Kr8 carto to dripper! Leakage? Drip tip?

[Automaton]

Hey folks. I've been reading about how to convert a Kr8 carto into a dripper (pretty striaght-forward really - remove filling, drip!).

But I'm concerned it would leak. I kinda want to try this, but I want it to be viable while going out, if I have it my pocket or something.

Would a drip tip help with this? It would certainly make it easier to fill, but would one of those contoured ones make it less likely to leak? I've read the 510/901 drip tips will fit in the Kr8.

Thoughts?

 

[revolver]

Ok... You are talking about a mod which was mentioned and became 'popular' in a thread by Dogsbody; 'Carto-Vertical Atty mod' (or similar name...) It works pretty well, I use it myself a lot! But first you should give it many tries at home... It could leak or get messy. And for the most part it is to be used carefully...! I wouldnt go street-wise on that!
However, after some experimentation you will be able to make it an effective mod for any purpose. What I do is: include a mini piece of filler back into the atty as to absorb the extra drops and this way avoid any leaking problems when in pocket! Run some tests (its kinda fun....NOT really!) and be carefull, dont think you've got it all figured out just because it didnt fail for five minutes... It shall get nasty and messy (trust me; been there!) but eventually you will become a Master Carto Dripper; you'll see! Just be patient!

 

[Automaton]

Doesn't it have problems wicking with just a bit of filler in the bottom? Man, I really need to get a flashlight and take one of these apart... I took one apart already, but I threw it out. Doh!

 

[revolver]

Ok with a 808 carto (The only one I've tried this with...) you can drip without anything added once you have removed the filler... and take it in your pocket, as long as you have vaped the whole of the liquid you have dripped into it.
Today I have been doing it like this: I would drip 2-6 drops and vape, then put it away. Every now and then I checked and everything was ok; no leakage. But you dont wanna leave it with liquid in. At least no more than 2 drops (in which case you can still get an ocassional mini-leaking. Two drops is cool coz it lasts a 'tenish' vape.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Yes the drip tip would definitely make it easier, and no it shouldn't leak as long as you only do a 3-4 drops ..


see the thing is when you carefully take out the filler you will still have a little "sock" left inside... now granted you might get a tiny bit of leakage... for the most part you will not.. the drip tip will "guide" your drips to the right spot.

Now this is coming from a vaporer that has been tinkering with e-cig devices for some time.. soo you may have to do a little trial and error ..before you get it down pat.

here is the link to the original thread with video.. for quick referencing
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-nf-carto-mod-kr8-atty-510-vertical-atty.html

 

[revolver]

But we should always vape the 3-4 drops fully before keeping it in our pockets, right?

And YES; the drip tip DOES help your way into the right spot!

 

[revolver]

And you should always flick your PV before dripping making sure there is no mist trapped in... especially when using a drip tip; otherwise you could get the liquid on top of it!

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Well I am not sure about fully per se, but I am sure you will naturally vape enough to prevent any worries of leakage... not too many people will drip and not vape at all right afterwards (I don't think they would at least)

I usually do the 3-4 drips for one vape session... of course ymmv

 

[revolver]

Yes, of course; my bad...
Sorry I was so redundant and stupid...
I feel ashamed because I am a newbie who tried to sound smart and ended up looking as a fool...in front of a girl...? Ha!
BTW, it is a pleasure Sir. (kind of exciting meeting 'face to face' with an expert...!)

 

[revolver]

Been folowing you forum for a while now but I was too lazy to post and have just registered yesterday. Your posts together with some other experts' ones have been most useful to me!
I should not be posting this here, right?
Sorry again for my newbieness!!

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Yes, of course; my bad...
Sorry I was so redundant and stupid...
I feel ashamed because I am a newbie who tried to sound smart and ended up looking as a fool...in front of a girl...? Ha!
BTW, it is a pleasure Sir. (kind of exciting meeting 'face to face' with an expert...!)

Don't be too hard on yourself ... you put out good information.. and redundancy never hurts... who knows how the OP or readers compute information.. we all could say the same thing in different ways, but some may grasp one post over the other.. ...

BTW, the pleasure is all mine.... and there is a fine line between newbie and expert.... in this community it's all about learning from each other.

 

[Automaton]

lightgeoduck - Sweet, thanks! I'm gunna have to try this.

You guys are weird.

 

[unit40]

This has got to be the greatest discovery since I started vaping !!! Why did it take me so long to find this out? Not reading up on ECF enough I guess !! The KR808D-1 cartos have awesome flavor, they are cheap, and I love dripping. I just ripped the stuffing out and have been vaping a "socked" carto at 3.7V and 5V. I think I'm in heaven. This set-up has got to be more reliable than all of the 901 atties that blow, the 510's that die out unexpectedly, the toasted carto fiasco I had to bear with while learning to vape. AWESOME !

