Kit to build coils and for making e-juice?
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You don't really need a kit per say. All you need is a your preference gauge of wire, either a screwdriver or a drill bit or something like that, and some 99 cent tweezers.
I got a cheap screwdriver set at dollar tree but I haven't seen it since. You can get tweezers at Wal Mart or the supermarket for 99 cents. Oh yeah, and some nail clippers for 99 cents at Wal Mart or the supermarket too. I use 28 gauge personally, and get it from Lightning Vapes. They sell on ebay and Amazon. I believe Amazon is a few cents cheaper ($4.15 for 100 ft).
I use a lighter to heat up the wire a little bit, but if you want to get fancy you can get a butane torch. Also if you want to be fancy you can get some ceramic tweezers for about $10. They sell a small screwdriver set on Amazon for like $4.
For wicking it's your preference. You can get a lifetime supply of rayon at Sallys for like $12, or you can get japanese cotton pads on Amazon for like $6 a pack (Puffs).
Making juice I have no idea. You need pure VG and/or PG, and flavorings from your vendor of preference.
I got a cheap screwdriver set at dollar tree but I haven't seen it since. You can get tweezers at Wal Mart or the supermarket for 99 cents. Oh yeah, and some nail clippers for 99 cents at Wal Mart or the supermarket too. I use 28 gauge personally, and get it from Lightning Vapes. They sell on ebay and Amazon. I believe Amazon is a few cents cheaper ($4.15 for 100 ft).
I use a lighter to heat up the wire a little bit, but if you want to get fancy you can get a butane torch. Also if you want to be fancy you can get some ceramic tweezers for about $10. They sell a small screwdriver set on Amazon for like $4.
For wicking it's your preference. You can get a lifetime supply of rayon at Sallys for like $12, or you can get japanese cotton pads on Amazon for like $6 a pack (Puffs).
Making juice I have no idea. You need pure VG and/or PG, and flavorings from your vendor of preference.
i bought this kit for building and i love it. http://www.coil-master.net/product/diy-kit
Kits are generally overpriced, low quality, and include extra "filler" items that serve no real purpose except to jack up the price. You're probably better off deciding what you need, purchase good high-quality items individually, and assembling the "kit" yourself.
For juice-making, you will need:
PG and/or VG
Nicotine (optional, but probably)
Flavor concentrates (optional, unflavored can be pretty good too)
Measuring equipment - either:
- graduated syringes and blunt-tipped fill needles, or
- a .01g digital scale and disposable pipettes
Mixing vessels (little cups/beakers/etc. - optional, or you can just make your mix right in the bottles)
Dropper bottles (optional, or you can just wash and re-use the bottles from liquids you already have)
For rebuilding:
A digital multi-meter or 510 ohm-reader (NOT optional unless you use a regulated mod with ohm-reader built in)
Your preferred gauge of Kanthal or Nichrome wire (suggest 28 and/or 30-gauge to start with)
Something small and round to wrap the coils with (small screwdriver, drill bit, toothpick, etc., or dedicated coil jig/gizmo/winding tool)
Tiny flat and Phillips-head screwdrivers
Precision screwdriver set (optional - can potentially replace tiny screwdrivers AND coil-wrapping tool)
Wicking material (organic cotton balls, Japanese cotton, cotton yarn, rayon, silica rope, or stainless steel mesh)
Scissors (to cut wicks - maybe optional, depending on what kind of wicking material you decide on)
Nail clippers, snips, or diagonal cutters (maybe optional, if your scissors are tough enough to cut the wire)
Tweezers (optional - for replacing/adjusting wicks, or help pulling out old coils)
Ceramic tweezers (optional - for adjusting/compressing coils while firing)
Regular/needle-nose pliers (optional)
Magnet (optional - for gathering up little bits of Kanthal so they don't end up in the carpet and eventually in your bare feet)
Variable-speed cordless drill (very optional, only for twisted/advanced wire configurations)
...those are pretty much all of the basics, and some of the extras you may or may not require. Get you some of those, and maybe a little plastic case from the crafting or hardware aisles to keep them in, and save yourself the headache of a pre-assembled kit.
For juice-making, you will need:
PG and/or VG
Nicotine (optional, but probably)
Flavor concentrates (optional, unflavored can be pretty good too)
Measuring equipment - either:
- graduated syringes and blunt-tipped fill needles, or
- a .01g digital scale and disposable pipettes
Mixing vessels (little cups/beakers/etc. - optional, or you can just make your mix right in the bottles)
Dropper bottles (optional, or you can just wash and re-use the bottles from liquids you already have)
For rebuilding:
A digital multi-meter or 510 ohm-reader (NOT optional unless you use a regulated mod with ohm-reader built in)
Your preferred gauge of Kanthal or Nichrome wire (suggest 28 and/or 30-gauge to start with)
Something small and round to wrap the coils with (small screwdriver, drill bit, toothpick, etc., or dedicated coil jig/gizmo/winding tool)
Tiny flat and Phillips-head screwdrivers
Precision screwdriver set (optional - can potentially replace tiny screwdrivers AND coil-wrapping tool)
Wicking material (organic cotton balls, Japanese cotton, cotton yarn, rayon, silica rope, or stainless steel mesh)
Scissors (to cut wicks - maybe optional, depending on what kind of wicking material you decide on)
Nail clippers, snips, or diagonal cutters (maybe optional, if your scissors are tough enough to cut the wire)
Tweezers (optional - for replacing/adjusting wicks, or help pulling out old coils)
Ceramic tweezers (optional - for adjusting/compressing coils while firing)
Regular/needle-nose pliers (optional)
Magnet (optional - for gathering up little bits of Kanthal so they don't end up in the carpet and eventually in your bare feet)
Variable-speed cordless drill (very optional, only for twisted/advanced wire configurations)
...those are pretty much all of the basics, and some of the extras you may or may not require. Get you some of those, and maybe a little plastic case from the crafting or hardware aisles to keep them in, and save yourself the headache of a pre-assembled kit.
