kr808 cartomizer compatible "big battery" starter kit for ~$50.00 U.S.

[Jewel Ship]

I've got a kr808 with lots of cartomizers, and would like a "big battery" [600 mah+] starter kit that can use them, in the price range of roughly $50.00 U.S. for a kit containing everything I need. Bonus if it contains other adapters, two piece cartridge & atomizer, etc.

I found Eastmall's Riva 901, and have a thread for questions related to that particular device, but here I'd like to discuss other devices; either 'universal' [comes with a whole bunch of adapters] or 'it can be made to work with kr808 cartomizers by purchasing the adapter for it'.

One such example is the Joye eGo Mega sold by Healthcabin. The kit itself is $55.00, and the adapter needed to make it work with kr808 cartomizers/901 cartridge & atomizers is $2.00. [PSST...that is the correct adapter, right? I don't know that much about these things].

This combo has everything I want, and is only a tad higher than fifty bucks before shipping. As a bonus, this allows me to use eGo and 510 cartridges, atomizers, and cartomizers, should I ever want to. Lastly, it's an eGo, which seems to be a highly rated e-cig here by many.

What other "big battery" starter kits will let me use my kr808 cartomizers and are in this price range?

 

[markfm]

A single battery 900mAh kit might be the Greenworld G400. It's a fat battery 808, length is in between the standard and XL, a bit thicker, nice gripping matte black rubberized coating on the battery. It comes with two big cartos, but works absolutely fine with standard 808 cartos.

About $60 from NHaler, for 1 battery/charger/2 cartos, use saveinnj for 10% off. I've been extremely happy with mine, did pick up a second battery -- I rotate them, 1/day. You'll get true 3.7V (rather than 3.2 that's common with a lot of non-808 sets), really good battery life.

(I could be wrong, but believe the 5xx family, including eGo, tends to actually run around 3.2V. You'll get 1/3 more power (= heat production, better vapor) on an 808.)

 

[otrpu]

That, or I'd just order a RIVa 910 from EastMall

www.EastMall.net Eastmall International Co.,Ltd

Should bolt right up to your cartos

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[Jewel Ship]

A single battery 900mAh kit might be the Greenworld G400. It's a fat battery 808, length is in between the standard and XL, a bit thicker, nice gripping matte black rubberized coating on the battery. It comes with two big cartos, but works absolutely fine with standard 808 cartos.

About $60 from NHaler, for 1 battery/charger/2 cartos, use saveinnj for 10% off. I've been extremely happy with mine, did pick up a second battery -- I rotate them, 1/day. You'll get true 3.7V (rather than 3.2 that's common with a lot of non-808 sets), really good battery life.

(I could be wrong, but believe the 5xx family, including eGo, tends to actually run around 3.2V. You'll get 1/3 more power (= heat production, better vapor) on an 808.)

That seems a tad expensive for me. I think the main issue is that kit [at that price] only includes one battery, whereas most other similarly priced kits include two batteries. I'll keep it in mind, though; 900mah would probably let me vape for a day and a half, so I might not need a second battery, lol.

I looked around, and Liberty Flights lists operating voltage for both the Riva 901 and the eGo as "3.3 - 4.2v", but I'm not sure why they are listing a range of voltages instead of one single number; it may vary by cartomizer/atomizer resistance, but I'm not sure on that.

 

[Jewel Ship]

That, or I'd just order a RIVa 910 from EastMall

www.EastMall.net Eastmall International Co.,Ltd

Should bolt right up to your cartos

Cheers,
otrpu

Thanks, Otrpu. I'm actually leaning real heavy on buying a Riva 901 at the moment [so much so that I have a thread asking for more information on it], but I was curious what my other options were. Are there any other big battery kits that take kr808 cartomizers for around fifty bucks [or less]? I'm looking at buying one around christmas time, and want to educate myself on all available options beforehand.

