New EGO?_e-cigarette 016 Starter Kit

[jiff]

I'm seriously tempted to get one... Next pay day!

The question is... 1300mAh in one battery, or two 650 that pump out 4.2v?

Since it's the same mAh rating for both (just one battery or two), it seems like it would make more sense to get the one with 4.2v... Either way, one set will get you through the day... Plus the maxx has the cone seperate...

Decisions, decisions...

 

[Drozd]

I'm seriously tempted to get one... Next pay day!

The question is... 1300mAh in one battery, or two 650 that pump out 4.2v?

Since it's the same mAh rating for both (just one battery or two), it seems like it would make more sense to get the one with 4.2v... Either way, one set will get you through the day... Plus the maxx has the cone seperate...

Decisions, decisions...

yeah the maxx/trex has the cone seperate...that blue light ring at the bottom edge of the band and a metal button..oh and that claimed 4.2V

 

[smokin n jokin]

*Yaaawwwn* Another big battery with 510 threads. Where are the visionaries? Show me an automatic juice delivery system.

 

[jiff]

*Yaaawwwn* Another big battery with 510 threads. Where are the visionaries? Show me an automatic juice delivery system.

I'm sure it's in the works... but with how popular the eGo has been, can you blame companies for making their own versions? They all see how well joye is doing with their eGo and they think "well, that's the route to go".

If you ask me, one of these companies should widen the battery a tad, thus widening the cone, and using the cone as a juice dispenser... It's already surrounding the atty, after all.

 

[smokin n jokin]

Now that's what I'm talking about.

 

[son et lumiere]

on the absolute maxx 4.2 device I emailed them and they said they would have batteries for sale indivually by the end of the month. I would be real interested to see a video review on this on the vapor production.

 

[WillyB]

Yep, another variation of the Ego/Tornado/Riva/T-Rex.

The hello, is a 1300 mah device, double the 650 mah of the above devices.

Hello 016 E-Cig kit

And who exactly is this 'Hello' company?

 

[Drozd]

And who exactly is this 'Hello' company?

I believe it's Hong Kong Hello Group Co., Ltd at hellosmoke.com

 

[kevbow]

I've been using the tornado for months and just currently bought a Reva. I've been using the LR 306 atty with it and a 306 drip tip that I got from Nhaler. The only downfall was the tip isn't long enough to use with the cone so I had to dremmel the cone down a considerable amount to get it to fit. The one thing I do like about the Reva is it has a better button than the tornado and the battery life is a little longer. Not much, but I get about an hour more use out of it than the tornado. The LR 306 atty is fantastic. Much better than the LR 510 atty I was using on the tornado.

 

[candre23]

oh and that claimed 4.2V

"4.2V" is a bit of a marketing trick. All li-ion cells provide 3.7V, but that's an average. At maximum charge they're at about 4.2V, but that quickly drops down to about 3.8V. They'll then slowly drop down as they're discharged to about 3.5V, at which point they'll start to drop quickly and the protection circuitry will cut them off. Claiming the Trex is a 4.2V device is like claiming a car that gets an average of 28mpg is actually a 35mpg car, because under ideal conditions, that number is technically possible. It's not exactly a lie, but it's not really accurate either.

The ego/tornado/riva/standard 510 batteries all have 3.7V batteries inside them, but there is a simple PWM circuit that drops it down to 3.2V to extend the battery life. Devices like the 016 and Trex simply do away with the PWM circuit.

 

[preben]

LR 306 atty?,,,,,,,,How is the button better on the Reva? I been using the ego with a LR 510 atty from Nhaler. I sanded Nhaler 901/510 drip tip down(put it in a drill and put a knife edge to it as I ran the drill about 30 sec) to get to fit the cone. What is a LR 306 atty. I see them at Nhaler. Will I need a adapter,don't see one. And only a 306 drip tip will fit? Where did you get it, I want one or more. More TH? Need TH.

 

[sanfordf]

LR 306 atty?,,,,,,,,How is the button better on the Reva? I been using the ego with a LR 510 atty from Nhaler. I sanded Nhaler 901/510 drip tip down(put it in a drill and put a knife edge to it as I ran the drill about 30 sec) to get to fit the cone. What is a LR 306 atty. I see them at Nhaler. Will I need a adapter,don't see one. And only a 306 drip tip will fit? Where did you get it, I want one or more. More TH? Need TH.

Off topic.

 

[NebulaBrot]

"4.2V" is a bit of a marketing trick. All li-ion cells provide 3.7V, but that's an average. At maximum charge they're at about 4.2V, but that quickly drops down to about 3.8V. They'll then slowly drop down as they're discharged to about 3.5V, at which point they'll start to drop quickly and the protection circuitry will cut them off. Claiming the Trex is a 4.2V device is like claiming a car that gets an average of 28mpg is actually a 35mpg car, because under ideal conditions, that number is technically possible. It's not exactly a lie, but it's not really accurate either.