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i dont really build my own coils however i have dabbled in making my own juice. what i use is:
- some 15ml bottles
- pure VG and PG. get a larger size of one if you are planning on doing something like 70/30
- for 15ml bottles i would recommend 3ml and 1ml syringes
- blunt tip 14ga needles
- an assortment of flavor bases
- probably some flavor additives
- nic if you use it
15ml bottles are a good size to start off with and experiment with. i usually only make 13ml of juice in them so they are easier to shake up. i also dont use scales or graduated cylinders or anything like that. making small amounts its just easier and more accurate to use syringes. if you find flavors you like and want to make bigger batches you can get larger syringes. unless you are making 100ml+ at a time i find syringes much easier.
there are two types of flavoring. there are what i call flavor bases and flavor additives. the bases give you your signature flavors. the bases heighten it. an example of flavor bases would be banana, strawberry, tobacco, etc. flavor additives would be things like mint (for that menthol flavor), sweetener, stuff to make it sour, etc. depend on what you are looking to make they might be necessary. for example i make a raspberry blackberry juice. the ratio of raspberry to blackberry is 2:1 with an additional 1 part sweetener. total flavor in the juice is about 25%. without the sweetener you just dont have a full flavor in my opinion.
it takes a LOT of time and some money initially to get going. you need to experiment with different combinations and you also need to build up a flavor library. generally i will make 5ml of a new juice at one time (which is really easy using the small syringes) and see how it turns out. if i like it and no modifications or only small modifications are necessary i make a 13ml batch to see how it scales. for the most part i only make 13ml bottles but of a couple of my favorites i do make 30ml. usually i will make several at one time and leave them to mature in a cool dark place.
the most important thing to remember is to record EVERYTHING. your % of VG, PG, nic, total flavor, individual flavors. from that you can choose how much you want to make and go from there to get consistent results. in the beginning making your own juice will cost more than buying a mid range one at a shop. however, as you decide on your recepies it will end up being much cheaper.
oh and make sure you do research about what flavors you choose. there are some flavors from certain companies in particular which contain diacetyl. there are also a lot of recipes online you can try to make. and ejuice calculators make everything so easy.
- some 15ml bottles
- pure VG and PG. get a larger size of one if you are planning on doing something like 70/30
- for 15ml bottles i would recommend 3ml and 1ml syringes
- blunt tip 14ga needles
- an assortment of flavor bases
- probably some flavor additives
- nic if you use it
15ml bottles are a good size to start off with and experiment with. i usually only make 13ml of juice in them so they are easier to shake up. i also dont use scales or graduated cylinders or anything like that. making small amounts its just easier and more accurate to use syringes. if you find flavors you like and want to make bigger batches you can get larger syringes. unless you are making 100ml+ at a time i find syringes much easier.
there are two types of flavoring. there are what i call flavor bases and flavor additives. the bases give you your signature flavors. the bases heighten it. an example of flavor bases would be banana, strawberry, tobacco, etc. flavor additives would be things like mint (for that menthol flavor), sweetener, stuff to make it sour, etc. depend on what you are looking to make they might be necessary. for example i make a raspberry blackberry juice. the ratio of raspberry to blackberry is 2:1 with an additional 1 part sweetener. total flavor in the juice is about 25%. without the sweetener you just dont have a full flavor in my opinion.
it takes a LOT of time and some money initially to get going. you need to experiment with different combinations and you also need to build up a flavor library. generally i will make 5ml of a new juice at one time (which is really easy using the small syringes) and see how it turns out. if i like it and no modifications or only small modifications are necessary i make a 13ml batch to see how it scales. for the most part i only make 13ml bottles but of a couple of my favorites i do make 30ml. usually i will make several at one time and leave them to mature in a cool dark place.
the most important thing to remember is to record EVERYTHING. your % of VG, PG, nic, total flavor, individual flavors. from that you can choose how much you want to make and go from there to get consistent results. in the beginning making your own juice will cost more than buying a mid range one at a shop. however, as you decide on your recepies it will end up being much cheaper.
oh and make sure you do research about what flavors you choose. there are some flavors from certain companies in particular which contain diacetyl. there are also a lot of recipes online you can try to make. and ejuice calculators make everything so easy.
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