 

[Automaton]

This has got to be the greatest discovery since I started vaping !!! Why did it take me so long to find this out? Not reading up on ECF enough I guess !! The KR808D-1 cartos have awesome flavor, they are cheap, and I love dripping. I just ripped the stuffing out and have been vaping a "socked" carto at 3.7V and 5V. I think I'm in heaven. This set-up has got to be more reliable than all of the 901 atties that blow, the 510's that die out unexpectedly, the toasted carto fiasco I had to bear with while learning to vape. AWESOME !

Yeah, despite cartos being "one-time-use disposable," I wonder if the simplicity of the atty actually makes it more reliable than regular attys. Just me thinking aloud, but there's so little to them. It's a really simple system, and as long as you're gentle on the coil, it seems like they should go for ages.

 

[bones25]

Ok...so you guys that take the filler out.....is the sock the little cylindrical woven thingy or the blanket over it? Do you drip down the side or dire/ctly in the center on the wire/woven thingy/blanket. What if the blanket is all burned, do you take it out too?

I guess I need more specifics.....I have watched DB's video and he is not that specific or maybe had a different type carto?

Thanks for your comments!

 

[Free2BMe]

I tried this the other night before coming across this thread and didn't have much success (after watching it done on a video). I couldn't get any vape at all. I'm anxious to see what else is said here as well.

 

[Automaton]

I tried this the other night before coming across this thread and didn't have much success (after watching it done on a video). I couldn't get any vape at all. I'm anxious to see what else is said here as well.

Hey there.

Well, by this point, I've tried this with a few cartos. My results were very inconsistent.

Some vaped great. Some didn't vape at all. And most of them leaked quite a bit.

My solution? If I want to drip, I just use a 901 atty on my Kr8 batt.

The fact of the matter is that while it's possible to gut a carto and drip with it, it's just not as consistent as an atty that was built to be an atty. The heating element in the Kr8 cartos, while you can certainly call it an atomizer, was just not built for this purpose.

Some people have really good luck with this. I didn't. Rather than destroying more cartos for coin-toss results, I just got an atty. Works much better. And if you factor in the number of cartos I had to destroy in order to find one that worked well for dripping, it's probably the same price, too.

 

[Free2BMe]

Hey there.

Well, by this point, I've tried this with a few cartos. My results were very inconsistent.

Some vaped great. Some didn't vape at all. And most of them leaked quite a bit.

My solution? If I want to drip, I just use a 901 atty on my Kr8 batt.

The fact of the matter is that while it's possible to gut a carto and drip with it, it's just not as consistent as an atty that was built to be an atty. The heating element in the Kr8 cartos, while you can certainly call it an atomizer, was just not built for this purpose.

Some people have really good luck with this. I didn't. Rather than destroying more cartos for coin-toss results, I just got an atty. Works much better. And if you factor in the number of cartos I had to destroy in order to find one that worked well for dripping, it's probably the same price, too.

Thanks for this valuable info! So IYO, does dripping give better TH/flavor than cartos?

 

[Automaton]

Thanks for this valuable info! So IYO, does dripping give better TH/flavor than cartos?

For me... no.

I use my 901 atty for basically 2 purposes:

1. Flavor testing.

2. Hot afternoons, with light flavors

And the reason for that, is that even on a 3.7v batt, the vapor from an atty feels cooler to me, compared to a carto. And for the same reason, it also seems to lack the strong throat hit I get from cartos. So, it's refreshing on a 90-degree afternoon. But other than that... it just doesn't give me the same satisfaction.

The flavor... is different.

A carto has a warm, rich taste to it. Strong, complex flavors really shine, but subtle flavors can get a bit lost.

My 901 atty has a "clean" taste to it. It's less smoke-like. Not as warm or rich. But subtle, or fruity flavors taste more authentically like they're supposed to.

Basically, the 901 doesn't feel like smoking to me. It's enjoyable... but it's not like smoking.

I had similar feelings when I tried a 510.

Though I will say that these 2 atties have more vapor production than Kr8 cartos. But I value throat hit and warmth over vapor production, and atties just don't compare for me. So, in my case...

I still use cartos 80% of the time. I just like them better.

 

[Free2BMe]

Masses of vapor has never been a big thing for me either; in fact, I think less vapor actually benefits me quite a bit when I am vaping at work or out somewhere. I have a couple atties on order so am anxious to see if my results might be similar to yours. Time will tell...... I also have a couple flavors that don't seem to come out too well using the cartos so am hoping they will be better with the atty.