... and Psilocybin (found in magic mushrooms) have been shown to have strong therapeutic potential in the treatment of addictions and mental health issues. In the 60s when they were legal, they were shown to be effective in treating both alcoholism, depression, and anti-social behavior (up to 60% decrease in recividism for inmates) while a study carried out on theology students with psilocybin resulted in most of them describing the experience has highly spiritual with half saying it was the most spiritual event in their lives. Not only this, but they're less toxic than practically every food and drug out there while they were banned for cultural rather than medical reasons by the Federal government in the late 60s. Your views?
Legalization of Psilocybin and ... - Your opinions?
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Prohibition has never worked and never will. This is a perfect example of the US government's power/money hungry agenda. Just like with ecigs, if you can't make money off of it, get rid of it.
"If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on."
-Terence McKenna
"If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on."
-Terence McKenna
That's not necessarily true. Prohibition only fails when the target is a drug that a large percentage of the population uses. Alcohol and marijuana being the primary examples. But it works fine when it comes to drugs that are marginal. ... prohibition hasn't caused society any great ills. Prisons aren't filled with ... users. The government isn't spending billions to contain ....
In an ideal world all drugs would be legal. This is not an ideal world. ... should be legalized for therapeutic purposes but it should remain illegal for recreational use.
I don't think it would be a good idea to legalize it. I have tried both, yes, I know the positives and negatives. I think if ANYTHING were to come through like that, use would be restricted to a designated area or SOMETHING along those lines, but even then, you get someone with a weak constitution or dormant mental issue on acid, and you have an instant BIG problem on your hands that affects the safety of others.
Yeah, I've probably done more dose than practically everyone here combined but I'd never advocate legalizing it. The hallucinogenic class of drugs impair judgment too badly to be used casually.
I've got a quite a bit of experience with Acid and Shrooms from a few years back....I agree with these statements
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I think the argument that it does not work refers to making it go away or no one doing it anymore that qualifies as "working" - It has not worked - It is still available and still done - Most problems that arise from ... are due to the nature of underground labs that use questionable components - Leagalizing it would make it pure (like e-juice regs) - That said there are some poeople that should not mess with it - Those that think they can fly and then jump off a building to prove it - Well - Do we really need them anyway?
- I mean if you can fly - You should be able to take off from level ground - No? - Same can be said of anything though - Some people should not drink alcohol either - As far as mushrooms go - They really don't enforce that much at all - When was the last time you heard of someone getting busted for mushrooms unless it also involved other things? - It is not illegal to grow or posses them - Only to eat or sell them - So not much chance for a bust anyway - And there is no field sobriety test for them either - Most people do not do them in public - So on the shroom issue - It really is no big deal legal or not -
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Casually =/= Irresponsibly
Deferring personal responsibilities should be illegal -
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Casually =/= Irresponsibly
Deferring personal responsibilities should be illegal -
I really couldn't care less what they do to themselves, BUT It's been my experience, that the victims of negligent hallucinogen use have not always been the user, but the unsuspecting bystander. THATS were the problem lies in my opinion. I've personally been to the point where I wasn't sure if I was going to "Come back" and in that state I couldn't tell what was real or not because I lost the ability to tell myself it was just "the drug". I call that the "Broken record stage", where visuals and scenarios keep repeating themselves over and over in your mind. At that point, it's way past recreational ie: laughing, forgetting you're smoking a cigarette and lighting another, sharpening butter knives, purple stones in the asphalt, etc.
Yea - But - The question is about legalizing - Not about the effects of taking it - It has been illegal for some time now - Yet it has NOT gone away - If it were made legal tomorrow that would not mean you can get it at Wal-Mart - Nor would it mean that everyone would start to do it - Making something illegal does not make it go away - It only makes ppl hide it and go to jail if caught - Was is legal when you did it? - Once again - I give you ALCOHOL -
Look how many innocents die from that EVERYDAY -
Look how many innocents die from that EVERYDAY -
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You're right, I digressed a bit there. What stipulations in your opinion would be attached to it being legal, if you were the head govt. drug-czar? Did you ever see that old movie about Psilosybin studies called, "Altered States"? GREAT movie!
I would not really change anything about it - Just stop putting people in jail over it - It is currently a manslaughter charge for producing and selling it - If that were gone then it could be made properly in a lab and not in the "bathtub" - Reducing the risk of questionable substances like arsenic that many put in it now to make up for the lack of lab skills - Not saying to sell it and tax it officially - - Just don't equate it with murder - Personally I much prefer the shrooms anyway - much more spiritual and you don't get that loss of control you mentioned nearly as much -
Though legalize and tax SHOULD be done with weed - There's your health care money right there - and then some - CHA CHING -
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So I guess the consensus is that they shouldn't be legalized because most people can't handle it - but if it were legal for medicinal use proper applications of it could be researched more intensely. I'm sure that there's the right dosage where people will obtain the health benefits without the risks of trying to fly off buildings
Don't know if there is consensus or not - I think decriminalize may be a better way of putting it - To say keep it illegal is like saying it does not currently exist - It has not been legal for a very long time now - Yet it obviously still exists - I think that's the foolishness of making something like that illegal - Thinking that means it's gone -
Microdot, blotter, windowpane... they all pale in comparison to pure liquid acid. Drop it right in your eye and hit the trip in a matter of minutes.
College. Those were the days!
My opinion, it should all be legal. There should be controls over production and sales, and of course, it should be taxed. Just like alcohol, there should be laws about driving and such while on these drugs.
But at the very, very least, like Bones says, it shoud be decriminalized. The war against drugs in done and lost for good.
Gah, what a stupid world we live in.
But at the very, very least, like Bones says, it shoud be decriminalized. The war against drugs in done and lost for good.
Gah, what a stupid world we live in.
Legal? Sure, why not. Maybe then back in 1972, I need not tripped and freaked out at a Sly and the Family Stone concert in Mobile Alabama, when my drink was spiked with windowpane.
Make a long story short, a group called Wet Willy was the opener that night. Well, once I started to hallucinate that there were the three little pigs on stage, and that the auditorium I was in was actually a flying saucer, plus losing my bladder control, it wasn't until three days later that I realized what I had just experienced.
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Make a long story short, a group called Wet Willy was the opener that night. Well, once I started to hallucinate that there were the three little pigs on stage, and that the auditorium I was in was actually a flying saucer, plus losing my bladder control, it wasn't until three days later that I realized what I had just experienced.
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