not be broken. I've never been arrested, or even warned about speeding, but know enough that almost everyone does it, and those who have been arrested are likely still speeding. Some argue that by not speeding in certain situations, you are putting others at risk, ya know flow of traffic (aka go with the flow) type thing.
 

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Yes, in the real world.

Those who don't get arrested are cool, and those who get arrested for something that isn't harming another animal or person are very cool. If all it took was idea of you could get arrested, and this would be uncool / undesirable, I believe all or most laws would not be broken. I've never been arrested, or even warned about speeding, but know enough that almost everyone does it, and those who have been arrested are likely still speeding. Some argue that by not speeding in certain situations, you are putting others at risk, ya know flow of traffic (aka go with the flow) type thing.

I don't live in that society, nor can comprehend that mentality...
 

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In most states the possession of an e-cig by a minor is not illegal, only the sale. I also don't think it's an offense that you can be arrested for, though I could be wrong on that. Would seem like more of a citation to me.

sofarsogood started a thread recently about Grandview Heights, Ohio's new under 21 law, in which it's a misdemeanor:

http://halfwheel.com/grandview-heig...acco-purchase-and-consumption-age-to-21/96242

The changes, which also include electronic cigarettes and liquid nicotine, make it a misdemeanor for a person under 21 years of age to be in possession of them, a penalty which carries up to a $100 fine and 20 hours of community service.

I think you're right, though, that it isn't a misdemeanor by any law of any State.
 

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No one speeds where you live? Or no minors use anything they are forbidden by law from using/purchasing?

Does the cult leader forbid such things in your commune?

I do know know anyone who thinks its cool to get arrested, but I live in suburbia, where speeders get warnings or tickets...
 

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I think you're right, though, that it isn't a misdemeanor by any law of any State.
There is a previous post in this thread where a lady says her kid and his friends must appear in court over an ecig. If it is a civil infraction there is always the option to pay the fine and be done with it. Wouldn't a court appearance be mandatory for a misdemeanor and above? Would that be the arrainment? There will be negotiations with the prosecutor, he will ask the judge to be lenient because the kids have agreed to disclose the names of all the other vapor kid criminals. The only safe thing for the kids to do is go back to smoking so the police will leave them alone.

In the mean time we vapers should be ashamed of ourselves for the harm we are doing to the youth of the nation. We should do the right thing and go back to smoking to protect the children from the police who are only trying to protect their pensions.
 

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There is a previous post in this thread where a lady says her kid and his friends must appear in court over an ecig. If it is a civil infraction there is always the option to pay the fine and be done with it. Wouldn't a court appearance be mandatory for a misdemeanor and above? Would that be the arrainment? There will be negotiations with the prosecutor, he will ask the judge to be lenient because the kids have agreed to disclose then names of all the other vapor kid criminals. The only safe thing for the kids to do is go back to smoking so the police will leave them alone.

It is a fine and community service...
 

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It is a fine and community service...
And a criminal record. The kids won't be the same. It won't make them better people. If any of those kids were smokers you can be sure that's what they'll go back to. The message is loud and clear.

In the mean time I'd like to confirm the relevent state statutes. I believe one reason police will give for not enforcing the tobacco posession laws is because they consider them too harsh. That's true considering smokers pay a lot in taxes and if you work in government you don't want to be hard on taxpayers even if they are kids harming themselves. If ecigs were taxed like cigarettes the police would leave the kids alone just as they have always done with cigarettes.
 

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And a criminal record. The kids won't be the same. It won't make them better people. If any of those kids were smokers you can be sure that's what they'll go back to. The message is loud and clear.

In the mean time I'd like to confirm the relevent state statutes. I believe one reason police will give for not enforcing the tobacco posession laws is because they consider them too harsh. That's true considering smokers pay a lot in taxes and if you work in government you don't want to be hard on taxpayers even if they are kids harming themselves. If ecigs were taxed like cigarettes the police would leave them alone just as they now do with cigarettes.

No it isn't. He's a minor...
 

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No it isn't. He's a minor...
Pont taken. I was a boy scout and don't know how any of that works.

In the mean time I've yet to find a report of a kid getting into similar trouble for smoking. Some police I've talked to say they never cited a kid for smoking in their careers. When is that going to change?
 
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