 

[Buzzy]

The Elegant Easy from CigEasy is a big battery, KR808D-1 compatible.

 

[Jewel Ship]

The Elegant Easy from CigEasy is a big battery, KR808D-1 compatible.

Thanks, Buzzy. Their $50.00 kit comes with only one battery, and I can't find on their website what mAh the battery is. Do you know if it's 600, 750, 900 mAh?

Okay. So far, my choices seem to be:
Riva 901
Joye eGo [adapter required]
Greenworld G400 [one battery only]
Elegant Easy [one battery only, mAh unknown]

I'm still looking at my options, but I'm leaning towards the Riva 901.

 

[Turbo]

Thanks, Buzzy. Their $50.00 kit comes with only one battery, and I can't find on their website what mAh the battery is. Do you know if it's 600, 750, 900 mAh?

Okay. So far, my choices seem to be:
Riva 901
Joye eGo [adapter required]
Greenworld G400 [one battery only]
Elegant Easy [one battery only, mAh unknown]

I'm still looking at my options, but I'm leaning towards the Riva 901.

Well, there's the RS Vgo but it's not in the US yet. Kanger has one too but not in the US yet. Vapor Nine has a kit like the Elegant Easy w/ an 808 connection called the Defender (750mAh).


To add to the above w/ a native 510 connection/adapter to 808/901 would be the JSB Vgo (900mAh), Hello16 (1300mAh). Speaking of the 901 Riva, Liberty Flights was/is having a killer deal on them.

 

[iBANKAI]

For around 50 buck.. Your best bet would be to go with Liberty-Flights. The RIBA 510 or 901 is a great device. If you for the 510 you can get a 510 to 901/808d1 adapter. Cuz I'm a big fan of 510'attys and cartos.

 

[Jewel Ship]

Well, there's the RS Vgo but it's not in the US yet. Kanger has one too but not in the US yet. Vapor Nine has a kit like the Elegant Easy w/ an 808 connection called the Defender (750mAh).


To add to the above w/ a native 510 connection/adapter to 808/901 would be the JSB Vgo (900mAh), Hello16 (1300mAh). Speaking of the 901 Riva, Liberty Flights was/is having a killer deal on them.

You know, you're the second person to mention Liberty Flight's deal [dmdonald2 was the first].

I've thought about it all day at work and talked to my non-ecig as well as non-analog friends, and basically they asked, "dude, you bought your original water cigarette [that's what they call it, because I exhale water vapor] for thirty bucks, right? And there's one that's a lot better for thirty bucks, right? So, don't eat out like you normally do and just buy the thing before they run out or stop the sale!".

So, I went ahead and ordered a Riva 510 from Liberty Flights. The only thing I'm concerned about is the button going off in my pants pocket at this point. I've already got e-liquid because I refill my kr808 cartomizers, and as far as I can tell the only thing missing from the Riva 510 kit is a button protector. Worst comes to worst, I'll just leave it at home and vape on my Puresmoker Ace at work, which is what i've been doing.

Now, why did I choose a Riva 510, and not a Riva 901? Well, I've already got the kr808 experience, and I saw this video, and I thought to myself, "dude, you really should compare. If the 510 sucks, buy a two dollar adapter and be done with it".

I also noticed that there are a lot of suppliers that offer a big battery 510 e cig, there's lots of different 510 parts, and the 510 and 808 seem to be the 'big dogs', you know, like 'coke vs pepsi', or 'ford vs chevy' type thing. Heck, even Puresmoker offers a Joye eGo now. I could be wrong, but it seems that the kr808 is a 'beginner' e-cig, or one for people who prefer less 'fuss', which is probably why I like mine so much, lol! If I had to compare them, I'd say that the kr808 is similar to a Mac computer; not quite as much stuff out there, but mostly good stuff, and the 510 to a PC; lots and lots and lots of stuff out there, some good, some bad. However, being a vaping n00b, I could totally be off base about this.

