L-Rider Lava 1.5 Version that reads Resistance

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Anybody else seen these posted anywhere else? $85 seems pretty reasonable, but figure a little price comparison is never a bad thing... Not to mention some places give longer warranties... (apollo gives a year!)
I still haven't seen them anywhere else yet. I hear you on the guarantee. It was important to me with the first one because I didn't know how they would hold up but I'm a little more confident buying one without a year guarantee now being as mine have worked so well.

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I might have to get me an inline voltage indicator just to prove to the Provari users that are continually dissing the LT. It is like many of them want to justify spending 200.00 by tearing down the L-Rider. I for one never bought a Provari because of all the button pushing to change voltages or check the resistance. The L-Rider is much better in that regard and now that you can read resistance of the carto so easily it is a nobrainer for me to stick with it especially when you can buy three for the price of one. I think the version 2 is going to be better yet. I really like the type of connection it has with the recessed ego connector and flexible battery post. It will make it much better for using different cartos that have slightly different length posts.
I believe that I just read somewhere that the 1.5 is pulse width modulated, so an inline voltmeter won't read.

What exactly is the process for checking the resistance? What combination of buttons?

And I do think that there are a ridiculous number of over the top fans of certain devices. It blows my mind how some of them can sound so ridiculous and have no clue about it. As a general rule, however, I let it all go unless someone says something that's obviously false.
 

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I believe that I just read somewhere that the 1.5 is pulse width modulated, so an inline voltmeter won't read.

What exactly is the process for checking the resistance? What combination of buttons?
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And I do think that there are a ridiculous number of over the top fans of certain devices. It blows my mind how some of them can sound so ridiculous and have no clue about it. As a general rule, however, I let it all go unless someone says something that's obviously false.

haven't heard that you couldn't read it with an inline meter. If you run across that thread again let me know. Someone on another thread was testing them and i thought he was using an inline but I guess I just presumed it.
You just press the power button once and it displays the ohms for a couple of seconds then the voltage you have it set at comes on for a couple of sec.
 

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That one still has the 2.5a limit though..the one with the higher limit probably won't be here until the end of May...



Actaully the one with the higher amp limit (3.2amp) will be here this week tumbleweed. YES SIR...THIS WEEK, around wed-friday maybe at the latest. And yes a U.S. vendor. I will keep you posted if you like ...??......
 

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I don't have an inline voltage indicator and that is what I would need to check them with carto on it. That is the only way I know of to check them under load. Madvapes has them for 14.99 but I'm not really that curious about knowing that information. I just care if it vapes good and continues to throughout the charge. I do like being able to check the ohms of the carto. There is a member that is running tests on them that I saw on another thread. He said they were testing much better at holding the voltage at higher voltages than the version 1. I never had any problem with version 1 at the voltages I vape at with the cartos I use. I don't like anything above 4.5 volts and the V1 was real good at that voltage and below.
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Unfortunately you cant use the madvapes inline volt meter to check these new LT's. I think they have some sort of a pulse circuit or something that has the same affect so the display will just flash with no numbers much like a PWM . I tried it and all I get is flashing 0's and 8's. You have to have a little bit different and more advanced equipment. I didn't use the madvapes meter for my tests,although I do have 1. Just letting you know so you dont spend the money on 1 hoping for results with this mod,now other mods without PWM it will do just fine for good round numbers but not for the more in depth detail numbers I look for a want. Hope this helps a few people somehow.....take care everyone.
 
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Unfortunately you cant use the madvapes inline volt meter to check these new LT's. They have a PWM circuit so the display will just flash with no numbers. You have to have a little bit different and more advanced equipment. I didn't use the madvapes meter for my tests,although I do have 1. Just letting you know so you dont spend the money on 1 hoping for results with this mod,now other mods without PWM it will do just fine for good round numbers but not for the more in depth detail numbers I look for a want. Hope this helps a few people somehow.....take care everyone.

Yeah those meters are really only designed for testing batteries anyways..I guess MadVapes is looking for a way around the meters shortcomings or another meter..there probably is a way but it might not be cheap enough to do..I have looked for other voltage displays myself and am surprised there isn't more out there. I tried searching for a small inexpensive digital multimeter I could rip apart (to put in an inline tester) too but nothing is small enough...
 

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Unfortunately you cant use the madvapes inline volt meter to check these new LT's. They have a PWM circuit so the display will just flash with no numbers. You have to have a little bit different and more advanced equipment. I didn't use the madvapes meter for my tests,although I do have 1. Just letting you know so you dont spend the money on 1 hoping for results with this mod,now other mods without PWM it will do just fine for good round numbers but not for the more in depth detail numbers I look for a want. Hope this helps a few people somehow.....take care everyone.

Thanks you saved me some money. It is a good thing Madvapes was out of stock or I would have bought one.
 

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Actaully the one with the higher amp limit (3.2amp) will be here this week tumbleweed. YES SIR...THIS WEEK, around wed-friday maybe at the latest. And yes a U.S. vendor. I will keep you posted if you like ...??......

I already have one I bought from Penny last week. My next one will be the L-rider Lambo. It is the same as the 1.5 only with the cool recessed ego threads with new flex post and is chrome.
 

