Lets Get This Straight!

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bleachboy

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Well, I mean, is it "healthy" like jogging or a high-fiber diet? No.

I do know that I heard Dr. Drew on his podcast saying that he would ABSOLUTELY recommend vaping, or chewing nicotine gum, or wearing patches, or doing ANYTHING to get a patient away from cigarettes. (EDIT: And in context, what he meant was.. vaping/chewing gum/wearing patches for the rest of life, not just as a temporary crutch to help quit).

And like other posters have said -- I'm over 40, been smoking for 25+ years. I can guarantee vaping has had a positive effect on my well-being. Ask my wife about the middle-of-the-night coughing fits I usedto have. :p
 

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And while you're at it, please don't eat any foods with additives. Unfortunately, you just eliminated over 99% of the Standard American Diet. Add to this the pesticides, GMO's, and herbicides in our foods grown in nutrient deficient soils.....well, you get the picture. So, why pick on vaping?

Bill,

You need to stop confusing the younguns with facts. :ohmy: It just ain't fair. Critical thinking is attained through age and effort. Many age but few put out the effort.

This OP really had a point and, even though it was not all that valid as stated, he was concerned. I wonder if he vapes? And if so, why?

I think it is true that certain food additives have been banned over the years. Don't know if they are flavorings or colors, but I seem to remember lots of controversy from time to time. Now it is artificial sweeteners. Years ago, it was MSG. Still used but has deleterious effects for many (I for one cannot use it). Mom used to use MSG to flavor vegetables. :ohmy: again! I survived. But then I lived VERY dangerously...I rode my bicycle without head, knee and elbow protection. The same for my skateboard. I drank water from the garden hose. I sat around campfires and ate burnt marshmallows and charred cow. I still enjoy charred cow and pig and chicken. A lot. (medium rare for the cow, please). I rode my motorcycle without a helmet (unless it was raining). I think helmets are good, just didn't like them. When I crashed and burned, my arm and leg got it. My head was just fine. How the heck did I survive all my not healthy and safe activities??????

One day I will die. I hope I will die of something other than gasping for one breathe after another. I am afraid of dying of lung cancer or COPD. Or drowning. I hope to die from a gunshot delivered by a jealous wife when I am about 100 years old.
 

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One day I will die. I hope I will die of something other than gasping for one breathe after another. I am afraid of dying of lung cancer or COPD. Or drowning. I hope to die from a gunshot delivered by a jealous wife when I am about 100 years old.

I'd prefer to go peacefully in my sleep, just like my Grandfather did. Not screaming like the passengers in his car.
 

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TEA CUP generation in action. We are all adults here(some more than others). Vaping IS healthier than smoking and that's the bottom line. I don't think anyone is prescribing the inhalation of 2 mils of freckled lemonade every time you run a mile. So at this point your splitting hairs in the name of controversy. Congrats your post solicited a lot of response from passionate vapers. Now vape on or shove off. JMHO!
 

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The other point I want to raise is the issue of health and safety. Almost every American does things in their life every single day that are not totally safe. It is not safe to drive a car, cook a meal, take a shower, etc. Safety and healthy are relative terms, and the reason that so many responses to your post include concepts like, "What's your point?" and "Compared to what?" and "So what." Vaping is an amazingly safe activity compared to smoking, and many other daily activities. I know of not a single death attributed to vaping. What else can a human do that can make a similar claim? The fact is nothing is safe, the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat, electromagnetic pollution, etc. There's nothing wrong with your point whatsoever, as long as the proper perspective is applied to it. Is vaping safe compared to Chantix, for example. Not a single suicide yet from vaping. Chantix suicides in the thousands. So, vaping is a very safe activity compared with, well, just about everything else a human can do. Is it safe? No. Is anything safe? No.

Yes. This. Right here.

In fact, you should see the drivers around here. I suspect smoking might be safer than getting out on the highways here (hyperbole, yes, by much, I dunno).

It's about balancing risks. Smoking is high risk. Vaping is low risk. Not "zero risk", low risk. Especially compared to what it replaces.

And there is so freaking much risk in life that is hard or impossible to control anyway. Despite having not (at that point) having been able to quit smoking, in the early 2000s, I was as much "health nut" as a smoker can be. Ate right, exercise, the works. Had cut back quite a bit on smoking and was thinking seriously of making another quit attempt.

But, see, I was living in New Orleans. You may have heard that 2005 was an exceptionally exciting year for that city.

No amount of "healthy living" stopped Katrina (nor Rita for that matter). I dunno. Life is risk. You try to balance them best you can but you can't control them all...
 

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I completely agree with you and thank you for correcting me. I realize this was somewhat a moronic post on my part, as many members of this forum are aware there could be potential risks.
I see a lot of vapers thought that seem to think there is no risk to vaping. I dont know how or why they have that idea.
Im sorry if anyone mistook the thread as it was simply in support for extensive research in the effects of the vapor we inhale (or dont inhale).
Yes, vaping is safer than cigarettes. Yes, I will recommend vaping to anyone looking to quit. But I will also be honest with them that the jury is still out on the long term effects.
 

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Yes, vaping is safer than cigarettes. Yes, I will recommend vaping to anyone looking to quit. But I will also be honest with them that the jury is still out on the long term effects.

I think as we Currently understand Vaping, that this is True.

I also think that Inclusion of the Last Line in what you said is what a Responsible person should say.

BTW - I didn't think your Posts were Moronic. Perhaps the Wording could have been a Tad Better. But not Moronic.

:)
 
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