Kraken - Need Help Building With Cotton

[xklipx]

I had someone pick up me up a Kraken Clone a few days ago from a B&M store. I spoke with the salesman and told him that I intended to use it on a MVP and asked if they wouldn't mind building a coil on it to make sure it worked before I purchased it. It took him and hour and the end result was pitiful. It worked but the vapor production was abysmal and the throat it was almost unbearable. He used 18mg Bobas Bounty and I have used this juice in the I-clear 30 and it was fine. I was convinced I could do a better job so I took a stab at it going off of a guide I saw on youtube. I went with a single coil instead of the dual that the guy did and at first I thought HAH! ...but after filling the tank and casually vaping off of it I ran into similar issues. I searched around for a solution and thought I found one - too much cotton. So I took it apart...lost about 2-3ml of juice in the process and built another with less cotton. Again, HAH! But here is where I am at now.



It might be hard to see but the cotton is burned badly after less than a day vaping. It looks like its sticking to one side of the coil. The wick is totally saturated but I'm still getting dry hits...or something...not really sure what it is but it tastes terrible.

I have seen some other builds where the wick only goes through one hole but if I wanted to try that with a single coil wouldn't I get a lot of leakage?

Anyone know of a good single coil MVP/Kraken build to try? I would like get to a solid .8 - 1.0 Ohms on cotton build, but I heard SS mesh is best for Genny's.

Any help would be great.

Thanks!

 

[MrPlink]

1st, you really won't get the most out of a genny using a MVP.

You also may want to consider lowering your nic.

Easy solution to more vapor and less TH is increase the airflow.

Steel wick builds are a challenge with a mvp because of shorts. Not impossible though.

My favorite kraken build is actually using a traditional horizontal micro coil and covering the deck with cotton (rayon in my case).

It's the most pocket friendly genny build I have ever had and is just so much easier to deal with than any vert coil build.


P.s.
Bobbas is a know wick clogger and it isn't unreasonable to have rewick cotton daily with it

 

[Scy123]

The wick is totally saturated but I'm still getting dry hits...or something...not really sure what it is but it tastes terrible.

Sounds like you have hotspots. You should test fire it before you put the wick in to make sure your coils glow evenly. It should slightly start to glow from the center of the coil outwards.

Like this


This is a bit extreme but not like this

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

There is a technique involved in vaping with gennies. You need to tilt the tank before you draw in order to ensure that your wick is always completely soaked. I wouldn't use Boba's Bounty in a genny simply because it's too thick to wick properly and keep all the wick well soaked. As for vapor production you need to make sure that the airflow holes are fully open and directly facing your coil. And I agree with MrPlink, if you're gonna use gennies and RDAs you need more power than what the MVP offers.


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[Tamer El-Meehy]

+1 on the hotspots as Scy123 said.


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[DIEHLC]

I was having a hell of a time with my Kraken clone. I ditched the ss mesh after having too many problems so I decided to go cotton. First with the cotton I used cotton balls, I tried so many styles and thicknesses trying to get it to wick right because again I kept getting dry hits.. So I tried cotton yarn instead, that seemed to wick way better, but still found that I had to constantly tilt it all the time to get it to wick right if I kept vaping consistently.

After a bit of research and trial and error I found the perfect set up IMO. Using the cotton yarn wicks, then sliding a bit of cotton ball in between the positive pin and the coil. It substantially helped wicking, and completely freed me from the horrible dry hits. I highly suggest trying this out. It has been a life saver. I can chain vape non stop and no dry hits. Perfect vapor and taste, just works phenomenal for me. And really is very straight forward.

But yes as others have stated the MVP isn't going to be the greatest for it, but I used it on my Itaste V3.0 even and it was vaping pretty well with a 1.5 ohm dual micro coil and this cotton setup.
And also as said hotspots man. Definitely test fire before wicking and tweeze and brush your coils till you get rid of them. They should be quite obvious and easy enough to spot.


Here's a pic of the cotton setup right now.