The ego/tornado/riva/standard 510 batteries all have 3.7V batteries inside them, but there is a simple PWM circuit that drops it down to 3.2V to extend the battery life. Devices like the 016 and Trex simply do away with the PWM circuit.

Here is the T-Rex (nicer button and circle-around LED but the batt is only 660 mah and it is $20 more than the Hello at madvapes: T-Rex PV but I think this uses regular attys & comes with 2 Batts

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Here is the T-Rex (nicer button and circle-around LED but the batt is only 660 mah and it is $20 more than the Hello at madvapes: T-Rex PV but I think this uses regular attys & comes with 2 Batts

I initially misled myself about the relative price of the Hello 016. Unlike the eGO, Riva, or T-Rex, it comes with only one battery. I don't know what the 016's (or Riva's) true voltage is. If it is the same as the wimpy eGO, the choice becomes higher voltage or higher mAh ... for about the same price.

 

[Sojourner]

For me, I like the extra mah of the Hello 016 (yes, from Bauway). My first day's usage was 24 hours off a full charge. My charger didn't work well, so I had to use my Janty fast charger. It took 3 1/4 hours to charge fully. I bought a second 016 battery. It hits a little harder than my eGo and/or Riva. I don't own a meter but based on the hit, I know it's slightly more. It is like a little mini mod. I use LR 510 atties, regular 510 atties and 510 cartomizers with it. I'm still waiting on the cone/atomizer to ship, so I haven't tried that yet. Personally, I like the feel of this one the best. The size, feel, and finish are perfect for me. Over time if the usage time lessens, it would still be more than worth it for 16 - 20 hours of usage off of one charge. All that in a relatively small package is great. I'm satisfied.

 

[Sojourner]

Oh, forgot to mention that I purchased from madvapes because he had the components available separately. I believe they are out of individual batteries now though. I wanted to try the battery first. I bought one battery and one charger. I didn't know it at the time, but my Janty eGo charger works best with this battery. I just ordered the kit yesterday, so I can rotate 2 batteries and I want to try the cone/atomizers. I thought the sale price on the kit at 49.99 was very reasonable.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Thank you, Sojourner, for your insights and first-hand perceptions! That comparison to the eGO (how hard each hits) is very helpful. [And, yes, that $50 is a very reasonable price, even with just one battery. It's just not the hands-down cost winner that I initially thought.]

Now if we can get a techie to measure and report on the relative voltage of these models, we could make a fully informed decision.

BTW, anyone, is it possible that the Absolute MaxX and the T-Rex are the same device? Is "4.2V" another way of saying "3.5-4.5V"?

 

[ournature]

It would be cool if somebody who own a 016 or maxx or t-rex could check the voltage under load, same way Scottbee did few months ago.
this test would tell if they have a PWM circuit taking the effective voltage down to about 3.2V with a 2.5 Ohm atty resistance.

 

[candre23]

BTW, anyone, is it possible that the Absolute MaxX and the T-Rex are the same device? Is "4.2V" another way of saying "3.5-4.5V"?

Yes and yes. The pictures of the two devices are identical and they are being released at the same time, so they are almost certainly the same device. As I pointed out above, calling one a "4.2V" device just because that's what the battery reads at max charge is a bit disingenuous. It's the same average voltage as all 3.7V mods.

It would be cool if somebody who own a 016 or maxx or t-rex could check the voltage under load, same way Scottbee did few months ago.
this test would tell if they have a PWM circuit taking the effective voltage down to about 3.2V with a 2.5 Ohm atty resistance.

The only wat to determine if there is any active voltage regulation going on (as opposed to passive regulation, i.e. a linear regulator) is to hook it up to an oscilloscope. Unfortunately, not many people have access to one.

However, as all li-ion and LiPo batteries run at a native 3.7V (average), if the mod vapes at 3.7V, then it is a safe assumption that there is no power regulation going on behind the scenes.

 

[WillyB]

Yes and yes. The pictures of the two devices are identical and they are being released at the same time, so they are almost certainly the same device. As I pointed out above, calling one a "4.2V" device just because that's what the battery reads at max charge is a bit disingenuous. It's the same average voltage as all 3.7V mods...

It's not disingenuous. We are talking about comparing devices, not batteries. A fully charged Joye PV reads about 3.95V unloaded. A fully charged M401 reads about 3.1V unloaded. The how or why is unimportant, the fact remains that PV's that read 4.2V right off the charger do in fact provide a higher loaded voltage and more watts.