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Baditude

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Be aware of Safe Battery Habits and practice those habits at all times.



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Long story short, a long time ago I had made a habit of storing my mechanical mods in a pants pocket at work, and hanging those pants in my locker. The firing button of one of those mods is rather pronounced, and there is no safety shut-off switch as some mods have. So within the tight quarters of this pocket the pronounced fire button became compressed continuously against the other mod.

This allowed the battery to rapidly discharge at an unsafe rate, resulting in battery failure and it went into thermal runaway. This caused the pants pocket to become badly scorched, totally destroying the battery and the power switch on the mod (where the hot gases vented as designed). This could have started a fire in the locker had I not found the situation when I did.

This was a protected Li Ion battery, and one that was recommended at the time for this mod. The built-in protection circuit in the battery had failed, allowing the battery to fail. Today, conventional wisdom by battery experts is that protected Li Ion batteries should not be used in favor of safe chemistry IMR batteries.

NCR/ICR Li Ion batteries that go into thermal runaway vent flames and extremely hot gas. IMR safe chemisty batteries may go into thermal runaway but are less likely to, and if they do they generally do so less dramatically or violently and without flames.

  • In hindsight, Safe Battery Habits should have been used when storing a mod within the restricted small space such as a pants pocket.

  • Although this mod doesn't have it, mods that have an on/off safety feature for the power button should take advantage of that function when they are not in use to prevent accidental firing.

  • The battery or the juice attachment should have been removed from the mod to prevent any electrical circuit with the battery, and the battery stored safely in a plastic battery case.

  • All spare batteries should be stored in a plastic battery case if carried in a purse or pocket to keep them out of contact with coins, keys, or other metalic material.

 
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Lessons Learned: Don't over tighten clearomzers or overfill them. Keep lot's of q-tips handy as well as paper towels. Don't leave home without a back-up battery or e-juice. When cleaning multiple clearomizers try and keep all parts with same piece, some don't fit properly otherwise. I always turn my batteries off before charging. Always put the lid on any liquid as soon as I'm finished with it during mixing of DIY e-juice, cuz' you will have an accident and I have cats. I do alot of research prior to ordering and it helps in getting the best price. Don't double post in ECF it seems to aggravate people. If you have old batteries because you've moved on to bigger and newer one's pass those on to a newcomer, pay it foward! :D
 

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Be aware of Safe Battery Habits and practice those habits at all times.

Baditude, your advice couldn't have come at a better time. I've just started using vv/vw devices and don't know all that much about batteries, although I've been reading a lot. Nothing I've read mentioned anything about thermal runaway or a vape safe mod fuse.

I'm sorry for your experience, but trust that it will help me (and probably lots of others) avoid a similar one.

Thank you!!!
 

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bam2873 said:
Baditude, your advice couldn't have come at a better time. I've just started using vv/vw devices and don't know all that much about batteries, although I've been reading a lot. Nothing I've read mentioned anything about thermal runaway or a vape safe mod fuse.

I'm sorry for your experience, but trust that it will help me (and probably lots of others) avoid a similar one.


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected Batteries?

Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide

http://www.thevapesafe.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=163

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I'm still a new vaper, but the most surprising lesson I learned is that you should not go into buying juices with proconceived notions of what you think you'll like.

My first purchase I bought almost entirely bitter/dark flavors because I thought I would dislike the fruity/sweet flavors. It turns out my least favorite flavors were generally the coffee/chocolate ones (I expected them to be my favorites) and some of my favorite flavors are fruity, especially a banana juice I tried (I normally dislike bananas and banana flavors).
 

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HAVE FUN!!!!!! This shouldn't be a chore like "Awwww MAN! I have to run to the store for a pack of cigs". This is "Hummm should I try the caramel vanilla cappuccino, the cherry tabaco, the fuzzy navel, or the cotton candy tonight?".

Screamin, I am having a ball!!! NEVER thought that would happen!
 

XeniaMike

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1. Most of my favorite juices I discovered from other vapers that have already tried it and even let me try it. Much better than blind ordering.

2. I'll 2nd the 'go for something decent' and skip cigalikes, etc

3. Get quality batteries (and charger), even if they're a few $ more.

4. Watch PBusardo vids

5. Save big orders for next to holidays - most juice vendors have sales and coupon codes

There's lots more but I'll not bore you. Happy Vaping!
 

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Also if there are good B&Ms in your area (check Yelp reviews), asking someone face to face any vaping related questions you have, helps a lot.

I would second this bit of advice and add that trying juice flavors at a B & M to find out what you like will save you a ton of cash!

Best of luck!!!
 

Fulgurant

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Lesson #1 is research before purchase

Lesson #2 research more before purchase.

Lesson #2.5 is not to paralyze yourself with analysis. Learn enough to order something reliable and effective and then get started. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, in other words; you're never going to learn everything there is to learn without trying things out for yourself.

And the sooner you quit (or dramatically cut down on) smoking, the better.

Sure, you might end up buying something better later, but you can get started without breaking the bank. And given the cost of cigarettes these days, chances are you'll have a hard time spending more than you're used to spending over the long term.
 

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Lesson #1 is research before purchase
I'm really glad I have, so far. Rules 1&2 "research before purchase" is right on. But I also think 2.5 is right, too: "[do not] paralyze yourself with analysis.... Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

Biggest lesson: Open a separate bank account/credit card that the significant other does not know about
Right now I'm preferring vaping to an SO. True confessions.

Read Read Read
And watch videos! I've really enjoyed PBusardo, GrimmGreen, and RiP Trippers especially.
 
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