KR808 good to start with?

[cyanide_black]

@Katmar

I'm new here, so I don't want to cause any trouble or start an argument. I just think that stating an opinion as fact is misleading.

The OP wanted to know if the kr8 was a good starter e-cig. I think it is. So do many others. While it is fair to warn him about the possibility of burning cartos, it is not fair to state as a fact that all kr8s will burn their cartos.

 

[Katmar]

@Katmar

I'm new here, so I don't want to cause any trouble or start an argument. I just think that stating an opinion as fact is misleading.

The OP wanted to know if the kr8 was a good starter e-cig. I think it is. So do many others. While it is fair to warn him about the possibility of burning cartos, it is not fair to state as a fact that all kr8s will burn their cartos.

I never said ALL carts burn. Show me. I put it out there as a good possibility. And I have been vaping for almost 1 year. I love the kr8, but I cannot ignore the burning cart issue. I cannot know which pack or how many carts will burn fast, while filler is wet, inner filler is dry (which you have no way of knowing unless you dissect it). It is a VALID concern. It is also an ACKNOWLEDGED issue from a supplier that is being worked on.

 

[AlexTM]

The "all KR8" was refering to KR8s from all shops, the probem is not limited to one supplier. Could have been phrased better, I agree. Will check if I can still change that.

I may add that I did try the KR8, and I was less than impressed. Easy to use, yes. Less vape, though, and I tried cartos from two different vendors, all gave me a very uncomfortably hot vape. The latter may have been me, of course, but there's still the burned filling problem. And until that is solved, I'm deeply worried.

Particularly since those who maintain it's all user error also state that the user should have noticed a burned taste. (Which many who had burned fillings said was never there, I may add.) But a newbie might miss it if it's there, making it even more potentially dangerous as a first recommendation.

 

[unit40]

I'm a newbie,an in-experienced KR8 operator. Only been vaping them since January. I'm not sure how long I need to vape until I am no longer considered a newbie. I can only get good information from experienced users. From what they seem to be posting, is that in order to properly use a KR8 e-cig, the user must take LONG, SLOW, DRAGS from the device. But other experienced users of the device warn that this may cause the unit to overheat and possibly begin to burn the wicking/filler material, and refer to this as over-vaping the device. There seems to be a tolerance variable regarding the quantity of juice that the cart must contain at all times to avoid "running dry". This hasn't been defined exactly. What I have read from experienced users, is that one must keep the cartomizer consistently topped off. How many dropps of liquid will suffice is variable. Maybe this means a carto must have a minimum of "x number of drops" in reserve at all times. So if the cartos are disposable, and come pre-filled with - lets say 40 drops of liquid- , but the carto needs a reserve of 20 drops of liquid, then you can only vape twenty drops of liquid before tossing the carto. These numbers are speculative but demonstrate the point.

 

[Katmar]

I'm a newbie,an in-experienced KR8 operator. Only been vaping them since January. I'm not sure how long I need to vape until I am no longer considered a newbie. I can only get good information from experienced users. From what they seem to be posting, is that in order to properly use a KR8 e-cig, the user must take LONG, SLOW, DRAGS from the device. But other experienced users of the device warn that this may cause the unit to overheat and possibly begin to burn the wicking/filler material, and refer to this as over-vaping the device. There seems to be a tolerance variable regarding the quantity of juice that the cart must contain at all times to avoid "running dry". This hasn't been defined exactly. What I have read from experienced users, is that one must keep the cartomizer consistently topped off. How many dropps of liquid will suffice is variable. Maybe this means a carto must have a minimum of "x number of drops" in reserve at all times. So if the cartos are disposable, and come pre-filled with - lets say 40 drops of liquid- , but the carto needs a reserve of 20 drops of liquid, then you can only vape twenty drops of liquid before tossing the carto. These numbers are speculative but demonstrate the point.

In which case, you may as well go with a 3 piece that you have much better control of.

 

[unit40]

In which case, you may as well go with a 3 piece that you have much better control of.

Katmar, that is exactly what I have planned to do.

 

[Phreakmac]

Have you really seen all of the complaints? Really? I have a huge pile of burnt carts that were refilled very little, had no burnt taste, but I decided to check them just in care those "complainers" were correct. And almost everyone of those carts were burnt.

I do have to ask where are you getting your carts from?

I have had only one bad cart and thats due to the fact that the heating element got a little too close to the side and caused a hot spot.

90% of my carts are from V4L and i have not had this burning cart problem at all.

 

[Katmar]

I do have to ask where are you getting your carts from?

I have had only one bad cart and thats due to the fact that the heating element got a little too close to the side and caused a hot spot.

90% of my carts are from V4L and i have not had this burning cart problem at all.

They have come from multiple vendors including V4L. Most of the time we do not dissect our carts, because once we do, they have to be tossed. I decided to take them apart when I noticed I was having some problems, and read about the burning carts in a few other threads. This does NOT happen with ALL carts, but it happens way too often than it should.

 

[satoshi]

I bought it, and I'm enjoying it but it's not quite the same experience as smoking in terms of the feeling. I guess you put up with that in exchange for the healthier experience. I don't know if I will stick with this model or switch to another one.

Their FAQ says each cartridge should last for the equivalent of almost 2 packs of cigarettes. I guess that's why the cartridges are sold in groups of 5 so it's almost like a carton.

How accurate is it that a cartridge is the equivalent of 2 packs, in your experience?