 

[xklipx]

Thanks for the reply's guys! I actually do have a Nemesis and Helios RDA that works great for dripping so I am good (for now) with that. I made an impulse buy with the Kraken because I was not happy with the Iclear 30 and really wanted a RBA to use with my MVP for my at work vape. I think I will try to just use this with my Nemesis. Any suggestions for a RBA that is suitable for a MVP 2? I was leaning towards a Trifun or Kayfun.

 

[roosterado]

There is a technique involved in vaping with gennies. You need to tilt the tank before you draw in order to ensure that your wick is always completely soaked. I wouldn't use Boba's Bounty in a genny simply because it's too thick to wick properly and keep all the wick well soaked. As for vapor production you need to make sure that the airflow holes are fully open and directly facing your coil. And I agree with MrPlink, if you're gonna use gennies and RDAs you need more power than what the MVP offers.


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I have a Kraken,a dual wick RSST,a single wick RSST modified to use a SS Mesh U Wick and a iHybrid Pure. I use SS Mesh or SS Cable and mesh wicks and about .8 ohm builds. all work great on my Sigeili 20 or 30 watt mods. I rarely set the watts higher then 15 watts. I also use my Gennies on a Dual 26650 VV Beast Box set a around 4 volts. Gennies work great on that also. Personally I have never had to tilt my gennies using 20pg/80vg juice unless the tank is below 1/4 full. I do not use extra sugary juices just tobacco and fruit Flavors .

 

[Scy123]

I have a kraken with ekowool wrapped stainless steel wire rope at .3ohm pumping out 40-50 watts and I can chain vape it till the tank is dry without having a dry hit or needing to tilt or anything special. I get comments sometimes like "it wicks like a funnel"

 

[Tinker Ray]

I have been using the Kraken with a single coil/dual wick setup with great success. The coil is 28ga, 10 wrap on a 7/64 drill form. I use a rolled strip of cotton 3/8 in. wide cut from a single layer of a cotton pad. I did drill out the wick holes slightly to make sure they would not constrict the wicking action. The wicks should touch the bottom of the tank, and be very fluffy. With this setup, I do not have to tilt the atty to get juice to the coil, in fact the wicks will run the tank dry! The most important thing is the density of the wick. Too much cotton and the coil and wick holes will not pass enough juice. I have also found that if there is not enough cotton in the coil, it will also scorch. Check the youtube link for a video tutorial - this is the one that got me started...


How to build a Kraken RTA clone with dual wicks, single Tiger coil setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IArzNJXSrGA

 

[hogheadv]

Looking at your pictures op it looks like your cotton that is going through the coil is not fluffy enough. If the cotton is not in contact with the entire coil the coil will glow red hot and give a dry hit. Try firing it with the cap off and see if any of your coil turns red hot. If so you need to get the cotton to make contact with that part of the coil.

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

My experience with mesh+silica has not been very positive with my genny. That's why I switched to cotton. I'm not a genny expert really. But I found myself having to tilt the mod to take decent pulls. But I guess I can use some advice


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[xklipx]

I have been using the Kraken with a single coil/dual wick setup with great success. The coil is 28ga, 10 wrap on a 7/64 drill form. I use a rolled strip of cotton 3/8 in. wide cut from a single layer of a cotton pad. I did drill out the wick holes slightly to make sure they would not constrict the wicking action. The wicks should touch the bottom of the tank, and be very fluffy. With this setup, I do not have to tilt the atty to get juice to the coil, in fact the wicks will run the tank dry! The most important thing is the density of the wick. Too much cotton and the coil and wick holes will not pass enough juice. I have also found that if there is not enough cotton in the coil, it will also scorch. Check the youtube link for a video tutorial - this is the one that got me started...


How to build a Kraken RTA clone with dual wicks, single Tiger coil setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IArzNJXSrGA

that is the one I did except I set the coil vertically instead of horizontal. Im going to continue to tinker with this on my Nemesis, I think I'll pass on trying to make this work on an MVP. I'll report back later today or tomorrow with results.