Less nicotine from vaping?

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daviedog

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Plastics in vapor? Anyway, lungs passages are big enough for any molecule (for as long as it not a big polymer chain, but nobody would vape polymers)
There are No" large molecules", your quote.
I wasn't suggesting vaping plastic.
I still contend Vapor is larger than particulate smoke.
Why would smoke ( recorded on an enceplagram) hit the brain in 10 seconds.
Vapers meanwhile not Wired reported effects in 3 to 5 minutes?
You're welcome to take my post out of context, did you.even read Roly gates Blog?..
 

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There are No" large molecules", your quote.
You got me. But it's out of context either. I was talking about molecules in vapor.
I wasn't suggesting vaping plastic.
I still contend Vapor is larger than particulate smoke.
Not really. Different papers give different numbers - both smaller and larger. But it does not matter anyway.
Why would smoke ( recorded on an enceplagram) hit the brain in 10 seconds. Vapers meanwhile not Wired reported effects in 3 to 5 minutes?
I would like to see the same measurements for subohmers. But even with old style vaping, as was shown by Dr. Farsalinos, vaper will reach the same heights, it'll just takes longer.
You're welcome to take my post out of context, did you.even read Roly gates Blog?..
Yes, I did. He is wrong.
 

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You got me. But it's out of context either. I was talking about molecules in vapor. Not really. Different papers give different numbers - both smaller and larger. But it does not matter anyway. I would like to see the same measurements for subohmers. But even with old style vaping, as was shown by Dr. Farsalinos, vaper will reach the same heights, it'll just takes longer.
Yes, I did. He is wrong.
I can see we aren't going to convince each. Was a nice joust though. Have a nice night. Oh, do they have night in your "sector" of the cosmos?..
 

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I was given some misinformation from a state agency (who told me there was one mg. of nicotine in a Marlboro Red) and as a result have been laboring under the impression that I was getting way more nicotine from vaping than I had been from smoking. Now, I read that there is 12 mg. of nicotine in a Marlboro, and that you absorb about one mg. from smoking one.

This brought to mind a few questions. I was a two pack-a-day smoker and I use the 24 mg. e-juice. Turns out a milliliter of my juice is equal to about two cigarettes. There is no way I use a milliliter an hour. I use a Nebox set to 20 watts with Kanthal A-1 coils in the RBA, and a Cupti with SS coils set on 400-450 watts, depending on my mood. If I am going through approx. 5 milliliters of juice a day that is only half a pack of cigarettes. In addition, from what I've read, you absorb more nicotine from cigarettes because of the particulates which adhere to the inside of your lungs.

Also, from what I've read, there are other addictive chemicals in cigarettes. I thought this was why I crave cigarettes so much, but now I'm thinking, well, if I vape 5 ml. a day, I'm getting way less nicotine. Add to this the recent change in my preferred e-juice site, MBV, such that they are no longer offering 24 mg. nicotine e-juice, and I am wondering if I should go DIY for my juices so that I can up the nicotine levels.

Any thought? TIA for your replies!

It's not as simple as that... you can't go by nicotine alone.

Cigarettes are a highly complex chemical contraption. The more I read into cigarettes and nicotine, the more I learned what was truly going on. Cigarettes also contain tar, and other chemicals which react with the nicotine to change it's behavior. There are other alkaloids involved which you become addicted and alter the behavior of nicotine where it doesn't quite react the same as taking just straight nicotine. One easily rememberable thing, is ammonia, which slows down the decay of nicotine, so it stays in your body longer. They don't add ammonia to the tobacco, but it's in the paper used as a binder. So, when you smoke a cigarette, it stays in your system longer than vaping. There have been numerous studies showing that there is more to smoking than just nicotine, and that nicotine is not as addictive as they thought.

As far as how much nicotine you should take? I wouldn't sweat the nicotine levels. I started off with 18mg/ml from a pack per day habit, and worked down to my current 6mg/ml. The main part, is getting off the stinkies first... by any means necessary. IF you vape a lot at first, that is fine. The higher Nicotine helps a bit especially when first quitting, but after that, it's easy to go down. You will vape more often than you smoked, since the nicotine from vaping doesn't stay in your body as long as a cigarette, so keep that in mind. Vaping definitely helps with quitting, since it mimics the inhale and the eye hand addictive properties of smoking....which is why patches aren't as successful. So get the highest you can get, and vape until you feel comfortable... even if it means vaping a lot of a lower nic juice.

that's just my :2c:
 
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