 

[Katmar]

I bought it, and I'm enjoying it but it's not quite the same experience as smoking in terms of the feeling. I guess you put up with that in exchange for the healthier experience. I don't know if I will stick with this model or switch to another one.

Their FAQ says each cartridge should last for the equivalent of almost 2 packs of cigarettes. I guess that's why the cartridges are sold in groups of 5 so it's almost like a carton.

How accurate is it that a cartridge is the equivalent of 2 packs, in your experience?

Not even close. maybe 10 cigs, possibly. It varies by how much and how long you vape. But it is NOT the equivalent of 2 packs. You can refill, but I no longer recommend that.

 

[Grimtooth]

Not even close. maybe 10 cigs, possibly. It varies by how much and how long you vape. But it is NOT the equivalent of 2 packs. You can refill, but I no longer recommend that.

Thats really sad considering I have an 808 on order. But I do want to ask, are you saying that the cart will last the "puff" equivalent of 10 analogs, or the nicotine equivalent (yea i know.. depends on the strength of the E-Juice)

If you are telling me I will get 200 puffs out of an 808 cart before refilling, I am actually fine with that, I think. If you mean I will get 40 puffs but the same nic content of 10 cigs then that sucks lol.

I guess I will find out tomorrow when it gets here (or Friday when the bats are all fully charged and my blank carts are filled)

Grim

 

[Drozd]

Thats really sad considering I have an 808 on order. But I do want to ask, are you saying that the cart will last the "puff" equivalent of 10 analogs, or the nicotine equivalent (yea i know.. depends on the strength of the E-Juice)

If you are telling me I will get 200 puffs out of an 808 cart before refilling, I am actually fine with that, I think. If you mean I will get 40 puffs but the same nic content of 10 cigs then that sucks lol.

I guess I will find out tomorrow when it gets here (or Friday when the bats are all fully charged and my blank carts are filled)

Grim

more like "I was a pack a day smoker" and now "I go through 2 cartomizers a day"...
I don't count my puffs and I didn't when I was a smoker.. I vape when the urge hits and continue until satisfied..so I rate it more by the amount consumed in a day

 

[lasttango]

it's a great model to start with... I am only familiar with the V4L packages and flavors...
What is so great about it is the lack of effort you have to put out to make it work for you. The longevity of the carts and batts are great... flavor and vapor is great...

You will soon want a 510, ego or similar model as well... variety is the spice of life right?

 

[lasttango]

The only advantage I have found that my ego has over my Kr808 is a smoother, and fuller vape... the cost of that better vape is more frequent refilling...

My cartos last for 1-3 hours before I need to refill them...
My ego 510 carts lasts 5-10 minutes of steady vaping before I need to top them off...
I don't mind topping off when I am home in my sweatpants etc...
but refilling is a real issue if I am driving or out and about. Even switching these 510 carts is a bit of a pain while out and about...
It is such a pain that I am grateful for my cartomizers...

I think refilling cartos is so simple... it can be as easy as inserting a syringe at an angle through the hole where I vape... no mess whatsoever... you can go out for a night with one extra KR808 battery and an extra cart or so and you are good to go the whole night...

If I took my Ego out with me, I'd only need one batt, but I would not know where I'd put the 10 carts or keep them from leaking in my pocket... I'd likely need a paper towel and a ziplock baggie...

As far as burning cartos... between my lady and I, we have only had that happen once... one time out of 50+

As far as DOA or defective carts... I have only had one that arrived defective... but the freebies that I get with each and every order compensate.

at any rate, why don't you get a cartomizer model and a 3 piece?
If you don't like one, you can always post it for sale/trade...
Chances are, you'll love both.

I am vaping my EGO now...
but I'll put my KR808 in my vest pocket and take it to work with me... vape it in the car etc...

*FYI, I have switched my cart 3 times on my ego this morning in the 30 minutes I have been awake... Great vape! Yummy... but... a little more effort than I'd like.
I am anxious to learn the methods of making these carts last longer with different refilling methods etc... I know some people can get 3-4x what I get out of them.

 

[Pokeygizmo]

the rest of it really comes down to preference and opinion, and how lazy you are about things...the Kr8 DOES idiot proof things for the lazy and simple folk..


Generally speaking, I prefer to be referred to as straight-forward and efficient rather than "lazy and simple" !

 

[Phreakmac]

more like "I was a pack a day smoker" and now "I go through 2 cartomizers a day"...
I don't count my puffs and I didn't when I was a smoker.. I vape when the urge hits and continue until satisfied..so I rate it more by the amount consumed in a day

Same here - pack a day to refilling a cart at least once a day.

 

[keyzygirl]

I hated dripping and having nic liquid on my hands all the time.I now carry 2 Xlongs and 2 cartomizers and Im good all day.Its IS much easier and cleaner.

 

[Katmar]

As long as you are aware of the potential of burning filler material being inhaled, then do as you choose. This can happen without you being aware of it because the outer material will still be wet, while the inner material is burnt and you may be inhaling poly fiber.
Just a heads up that needs put out there.

 

[keyzygirl]

Ive spent over 30 years inhaling 4,000 chemicals,burning leaves and paper.I think this is better.Its just my opinion,I dont vape them dry and it doesnt appear to be an issue for me.

 

[Kelemvor]

so do you feel comfortable leading someone to use them, although you know about them burning the filler ?