So, I wanted to thank everybody who posted. Your opinions and your information were a great help in my decision for a big battery, kr808 compatible e-cig. Once I get my Riva 510, I'll probably post about my experiences with it.

I'll be making a new thread asking questions about 510 parts and components [because there's just so many] soon.

 

[Jewel Ship]

For around 50 buck.. Your best bet would be to go with Liberty-Flights. The RIBA 510 or 901 is a great device. If you for the 510 you can get a 510 to 901/808d1 adapter. Cuz I'm a big fan of 510'attys and cartos.

iBANKAI, I'll be finding out next week whether or not I'm a big fan of 510 components, lol.

 

[Jewel Ship]

Note: this was also posted here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hy-so-many-atomizers-other-510-questions.html

Update: I just received my Riva 510 yesterday, and I'm not sure I cleaned it correctly or maybe I didn't get all the water out or something.

Once I got it, I washed the atomizer under hot water for about 35 seconds, blew out the battery end, blew out the cartridge end for about 20 seconds, hooked the atomizer up to the Riva battery, pushed the button until I got a low orange color then released, blew on the atomizer, and kept doing so until the whole atomizer became a low orange quickly.

Afterwards, I smelled inside the atomizer, and it was similar to an old barbeque pit: that burning crusty stuff smell. So, I waited until the atomizer cooled down, then I washed and dried it again. I did it a third time because I still smelled that weird smell.

I noticed that there was condensation on the walls of the atomizer, but it went to orange in about two seconds, and it was fairly cold yesterday, so I'm not sure if it was just humidity from the air.

I then added 4 drops directly onto the little raised part of the atomizer, waiting a few seconds between each so that the previous drop can 'soak in'.

I filled a cartridge with about 16 drops total, after having to move around the plastic filler a few times, I make sure to line up the cartridge correctly with the oval shaped piece inside the atomizer, and I push the button...

The vapor isn't very warm, barely flavored, and I can hardly see anything I exhale. I suspect I've done something incorrectly, possibly didn't get all the water out, because my kr808 produces more vapor and is warmer.

So far, I've pulled the filler out a little bit more so that when I push the cartridge part in, it touches the raised metal part in the atomizer, thus feeding the atomizer. I've made sure the filler was moist, but not soaked, and I'm getting some vapor, just not very much. I'm using the same liquid I use in my kr808's, so that I can compare vapor production and taste. I've also noticed that when I pulled the cartridge out to adjust the filler, there was condensation on the sides of the cartridge, but I didn't see any on the walls of the atomizer. I've also let each battery charge for 3 hours, and tried again; only difference in results was the 'old barbeque pit' taste gradually went away, and it began to taste like the liquid a little bit more, but not much.

Any ideas?

 

[NuGalicia]

...Liberty Flights lists operating voltage for both the Riva 901 and the eGo as "3.3 - 4.2v", but I'm not sure why they are listing a range of voltages instead of one single number; it may vary by cartomizer/atomizer resistance, but I'm not sure on that.

There are a number of threads on this forum which explain in detail why they're sometimes listed this way. The simplified answer:
those batts hold 4.2v when fully charged and stop working when discharged below 3.3v. Average = 3.7v.

 

[markfm]

See: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html

I've seen specific references (maybe not the above thread) to the Riva actually being a regulated output, at 3.1 - 3.2V, consistent with the standard 510 and eGo.

That is different from the 808, which actually outputs 3.7 - 3.8V.

(I love my G400 "808" with a 2.6 ohm carto -- excellent hit plus long battery life.)

Also, watch out if someone suggests 510 family with LR -- at least some LR sold for 510 series is specifically not OK to use with some 510 family batteries -- too high a current draw. (The mAh of the battery doesn't matter if it cannot safely deliver the mA needed by a given resistance atomizer). I believe the Riva has limits on how low a resistance they recommend using.

Good luck in the search!