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I already have one I bought from Penny last week. My next one will be the L-rider Lambo. It is the same as the 1.5 only with the cool recessed ego threads with new flex post and is chrome.


Since I started vaping almost 2 years ago now, I've been waiting for a company to put a spring loaded positive center pole in a ecig or mod or anything. I honestly cant believe it's just now being done....and by this company before the bigger names in ecigs. This concept and feature will bring a huge resolution to a constant on going headache when switching the same carto or atty from 1 PV to another that have the deeper wells and thread walls. Who else agrees ???
 

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Where are you guys getting the info that the 1.5's are using PWM? I don't think thats correct with a single battery. They've got to be using a boost. The Vmax is using stacked batteries and probably PWM but I highly doubt the 1.5 LT is. I'm thinking somebody misremembered which mod they were reading about.
 

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Where are you guys getting the info that the 1.5's are using PWM? I don't think thats correct with a single battery. They've got to be using a boost. The Vmax is using stacked batteries and probably PWM but I highly doubt the 1.5 LT is. I'm thinking somebody misremembered which mod they were reading about.


That was meant as a preliminary test assumtion as a inline voltage meter acts as if their is some sort of PWM type circuit inside because the inline meter will not read the voltage load, or underload. Now that I've had more than a day with it,yes it is boosted but Im taking apart the 2nd tomorrow to see why the inline meters wont read the voltage. Sorry for the mixup. This is a twin type chipset with 2 internal boards.
 

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@txtumbleweed. Congrats on your new mod. The 3 amp limit would be handy for me using dual coil cartos at times. BTW I'm just across the border in the Hermiston area.

@VAPNJ350. Having to fool around with center posts is a PITA!

Hey neighbor good to have someone in the neighborhood. I lived in Hermiston for a couple of years before I moved here about six years ago. There is another member from Pasco too. Yep I'm looking forward to the new type connection on the L-Rider Lambo. Thanks for saying hey!
 
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Hey neighbor good to have someone in the neighborhood. I lived in Hermiston for a couple of years before I moved here about six years ago. There is another member from Pasco too. Yep I'm looking forward to the new type connection on the L-Rider Lambo. Thanks for saying hey!

The gal I converted over in Finley makes four of us. Dig up a few more people and we could have a vape meet, LOL! Sure are some LT haters here on the forum. Mine works OK but I need to get away from dual coils on it. Pics of some of my equipment. The "Flip" is the big one that came just a couple days ago.


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Hmm, sounds strange. Maybe there are two chips, one boosts to 6v and the other PWM's it down to user setting. Seems an odd way to go about it, but maybe there is more to it than I realize. I'd think having both would cost more but maybe not. A set boost would be cheaper than a variable and a regulator that did 50%-100% might be cheaper than a 0-100%. Hard telling what the Chinese will come up with next. Maybe the extra amperage came from the static boost? All speculation on my part, just trying to think why the meters won't read the 1.5 versions. I'll be watching to see what you come up with. Just got my 1.0 about a week or so ago but I'm thinking of getting a 1.5 kit already.
 

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Hmm, sounds strange. Maybe there are two chips, one boosts to 6v and the other PWM's it down to user setting. Seems an odd way to go about it, but maybe there is more to it than I realize. I'd think having both would cost more but maybe not. A set boost would be cheaper than a variable and a regulator that did 50%-100% might be cheaper than a 0-100%. Hard telling what the Chinese will come up with next. Maybe the extra amperage came from the static boost? All speculation on my part, just trying to think why the meters won't read the 1.5 versions. I'll be watching to see what you come up with. Just got my 1.0 about a week or so ago but I'm thinking of getting a 1.5 kit already.


I will say,after having the V1.5 now for a few days, next to my V1 , their is a significant difference betwwen the 2 with Dual Coils on them. The V1.5 actually pushes a DC very well. And the higher ohm cartos,3.0, 3.2, 4.0, 4.5 ohm etc.... The LT V1.5 does EXCELLENT !!! If only this one was the 1st platform they would have had a much better overall appreciation. Now the V1 did serve its purpose with standard resistance cartos/attys. I vape a 3.0 & 3.2 ohm Boge fusion carto in the 4.3 to 4.7 range depending on my juice, and for that setup the V1 was flawless in my eyes,it would handle those ohms very well with minimal loss of voltage up to around 4.8-5.0 volts. But put anything lower ohms than that,and the performance loss was noticeable and inevitable. But this V1.5 with 3.2 amps, not too bad at all for the price point. All Im using on it since I got it is a 1.5 ohm DC at 5 volts.......very nice.
 

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The gal I converted over in Finley makes four of us. Dig up a few more people and we could have a vape meet, LOL! Sure are some LT haters here on the forum. Mine works OK but I need to get away from dual coils on it. Pics of some of my equipment. The "Flip" is the big one that came just a couple days ago.


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Sounds good maybe we can all get together and show off our stuff. I've never met another vaper in person so it would be kind of cool. They are planning a vapemeet in Seattle area that I will probably go to when they set it up. The Flip is cool first time I've seen one.
 
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